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Old Posted Jan 28, 2009, 10:05 PM
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I had to laugh at a friend who lives just off 41st and cambie (5 blocks or so)... and how he was quite upset at the Canada Line for it, and i quote, "will make our neighbourhood loud, filled with undesirables, and far too busy".

ironically he had told me how much of a pain driving downtown has become

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2009, 10:24 PM
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Yes, it is. A 4 storey wood frame condo will be built above the entrance.
Vancouver should look into the MTR model. One of the world's most successful subway transit systems. They make it so convenient for people (many of whom live on top of those stations, if not amazingly nearby) to walk to. We can learn from them.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2009, 11:07 PM
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well maybe the only system in the world to use wood in a sophisticated way then, not to look like a barn or whatnot

wood is already used on greater vancouver's millenium line stations. the many stations using wood on the canada line will be in addition to that.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2009, 11:25 PM
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The difference is that wood is being used for an underground system.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2009, 11:48 PM
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The difference is that wood is being used for an underground system.
true. should look very cool.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 4:26 AM
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I'm not a huge fan of the wood being used for the underground station entrances, they look quite bluish pale - absence of that glowing wood colour you have at the Olympic oval or the M-Line stations.



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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 4:31 AM
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^So true. The elevated stations in Richmond look and feel so warm when the lights that are turned on are mixed in with the wooden roof panels.
^ Similar to Richmond Oval...wood makes everything look nicer and warmer and it makes you feel like HOME


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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 4:53 AM
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Is anyone planning to go to one of the C-Line bus integration open houses starting this weekend? I'm thinking about going to the one in Richmond Public Library.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 5:06 AM
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Are there any downtown?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 5:20 AM
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Yeah, on Feb 8th

More details on the C-Line website.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 5:34 AM
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I'll see if I can go too. I wouldn't expect anything to new though... hopefully they will have better plans of the Whiterock-Bridgeport RapidBus.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 5:36 AM
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I really hope they have more new E-W Richmond local bus routes.
And I hope they better not have those lame "Canada Line" sticker signs on buses that were shown on SSP I think 6 months ago.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2009, 5:44 AM
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I really hope they have more new E-W Richmond local bus routes.
And I hope they better not have those lame "Canada Line" sticker signs on buses that were shown on SSP I think 6 months ago.
omg, those were terrible....talk about "in your face" ugliness those stickers were.
     
     
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The difference is that wood is being used for an underground system.
Yeah that's what I was meaning. The Calgary stations look good though: warm and inviting.

I think attraction to wood is innate; it's organic like we are.
     
     
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Yeah that's what I was meaning. The Calgary stations look good though: warm and inviting.

I think attraction to wood is innate; it's organic like we are.
Well... concrete reminds us of mountains?
     
     
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Well... concrete reminds us of mountains?
nyaa... Doesn't do it for me. Wood reminds me of mountains more than concrete does.
     
     
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I just went to the bus integration open house thing today in Richmond. Nothing spectacular. Just proposed bus route maps and frequencies on a poster board (difficult to read). Some things I got from today's visit:

Overheard some people saying how it would be longer now to get to and from Marpole and Richmond with an additional transfer.

And a fellow told me the planned B-Line along 41st Avenue will not be implemented with the opening of the Canada Line...Hope that doesn't mean everybody will cram onto the Broadway B-Line for East-West connections...

430 and 480 will both be making a little detour stopping at Bridgeport Station before continuing to the final destinations...I have the slight feeling that this will make the trip a bit longer.

The UBC 480 will maintain same service levels...

I was hoping the material would be online or in a pamphlet so it's easier to read over slowly...but that's not the case apparently.
     
     
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The sides of the entrance to the Vancouver City Centre Station entry pavillion are being clad with polished gray granite (not very thick though, so hopefully it will wear well).
     
     
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I was hoping the material would be online or in a pamphlet so it's easier to read over slowly...but that's not the case apparently.
They usually post them after the last open house.. which will be in a month I think.
     
     
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Ironically, the tunnel was bored by TBM next to the Obsessions store in Yaletown - but as has been discussed (in the context of a UBC Line under Broadway itself), station excavations - even on a bored tunnel segment - will have an impact (hence, the UBC Line should be under 10th Ave!):

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Canada Line construction wipes out Obsessions, dreams
Megaproject rolls over small businesses including popular gift store

Geoff Olson
Vancouver Courier


Friday, January 30, 2009


Mark Kenna is reclining on the carpet of the stylish English Bay condo he shares with his work and life partner, Alex Barker. Kenna pokes through photographic mementos of their business, as their two golden retrievers amble about in a pool of sunlight. Everything is soon to be history at Obsessions, their Vancouver-based gift store retail business. The couple are approaching bankruptcy; their two remaining stores are now up for sale. "This is everything we've worked toward for 10 years," Mark says of their dream home. "We've mortgaged it to the hilt to keep in business. And we may have to give it up pretty soon."

Kenna says he developed shingles over the holidays from stress. In October, Barker tried to take his own life.

You don't have to travel to Beijing or some Third World backwater to find a real-world parable of how the megaproject mentality can destroy the livelihoods of hard-working business people. It's right here in our own backyard.

In 1998, Kenna and Barker were two young entrepreneurs, newly arrived from England. "The FastCat guy [Glen Clark] had just been ousted," says Barker. "Gordon Campbell had just become premier and we thought he was brilliant ...we knew that the provincial Liberals were champions of small business, and that's why we started our business. Everything was fine until they started this urban infrastructure upgrade."

Barker is referring to the Canada Line transit project, which the couple still believe is an asset to Vancouver. "We think rapid transit to the airport is a wonderful thing, but it should have been bored tunnel and merchants should have been compensated," says Barker.

Kenna and Barker aren't black-hooded activists, dedicated to sticking it to the man or smashing the state. They aren't bad bets looking for a handout or a bailout, through want of a viable business plan. The couple are two well-spoken, sophisticated retailers who grew their business into four successful locations, and were hoping for an airport outlet and an expanded global presence. Obsessions was voted the Best Gift store consecutively for the past six years in both the Georgia Straight and the West Ender. But their business was in the path of the Canada Line transit construction, which cut through the lives of Vancouver merchants as surely as it punched holes in the streets.

Kenna shows me a photo of their now defunct Yaletown location. Obsessions is all but invisible behind hoarding and blue tarp. The construction on Davie created a maze for pedestrians, reducing the store's whereabouts to a Where's Waldo guessing game. Financial statements show that the only years the company had losses, other than operating costs, were during the first two years of the three-year transit construction. A document from their accountant estimates their loss from the Canada Line to be $184,433, not including legal or accounting fees.

The couple says they were first alerted to the Canada Line construction at a public meeting at the Opus Hotel, in Sept. 2005. By January 2006, preliminary work had begun outside their Yaletown location, with streets closed to traffic in April 2006. "Had we known the landlord would be compensated for losses we would have run from there," Barker says ruefully of a two-year lease they didn't break until the final month.

Sales dwindled from $1,700 a day down to at times a mere $100 at the Yaletown location, Kenna claims. "Our website business and corporate business was performing very well and increasing in sales each year and was based out of the head office we had at the rear of our Yaletown store. Of course all took a beating, and ultimately we lost the manpower and finances to continue to operate them as the effects of the construction took a firm grip on the company."

The local suppliers were more sympathetic to postponed payments, Kenna adds, but even those relationships became strained. Supplying them with photos of the Yaletown location, which looked like the set of a postnuclear film, didn't pay the bills. A cascade of negative feedback loops followed. The whole infrastructure started coming apart, says Kenna. They were trying to keep everyone's hopes up, including their own, while laying off employees. The Yaletown location closed in October 2007. The other stores will now follow, after a valiant fight to keep afloat.

Kenna and Barker are not alone in their megaproject-mediated distress, according to the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, which estimates the average Cambie store owner has lost approximately $200,000 to the Canada Line construction.

More next week.

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