Salt Lake:Official development news thread - Page 411

TANGELD_SLC · #**8201** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 6:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by nickfreakingrules

I think our planet is very over populated. The ecosystem was absorbing our impact quite well until about the time of the industrial revolution. Which not only increased our impact on the ecosystem by the pollution it produced, but then that was exacerbated by our population exploding at the same time.

Its not just a question of how much space we take up, but how much we use.

Like I said, not overpopulated, mismanaged. BADLY mismanaged.

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Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

What, you don't like Godzilla's dildo?

Urban_logic · #**8202** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 4:54 PM**

I was just out looking at the CCC project and began thinking. Isn't it just ironic the timing of this project? For one, the project took off right before the recession took a swing at the economy. The recession started Dec 2007, the project began a year prior. So it's wonderful that this got off the ground just before the recession, which could have potentially delayed/altered the project. Second, think about all the people who now have secure jobs through 2012 - perfect for riding out the recession. I looked down at the armies of construction workers on the Cross Roads Block below me, then I thought of all the ones behind me on the ZCMI Block and the Social Hall Block behind that. Look at all those people - and housholds they provide for - that have an income in these times, and will most likely keep those jobs until the recession is well over, at which time they can find other jobs. It's almost as if the LDS Church knew...lol

scottharding · #**8203** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 7:36 PM**

Uh oh. Here it comes.

delts145 · #**8204** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 8:17 PM**

Well, whatever the reason, it is good timing. Now... here's to hoping that it will reach completion about the time of a great national economic recovery.

Boiseguy · #**8205** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 8:56 PM**

well the only part of the country that seems to be weathering the recession the best is the mountain west region. Not to say there haven't been layoffs and tough times. But considering the coasts and midwest.. we have it pretty good so far.. If anything hopefully CCC would be a catalyst for economic recovery in the region.. even if the national economy hasn't quite recovered fully...

DMTower · #**8206** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urban_logic

...It's almost as if the LDS Church knew...lol

It's more like they are immune... any other developer would probably have been screwed.

TANGELD_SLC · #**8207** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 12:49 AM**

Actually I just read an article online somewhere and I think I saw someone posted it here on SSP somewhere also that the biggest projects and the world's tallest buildings are always started on the eve of a financial melt-down. Woolsworth, Eiffel Tower, Empire State Building, Petronas Twins, Sears Tower, and now Burj Dubai.

Heck, even locally we had CCC start on the eve of a crisis. It's not that we missed the blow, it's that we waited until the cycle peaked up before we began any massive projects.

delts145 · #**8208** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 1:20 PM**

I think these big projects will save allot of money during this down cycle as a result of the significant drop in material costs.

delts145 · #**8209** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 1:46 PM**

The 'dance downtown: Salt Lake City venues make Sundance intimate

By Ben Fulton
The Salt Lake Tribune

Screening at the Rose Wagner

by cheezorg

Lisa Brady didn't have the Sundance Film Festival in mind when she surveyed future locations for her teahouse business.

As luck would have it, however, the Sundance Film Festival had its sights dead set on her Beehive Tea Room when it needed an official festival cafe.

Patrons enjoy the window light at the Beehive Tea House in Salt Lake City. (Steve Griffin/The Salt Lake Tribune)

Brady's selling point? Her 12 W. Broadway location in downtown Salt Lake City fell almost dead center between the Rose Wagner Center for the Performing Arts and the Broadway Centre Cinemas. Those two venues -- plus the offshoot Tower Theatre at 900 S. 900 East -- form the nexus of the festival's downtown Salt Lake City core for movie screenings.

It's a loose-packed nexus to be sure, and far removed from the jam-packed hustle and bustle of Park City, but that's part of the appeal. Festival partymongers and celebrity hounds know well enough by now that the road in that direction leads straight to Park City. Film aficionados, on the other hand, know that their surest chance of scoring a screening seat is in Salt Lake City. Parking's less of a challenge, too.

"If [Sundance] didn't have Salt Lake City, they wouldn't be able to show as many films," said Karen Hannahs, a Salt Lake City social worker and counselor who's attended both ends of the festival every year since 1992, except for last year when she fell ill.

And while it's his job to pump Salt Lake City up all he can, Scott Becker, Salt Lake Convention and Visitors Bureau president and an avid Metallica fan, notes that he saw a festival documentary on the band among a crowd of 20 at the Broadway Centre. The Park City screening of the same film was sold out, natch.

"The energy of Park City is undeniable," Becker said. "But the true film fan understands it's all about the movies."

Avid festivalgoers know Sundance has deep roots in Salt Lake City as well. At least until 2004, the first year the festival moved its opening-night screening from its traditional Salt Lake City location up to Park City. "Locals know there's a broad showing of films here that make an undiscovered gem," Becker said.

For Brady, the hope of added business due to the festival started small when the Beehive Tea Room signed on as an official cafe in 2006. It's since grown huge, requiring additional staff and hours during the festival's 10-day stretch. Beehive Tea Room signs come down, the Sundance Film Festival logo goes up, musicians perform nightly and the festival literati descend.

"For us, it's business as usual, but times eight," Brady said. "There are times when I come out of the kitchen -- although that's rare -- to see people from all over the world hanging out. Our main goal is to get people fed and off to their movie on time.

"We don't really get the entourages, but we do get the directors," she said, recalling times when festival big shots occasionally use the tea room as a way station between airport arrival and a festival volunteer's ride to Park City.

The exposure has already garnered her business a shooting location for one movie, "Dark Matter," about a Chinese physics student's troubled times adapting to American society.

Hannahs said that while the Salt Lake City festival district is almost guaranteed to give festivalgoers a more manageable experience, the downside is that it risks feeling a bit lackluster. "If you saw a film in Salt Lake City, you very seldom got to see and hear from the film director or someone in the cast. That means you lose a lot of the festival experience," Hannahs said. "I feel bad for people who don't know what it might be like."

The local filmgoer thinks organizers are paying the festival's Salt Lake City venues more attention, realizing that local film mavens unable or unwilling to make the drive to Park City deserve more festival atmosphere. "[Festival organizers] are starting to recognize that a lot of strength in their audience comes from Salt Lake City," Hannahs said.

Sundance 2009

Sundance Survival 101 -- http://www.sltrib.com/sundance/ci_11398970
Slate shows film's global reach -- http://www.sltrib.com/sundance/ci_11129257
Premieres: A different kind of romance -- http://www.sltrib.com/sundance/ci_11138890

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shakman · #**8210** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

I think these big projects will save allot of money during this down cycle as a result of the significant drop in material costs.

I don't think on a National level. Perhaps locally.

Future Mayor · #**8211** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 4:13 PM**

I really love that there is a little Sundance corridor forming in DT SLC, along 300 S. Now just imagine if the Utah was renovated as a film school and large Sundance screening location. What a nice little hub of Sundance that would be along 300 S and Main St.

This would really create a lot of foot traffic on Main St. and 300 S and would help to revitalize retail along those corridors.

shakman · #**8212** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I really love that there is a little Sundance corridor forming in DT SLC, along 300 S. Now just imagine if the Utah was renovated as a film school and large Sundance screening location. What a nice little hub of Sundance that would be along 300 S and Main St.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read that SLC has a Nationally recognized Film Festival? One of the largest in the US?

Future Mayor · #**8213** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 4:28 PM**

If someone else knows differently please correct us both.

Sundance is most likely the film festival you are referring to. While the festival is centered around Park City, Salt Lake City has a big focus and several screenings, they also have a few screenings in Ogden as well. This is due to a couple of reasons; Salt Lake city obviously is the airport that services PC; many local residents participate in the screenings; PC doesn't have the theater space required to screen all the films; and Salt Lake City can has a large number of hotel rooms that can be used for the festival.

So while PC is the focus, SLC is the natural overflow for the festival. And as SLC continues to grow and urbanize, it will continue to be more and more attractive to Sundance visitors.

skyguy414 · #**8214** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by shakman

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read that SLC has a Nationally recognized Film Festival? One of the largest in the US?

Actually, one of the largest in the World (largest independent film festival in the US).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival

DMTower · #**8215** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 5:59 PM**

Also I believe that the Slamdance film festival is gaining popularity as an alternative to Sundance, and many of it's screenings are in Salt Lake as there is no room in Park City.

shakman · #**8216** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 6:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by skyguy414

Actually, one of the largest in the World (largest independent film festival in the US).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival

Thank you for the information. Yet another positive for the area.

Are any of these film shown outdoors?

utahboozer · #**8217** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by DMTower

Also I believe that the Slamdance film festival is gaining popularity as an alternative to Sundance, and many of it's screenings are in Salt Lake as there is no room in Park City.

You can't forget about Tromadance!

UTAZLoVer · #**8218** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by shakman

Thank you for the information. Yet another positive for the area.

Are any of these film shown outdoors?

The Sundance Film Festival takes place during two weeks in January during the dead of winter, so unfortunately I doubt that anyone would be willing to attend if the movies were shown outdoors.

I've always thought that Redford should play with the idea of hosting a baby sister festival in the Summer to boost PC tourism during that traditionally slow time. They could screen movies that almost made it into the actual Sundance Festival, or maybe just replay ones that had so more local audiences who don't like to brave the winter Sundance crowds have an opportunity to see them. In any case, they could bring some of those screenings outdoors, since summer temperatures in Park City are to die for.

Comrade · #**8219** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 9:40 PM**

utahboozer · #**8220** Posted **Jan 13, 2009, 9:47 PM**

Am I the only one who thinks we need to update the picture of Salt Lake in its Wikipedia page?