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they definately show "an influence" all right. i'm just not sure that it doesn't come from something "less animate" than another person...
     
     
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I realize your post is a few days old Cold, but I received an email response to my request for any possible rendering updates from HIP today and he stated that their drawings are complete and construction could start on fairly short notice from the owner.

Oh, and they sent me this. No change though.

Is it April the 1st in Edmonton? I'm not laughing.

EDIT: No really. Are you joking? Likely the worst financial crisis in history and something like THAT can still get financed and built?

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I have to side with Jaspers depiction of suburbia and the complainers. Albeit somewhat eccentric in his words, I do get what he is saying - and it's a sentiment alot of us have had over the years. I think we all know he was being eccentric, no?

I believe that SOME people who live in the suburbs believe that they are living in the country, and expect the same level of noise. Well it's the city. And choosing to live in the city should encompass a tolerance for noise. With suburbia comes densification - over time. Once not too long ago, Glenora could have been called suburbia. Rows of houses in a planned community encompassing not much but... houses. Now, we consider it vital to the image of our city; perhaps these new communities can become part of the big city too; one day - but they have alot of transformation to go through, and that maturation includes the migration of traffic and movement of people and goods through their streets and nearby. The same people that build a new house have to deal with the maturation of their neighborhoods by living basically in a mud pit for 2 or 3 years.

Now, this is tongue in cheek because I honestly have not heard how bad it is... but myself, living in a city, on a busy street, with a firestation nearby and train tracks (that do rattle pictures on the walls) running 2 blocks behind me... I have no problem with the noise; and accept it as just part of living amongst 1,000,000 people.

It's also not very difficult to plant some trees as a fence line for god sakes. Or is this "not allowed" in the controlled suburban environment?
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Holy 🞵🞵🞵🞵 man! Why is everybody who doesn't live in the centre villified? Do you have any idea what a new house in the centre costs? There's a reason people move to the suburbs and it's not because they like the commute. It's a matter of cost and choice. Not everybody can or wants to live in a 30 year old downtown apartment or 60 year old neighbourhood.

It's perfectly legitimate to want to live in a new house, they're just very hard to find anywhere near the centre of the city. And if you do find one it will cost twice as much as the same house in the suburbs.

You seem to think you're doing society a favour by not buying a house in the burbs. Well thank you so much your highness. You are truly a good person. But people have different circumstances and reasons for doing what they do. Although it may appeal to you or I, not everybody wants to drive a Porsche 911 and not everybody wants to live in a downtown condo.

And besides, if a freeway was built through the middle of the city as was planned many years ago you can be sure that nearby residents would want satifactory noise attenuation there too.
okay, i tried to post it on their hendaynoise forum site to try to point out the obvious (why are they complaining if the chose to live next to a fwy). Although I wrote that one their site, I agree with what your saying - completely - and you make a very good point. I was trying to be a little extreme. where one decides to live is all about choice, and there should be choice. In many ways there are not enough choices for housing.
The point I was trying to make was it was their choice to live there and they should deal with it, the environmental slant was probably inappropriate.
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and nobody is holding a 🞵🞵🞵 to their head and telling them to buy next to the freeway either. And its not like the freeway just suddenly came out of nowhere. The freeway was planned before or at the same time the NSP and ASPs for those areas were formed. Didn't want to live next to a freeway? Move 2 blocks north. Can't resist the super discount prices? Well, a bit of freeway noise is for your to embrace and enjoy.
     
     
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and nobody is holding a 🞵🞵🞵 to their head and telling them to buy next to the freeway either. And its not like the freeway just suddenly came out of nowhere. The freeway was planned before or at the same time the NSP and ASPs for those areas were formed. Didn't want to live next to a freeway? Move 2 blocks north. Can't resist the super discount prices? Well, a bit of freeway noise is for your to embrace and enjoy.
except that a bit of freeway noise was probably - and reasonably - expected. but the same noise attenuation measures typically taken elsewhere in the city was also probably - and also reasonably - expected. there is no reason that with no available roadway design and configuration to look at when they bought expectations for noise attenuation would not be similar to what would have been in place for whitemud or yellowhead or even grout road and mayfield road or 170th street and plenty of other locations throughout the city for that matter.
     
     
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Get out there & enjoy the long weekend, folks!

Why not horse around this Family Day weekend?
Variety of venues await a visit from you and yours on Sunday and Monday


Chelsea Coupal
The Edmonton Journal

Friday, February 13, 2009

Alberta's Family Day continues to thrive almost 20 years after then-

premier Don Getty created it.

Four other provinces have followed suit over the years in an effort to lift people's spirits in the dead of what can be a seemingly long winter.

There are a variety of events planned for the holiday on Monday that are designed to get people off their couches.

Hockey enthusiasts can watch Edmonton Eskimos alumni play against Edmonton police officers at the University of Alberta's Clare Drake Arena. The fundraising hockey game starts at 1:30 p.m. Although admission is free, there will be door prizes and a silent auction, with funds going to the Alberta Committee of Citizens With Disabilities, an organization that promotes full societal participation for disabled Albertans.

Those eager to 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 🞵🞵 their own skates can head downtown between noon and 4 p.m. for an Alice-In-Wonderland-themed festival organized by the Downtown Business Association. Participating venues include City Hall and Churchill Square, Stanley A. Milner library, and the Alberta Legislature.

At the legislature, guests will be able to glide along the south grounds rink, ride in a horse-drawn wagon, and view ice sculptures depicting scenes from Lewis Carroll's best-known tale.

In Churchill Square, festival-goers will be able to skate, ride in horse-drawn sleighs, and make bannock; inside City Hall, there will be a "Family Circus" where children can learn circus tricks and watch acrobats perform.

The John Janzen Nature Centre's Family Day, running from 1 p.m. until 4 p.m. also features an acrobatic comedy show. Snow-themed science experiments will to teach youngsters indoors how animals move and find food in the winter, while outside there will be sleigh rides, snowshoeing, and a bonfire where people can snuggle up and roast marshmallows and sip hot chocolate. The cost is $1.35 for children, $1.65 for youth and seniors, $2 for adults or $6 for the family.

The Royal Alberta Museum doesn't give out free hot chocolate, but it does offer free admission all day Monday. Collections ordinarily stashed away will be brought out for the public during the Curators' Show & Tell from 10:30 a.m. until 3 p.m. In the museum theatre, balloon entertainers will sculpt balloons to music and black-light special effects from 11:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.

Edmontonians craving a mellow activity can ice-fish, even if they don't have licences. For the eighth straight year in an effort to lure more Albertans into the sport, the province is letting residents ice-fish for free as long as they stay out of the national parks. Free fishing starts on Valentine's Day and runs through Monday.

Whitemud Equine Centre, the non-profit horse farm sandwiched between Fox Drive and Keillor Road, is hosting a Family Day event on Sunday. Guests will be able to explore Captain Keillor's 1918 log cabin, view archived photos and letters, stroll trails, and photograph horses, heritage homes, and the North Saskatchewan river. The event is free and runs from 1 p.m. until 4 p.m.

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Edmonton's 1914 apartments
by Lawrence Herzog
It's Our Heritage | Vol. 27 No. 6 | February 12, 2009



Annamoe Mansion. File Photo
When the Hudson’s Bay Company placed a good portion of its considerable Edmonton land holdings on the market on May 12, 1912, it triggered a real estate frenzy. The flood of more than 1,500 lots answered a pent-up boom-time demand, and over the next year, more than 500 building permits were issued in the rapidly growing city.

But the good times were not to last. By the middle of 1913, money markets were collapsing and, as boom went bust, the city was pulled into a recession that lasted through the First World War and into the 1920s.

As the city’s population increased rapidly through the boom, demand for rooming houses, apartments and suites also rose, and many of the buildings started in 1913 were some of Edmonton’s first. Even as the real estate market began to collapse, savvy entrepreneurs saw the opportunity.

Here’s a look at four apartments started and/or completed in Edmonton in 1914.

Lambton Block, 11035 97 Street

The Lambton Block was built by a prominent Edmonton lawyer and politician and designed by a prominent Edmonton architect, but neither of their names were Lambton. Construction on the three-storey building began during the summer of 1914, with a building permit for $25,000 issued June 23rd to politician John Robert Boyle, who named it for his home county of Lambton in Ontario. The lot on which it was to be built, on the corner of what was then Namayo Avenue and Thompson Avenue, was an irregularly shaped chunk of land. To overcome the constraints of the site, Edmonton architect Roland Lines came up with a six- sided structure. The building featured four stores on the main level and two dozen apartment suites on the top floors.

Interior adornments included gleaming hardwood floors and trim, wood spindled stairway and bannisters, transom windows over suite entry doors and four skylights on the top floor. There were bachelor and one-bedroom suites, some with fireplaces and bathrooms and some without. Common ladies' and gentlemen's bathrooms were found on each floor.

Early tenants included many doctors and nurses, who worked at the nearby Royal Alexandra Hospital, which had opened in 1911. In 1928 and 1929, the top floor of the Lambton Block became the Nurses Home for the hospital, until the large new Nurses Home opened at the hospital itself at the end of 1929. The Lambton Block was declared a Municipal Historic Resource in 2003.

The Annamoe Mansion, 11950 100 Avenue

Robert Childers Barton named the apartment building he constructed in 1914 after the town in County Wicklow, Ireland, where he was born. The front of the building was oriented to face the North Saskatchewan River valley, and Barton apparently insisted on large windows to take advantage of the views.

A variety of bricklaying patterns is used on the front of the three-story red brick building, creating a textured, two-dimensional effect. Stone accents are used for variety in the brick and both the window frames and balconies with their supporting brackets are painted white. It's not clear who designed the Annamoe; standard blueprints, modified by the builder, may have been used.

Derwas Court, 10146 121 Street

The Derwas Court apartment building was designed by Edmonton architect Edward Collis Hopkins. The three-story building is set in a rectangular plan and has a red brick facade, punctuated by symmetrical architectural details.

The main facade is divided into five bays by brick pilasters and contrasting windows sills, with keystone treatments above each window. The entrance vestibule has a set of double doors with a fanlight above, all contained within an arch with a contrasting keystone and voussoirs.

There are four suites on each floor and all feature a fireplace in the living room, a formal dining room, a balcony and a single bedroom. The cozy kitchens and bathrooms are illuminated by light shafts.

Parkview Apartments, 10612 97 Avenue

Constructed as the first apartment building in the River Flats area, the Parkview Apartments quickly became the preferred address for government workers at the adjacent Legislative Buildings. The Edwardian-influenced building, designed by Edmonton architects and builders Richard Foote and Nathaniel Purcell, offered its tenants lavish simplicity, excellent light penetration and air flow.

In 1920, John Kenwood and Frank Kentwood purchased the building, and they were to own it until 1962. Kenwood was director of the Edmonton Exhibition Association and founder of Kenwood and Candy, a real estate firm that dealt in some of the earliest city properties. The Parkview Apartments was designated Municipal Historic Resource by the city in 2002.

Hecla Block, 10141 95 Street

John Johnson was an immigrant from Skagafirde, Iceland and when he built his block, he named it with his homeland in mind. Mount Hecla is Iceland's largest and best-known volcano and in Icelandic, Hecla means cape.

Application for a building permit was made on May 29, 1914, and the permit for work valued at $40,000 was issued the same day. The design, by Edmonton architects David Hardie and John Martland, tends towards Edwardian Classicism or classic revival. Its double facades are topped with a parapet that contains the inscription "Hecla Block" and it boasts rounded pediments, tapestry brick facing, ornamental keystones over windows and stone accents.

Behind the facades were 21 suites on three storeys, most of them containing a living room, a bedroom, a kitchen, a small closet, and a lavatory with a toilet and sink. Two common bathtubs and one shower were accessed from the corridor on each floor. A series of light and ventilation shafts served the washrooms and bathrooms. To accommodate the oblique angle between the two streets, the building was shaped somewhat like a slanted letter ‘J' and many rooms were trapezoidal in shape.

When fire swept through the Hecla Block early the morning of May 15th, 1994, it appeared that the three-storey apartment's 80 years of life might well be at an end. Then, five years later, real estate appraiser Frank Bowen bought the property and began a bold resuscitation.

Today it contains 14 condominium apartments and has helped propel a revitalization of the community it has called home since 1914. In recognition of its historical significance, the Hecla Block has been declared a Municipal Historic Resource.

Next week: Edmonton's Second Wave of Downtown Apartments

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11803 - 123 STREET NW
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That's right across the street (east) from St. John's Ambulance. Well that's one less parking lot in our city!...

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^ Yup. I wouldn't expect anything fantastic but more office space in the area will be nice.

On another note, I just found out that our local office has sucessfully made the business case for moving our western Canada engineering department to Edmonton. We've been working on this for some time... no new jobs but there will be relocations from Vancouver, Saskatoon and Calgary. glad to see our branch growing while most others are going into contraction mode soon.
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^great to hear.

WRT tri-corp, let's hope they don't go with this...

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^although i do like the Mclaren F1.
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^ It doesn't appear that the 118th ave building is shown on their site.... although the other designs give you a pretty good idea what is going to be built there. Whatever though, still nice to see a parking lot gone.
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