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Old Posted Jan 20, 2009, 3:01 AM
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The Star Phoenix has posted an article regarding the River Landing Complex

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I really hope this goes through. It would be a great addition/enhancement to Saskatoon's downtown and skyline!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2009, 5:12 AM
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I have a strong feeling riverlanding will be going ahead once the land is consolidated. LP seems very motivated to continue this project, I think it's more then just another condo for them, compared to their previous works it is unique and will probably help secure themselves as a major player on the developer scene. As well with the support from the people of Saskatoon as well as its administration I doubt it will slip away so easily.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2009, 5:32 AM
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I have a strong feeling riverlanding will be going ahead once the land is consolidated.
Oh, I think we can be confident of that. The lake placid employee, mjl, was able to clear up any doubt.

Funny, I wonder if "mjl" stands for Michael J. Lobsinger, CEO of Lake Placid?
...haha, sorry to state the obvious.

Glad to hear this gem is still on course to grace our skyline!!
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I posted these photos in the "Post some pictures of your city" thread in the Canada forum...I was sitting at home with my blinds slightly open and around 5:40 a bright red/pink glow began to seep through my window. I looked outside, and well, I grabbed my camera and quickly drove to Sask. Crescent to capture some skyline shots ...unfortunately, I was a tad late to capture the most intense reds and pinks, still a really striking sunset.





     
     
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Great photos, SASKFTW!!! Those are worthy of a calender somewhere

Serioulsy, those photos will hold up to any other postings on that thread. It really shows off our city (now, if there were only the RiverLanding and Lighthouse projects in the skyline, it would be that much more impressive!)

So, it looks like Lake Placid is still moving forward. That is such a relief to hear. I know that I, like many others, are still anxious to see 'construction activity' at the site, but the explanations about the land titles challenges at least offer some re-assurance that there are legite reasons for the current delay.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2009, 6:05 PM
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Interesting and very positive article from Calgary re: Saskatoon. A little overstated perhaps, and based on potential more than existing reality, but it is good to see such positive perceptions from an outsider, especially one with architectural credentials.

'Saskaboom' up on downtown


By Richard White, Calgary HeraldJanuary 17, 2009Comments (7)

While it may be all doom and gloom in Calgary these days, such is not the case in Saskatoon or, as the locals now call it, "Saskaboom."

I recently had a chance to visit there for the first time and I was impressed with what I saw, as well as learned, about the future urban development plans in the city some call the "Paris on the Prairies."

Saskatoon's downtown is a hidden gem. Arriving from the airport along Idylwyld Dr. (Highway 16), as they approach the city centre, visitors come upon a huge parking lot and the backside of the Midtown Plaza mall, as well as a big boxToysRUs store and the garish blue Galaxy Cinema.

Calgary has much the same problem as visitors enter downtown on the 4th Avenue flyover and immediately see the run-down area of the Drop In Centre (itself a beautiful building), the Cecil Hotel and the tired YWCA building.

Neither entrance to Saskatoon or Calgary's downtowns gives the greatest first impression.

However, when you turn off the highway into Saskatoon and head to the river, you come upon a wonderful downtown with about 10 blocks of shops, galleries and restaurants.

What was most impressive was the number and type of independent retailers on the street. There seemed as many upscale men's stores selling Hugo Boss as there are in Calgary.

Saskatoon's contemporary Rouge Gallery on 3rd Avenue, and the Art Placement Inc. gallery in the alley off of 3rd Avenue, could easily be in Vancouver or New York City.

Even chain stores like Lululemon and American Apparel are located on the street in character buildings, not in the downtown mall.

Speaking of the mall, from the other side, the Midtown Plaza has an interesting "railway station" architecture that nicely anchors the downtown's west side.

It has more than 120 shops, including The Bay and Sears.

Having two downtown department stores is something neither Calgary, Edmonton or Winnipeg can boast.

I was nicely surprised to learn that the mall is open three evenings a week, compared to Calgary's two. This is a healthy sign of urban vitality.

Saskatoon's Downtown Partnership, which speaks for downtown businesses, released a survey in December indicating 89 per cent of merchants experienced sales as good or better than 2007.

They also found out 88 per cent of the public would recommend visiting downtown to friends, and 30 per cent of non-downtown residents say they would consider living downtown.

You can't get much better results than that for urban vitality.

I am not sure Calgarians would be quite as positive about their downtown these days--although areas such as the west end have been transformed by condo owners seeking the inner-city lifestyle, which allows walking or a short LRT ride to work or things like the Epcor Centre for the Performing Arts.

During the past 25 years, I have come up with a number of urban vitality benchmarks--ranging from public spaces and pedestrian streets, to retail activity and festivals.

Saskatoon ranks very high on most of them.

From a public space perspective, the new Riverside Park, Kinsmen Park and Kiwanis Park create a wonderful urban recreation area along the river that's right on the edge of down-town.

There are many parallels between Calgary's riverfront developments and Saskatoon's, with Calgary's downtown offering things like Prince's Island Park and Edworthy Park.

Culturally, the Mendel Art Gallery--one of the most respected civic galleries in Canada (something Calgary can't boast)--is also located along the river, and the new Persephone Theatre anchors the development of the new River Landing district.

Like most North American cities, Saskatoon is architecturally pretty generic, but the majestic, chateau-like Bessborough Hotel that sits right on the river is certainly a landmark that could and should provide inspiration for the next generation of buildings.

From an urban living perspective, I was surprised to learn that "Saskaboom" is about to have a boom in urban living.

In chatting with Mayor Don Atchison, he shared his goal to have 10,000 people living downtown, (up from the current 3,000 people) within the next 10 years.

This is an ambitious goal, but it is already happening.

The most ambitious project in Saskatoon's downtown is River Landing project, which in many ways resembles Calgary's East Village development.

Phase One has already begun with the new riverfront park, a new children's water play feature, and the Persephone Theatre.

Phase One will also include the urban village site, where Calgary-based developer Lake Placid plans to construct an upscale 21-story condo, a 12-story hotel and a four-story office/retail development ( www.lpdi.ca).

To be called River Landing Village, the project is to offer condos starting at $299,000,with live/work townhouses starting at $879,900 and going up to $1.195 million.

Yes, there are million-dollar condos in Saskaboom. Designed by Calgary's S2 Architecture, the three clean, curved and contemporary glass buildings promise to set a new benchmark for architecture in Saskatoon and could easily fit into our East Village.

Phase Two of the River Landing development includes an expanded riverfront park, more public space, and private housing developments including the new Rivergreen Eco Village development next to the Farmer's Market (yes, "Saskaboom"has a downtown farmer's market, which will make the area a much more attractive place to live).

Rivergreen will link the old and tired community of Riversdale with the river and downtown. The project is being developed by Prairie Ecovillage Development Corp.,a community-based, non-profit corporation whose vision for the project is to create one of Canada's most environmentally-friendly places to live and work. Another healthy sign of urban vitality is the conversion of old warehouse space into condos.

The Rumley Warehouse building was originally designed by Hill and Woltersdorf Architects of Chicago and constructed at the height of Saskatoon's 1912 boom.

Originally a showroom and warehouse for farm machinery, it has been converted into seven-story luxury modern lofts with 12-to 16-foot ceilings.

The condo conversion project by Obasa Group sold out quickly and other conversion projects in the city centre are in various stages of construction and planning.

Fortunately, there are several other ware-house buildings in the downtown that would be excellent candidates for loft conversion.

In addition to the downtown and River Landing developments, plans for other major urban projects including the 3rd Avenue Streetscape Enhancement project and the development of the old railway lands at 25th Street into a mixed-use urban village.

The 3rd Avenue Enhancement will create a true main street for Saskatoon, which is currently missing from the city.

The same is true for Calgary, as none of our downtown avenues have the grandeur and pageantry to make them a truly memorable main street.

The 25th Street project could create an entirely new Railtown community for Saskatoon, as well as a wonderful urban gateway entrance to the downtown from the airport.

I would also be remiss if I didn't mention Saskaboom's hip strip on the east side of the river. At the top of the river escarpment along Broadway Avenue is a charming collection of boutiques, restaurants, cafes and galleries.

It is also home to Meridian Development's new funky seven-story condominium project called Luxe ( www.meridiandevelopment.ca).

Like Kensington Village in Calgary, Broad-way Village is a short walk from downtown across the bridge.

It is here that you understand why Saskaboom is sometimes called the "Paris of Prairies"--when you stand on the bridge. you get a wonderful panoramic view of the Down-town, the river and the four bridges.

Atchison's plan to make Saskatoon Canada's next urban playground may not be as far fetched as some think.

Richard White Is A Calgary-based writer who has written on art, architecture and urban culture for more than 20 years.he is also an associate at riddell kurczaba architecture and can be reached at [email protected].

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Old Posted Jan 20, 2009, 11:07 PM
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Wow, what an endorsement! I agree maybe a little overstated, but it's a bit of an ego boost none the less.
     
     
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It was complimentary, but also was very condescending, imo. I dunno, something about it really annoyed me. "old and tired community of Riversdale"? c'mon.
     
     
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but it is old and worn down quite a bit, endorsment is endorsment and this article really makes our downtown seem quite amazing, but not quite as good for riversdale, it really does need a big overhaul
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It was complimentary, but also was very condescending, imo. I dunno, something about it really annoyed me. "old and tired community of Riversdale"? c'mon.
I don't think anyone reading the article will look down on Saskatoon because it has an "old and tired" part of town. Virtually all cities have neighborhoods similar to our Riversdale, including Calgary. The point is that forces of revitalization are underway. The author recognizes this and is clearly impressed by the changes that River Landing will bring, as well as by our "downtown" farmer's market.

All in all the article was a very positive one, if not a bit exaggerated. But if that's what an outsider sees and experiences when visiting our city, then great! To me the article was like a big rubber stamp of approval saying that Saskatoon is on track to becoming Canada's next urban destination.
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Some good news amongst all the doom and gloom:

Potash Corp. earnings boom
Last Updated: Thursday, January 22, 2009 | 7:38 AM CT

Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan said Thursday that it posted its best-ever fourth-quarter profit and a saw a tripling of its full-year earnings.

The Saskatoon-based company told investors it made $2.56 US per share, or $788 million, in the fourth quarter, more than double the $1.16 per share, $376.8 million, it earned in the same period last year. Potash reports in U.S. dollars.

Potash said that helped push its 2008 earnings to $11.01 per share, or $3.5 billion, more than triple the $3.40 per share, or $1.1 billion, earned in 2007.

The company said that marked its fifth consecutive year of record earnings.

"The unprecedented global economic challenges of the fourth quarter were a sharp contrast to the positive operating environment of the first three quarters of 2008," said company president and chief executive officer Bill Doyle. "Our success over the course of the year demonstrated the resilience and adaptability of our company, as well as the effectiveness of our strategies in rapidly changing conditions."

Looking ahead, the company said it expects slower demand for its products in the first quarter of this year, before sales pick up in the second quarter. The company currently estimates its first-quarter net income will be in the range of 70 cents to $1 per share, and projects its full-year earnings will be in a range of $10 to $12 per share.

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congrats on the article about your city's vitality. i only wish winnipeg could bost the same about our downtown. manitoba hydro just announced that its interested in gutting and perhaps demoing three historic buildings in our exchange district. for a substation. yep, you read correct. anyways, pat on the back for our next door neighbors!
     
     
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That would be a huge mistake if Man Hydro is allowed to demolish those historic buildings in the Exchange District. I have been to Winnipeg about 5 times in my life, but have always appreciated that area of your downtown as it has a kind of SOHO feeling Lots of original retail stores and some good restaurants. It certainly adds to what otherwise could be a pretty mundane and 'quiet' downtown (especially in the evenings). I hope "peggers" voice their opposition to this.

Just a comment on the Potash Corp article. Good for them, but how unfortunate in the face of these record profits they felt the need to layoff employees (even if it may be a temporary action). Must be hard for those employees to accept the fact that the company they work for is awash in $$$, but they still have to take it on the chin.
     
     
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It certainly adds to what otherwise could be a pretty mundane and 'quiet' downtown (especially in the evenings).
Yes, but Winnipeg's downtown is bustling with people and traffic in the daytime, especially at peak hours. As for the evenings, I don't think any city on the prairies can say that their downtown's are "bustling" with people in the evening. I know Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg can't.

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The fourth Q stats are up on the SREDA site. Overall Saskatoon has out performed itself once again! I'm really enjoying the airport stat at the bottom, record setting passangers again, we really blew last years figure out of the water. Hopefully 2009 is just a levelled off reoccurence of this year or possibly just small growth then in 2010 we take off again!
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Thanks for the update Rod....

Lung Association wants smoking ban at Lighthouse tower

The residential tower proposed for the police station parking lot should be smoke-free, says the Lung Association of Saskatchewan.
The association’s health educator, Paul Van Loon, has sent letters to all of the proponents of the Lighthouse project, including the builder, city council and Saskatchewan Housing Corp.

Van Loon is calling for the Lighthouse building — which includes assisted-living units as well as market-rate housing — to ban smoking throughout the building, including in private units.

“It certainly is happening throughout North America. (Smoking) is becoming more and more of an issue,” Van Loon said.

Second-hand smoke hits tenants of residential buildings through shared ventilation systems, Van Loon said. It’s more diluted in an apartment building than it would be in one open space, but people are exposed to it for longer periods of time, he said.

Tony Argento, CEO of Stoneset Equities, which will build the tower, said he’ll consider the idea but doesn’t think it’s practical. Some assisted-living residents of Lighthouse Inc. are smokers.

It would also be hard to enforce the smoking ban once condo units are sold, Argento said.

“There are limitations in what you can impose. What you do in your own home, I’m not sure we can start dictating it.”

Larry Chaykowski, acting president of Saskatchewan Housing Corp., which is the project developer, said currently smoking is only banned in public housing projects where there’s an acute health risk, such as a resident who uses an oxygen tank.

“Your home is your castle when you rent it.”

There’s already at least one smokefree residential building in the city. Barrington Place on Fifth Avenue North banned smoking about a year and a half ago, although smoking tenants already living there are still allowed to light up.

“It’s an attraction for other renters,” said Jamie Lackie of Colliers McClocklin, which manages the building for Winnipeg-based Globe General Agencies. “It’s something people want, just like when they go to a hotel. More people want a smoke-free room.”
Landlords save money they normally spend changing carpets and repainting after smokers move out, he said.

Meanwhile, Stoneset and its public-sector partners are finalizing details of a contract for Stoneset to construct the building. A deal is expected by the end of February.

Despite the worsening economy, construction prices are holding steady, Argento said.

“If I had this project in Calgary, (costs) would probably go down because there’s a lot of projects put on hold.”

Financing is not yet in place as Stoneset conducts a housing market study. But Stoneset’s chances of winning over the lenders are good since the project is government-backed, Argento said.

“(We’re) as confident as we can be but the truth is in the pudding.”

The sale of condo units may begin in spring. There’s an oversupply of condos in some cities, but Argento said he doesn’t think Saskatoon’s condo stock is overbuilt. There have been several high-profile condo conversion projects started or completed recently downtown, but most of them have small numbers of units.

The only other big condo project, Lake Placid’s planned tower at River Landing, is aimed mainly at a higherpriced market, Argento said.

“I think the population can support (both).”

The Lighthouse building will rise about 90 metres, with a police antenna on top. That will probably work out to 28 levels, but 32 storeys, because the first few floors are double-storeys.

A study has concluded the site’s high water table is manageable and would allow for four storeys of underground parking.

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My parents told me that the city already has over 600 million in permits for '09. Is someone able to confirm this? This would mean pretty good growth over 2008 which is fantastic, as well with most cities leveling off or declining and Saskatoon really being the only one to still having rapid growth could mean more large population increases.
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Thanks for the update Rod....

Lung Association wants smoking ban at Lighthouse tower

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The Lighthouse building will rise about 90 metres, with a police antenna on top. That will probably work out to 28 levels, but 32 storeys, because the first few floors are double-storeys.

A study has concluded the site’s high water table is manageable and would allow for four storeys of underground parking.

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90 metres + a police antenna...they should incorporate the antenna as a permanent spire...for credible/legitimate height claims...and light it up like the Bess and St. Johns spires ...although it may look awkward, we could become known as spire city...a new identity?
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The world of Spire City is just like our world, except that there are superheroes, and there is the city itself, which doesn’t exist in our maps. Spire City is a bit like Chicago, but there is also much of Indianapolis in it. Spire City is an upper Midwestern city founded on the northwestern banks of a large body of navigable water: whether this body is one of the Great Lakes or a wide place in Mississippi or Ohio Rivers is not specified at this time. Like Chicago, the skyscrapers of Spire City stretch on and on, like a huge steel and glass forest. Like most Midwestern cities, there is a strong international element, and yet an equal measure of shabbiness.

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And with regards to the tower topping out at a height of "32 storeys", what does Rod mean by double-storeys on the first few floors? Do they have vaulted ceilings or are they minimum access floors housing mechanical/hvac?

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There was a RFP in todays SP regarding the Caswell Hill South Concept. Submission deadline is late February.

Perhaps this is a hint that the Federal and Provincial governments are considering provision of funds towards the bus barns relocation/Caswell Hill redevelopment project
     
     
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