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Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 6:26 PM
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well, fwiw i don't take issue with the findings. but obviously LA didn't get top five for having either of those general characteristics bolded above.surveyed.
I agree with that as well ...it has a long way to go. I see small bits of progress, but we need to create an integrated city that allows easy flow of people to all of the major neighborhoods with the least amount of traffic and trouble...which obviously is not the case as of now. The point I think of the article was mainly to show that the market, at least commercially, could start a rebound here in LA sooner than many would have expected. If that can lead to investment in that region wide comprehensive transportation system...I am all for it. I think DTLA is in a unique position in that it could create a microcosm of what the city could be like if money is put into more trains, subways, cabs, and trolleys, street level developement, and cultural spaces.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 7:28 PM
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^ That's one of the reasons why I think LA is one of the few cities that has does pretty well during this time of woe and want (Gold star goes to the one who can name me the movie that quote was taken from). It's in the position to rebound pretty strongly as we didn't overbuild like Miami or San Diego, and have made long terms projects that'll help pump money into the local economy. LA Live chief among them.
     
     
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Great photos taken by Eric! Does he have an account on SSP?
Apparently I hadn't checked in on this forum since August...

Late Night DASH and extended hours on the Red Line kick off tonight. Both run through the end of the year on Friday and Saturday nights, bringing coherent transit both inside of Downtown and to Downtown until 3am. I really believe that service like this DASH (and later the streetcar) are important to connecting the dots for Downtown development. It was great to see several Downtown developers and property owners contribute to the DASH pilot, including Astani and MerueloMaddux.

http://blogdowntown.com/2008/11/3822-get-ready-to-ride-holiday-late-night-dash

http://metro.net/riding_metro/metro_rail/rl_latenight/default.htm

I'm thinking one of these nights I may have to use the DASH to do a late night photo tour. It'll make lugging the tripod around quite a bit easier.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2008, 7:24 AM
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Any word on when Concerto will be completed?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2008, 3:37 PM
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Not sure about Concerto, I'd guess mid '09 for Tower 1 considering the rate of progress so far. Tower 2, well it may not happen for a long while, if ever.

And looking out of my window this morning I'd venture to say we are within a couple floors (at most) of having the Ritz topped out, based on the angle of the (roughly) vertical beams in place on the last couple floors being constructed. Then a little more height for the crown. All in all, I'm fairly pleased with it's height (notwithstanding the grumblings to the contrary by some posters here).
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2008, 12:42 AM
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I'm overall satisfied by it's height; though I don't think it's going to be quite as high as I thought.

Mid 2009 for Tower 1 of Concerto? That sounds pretty bullish, considering that 717 Ninth won't open until late 2009.
BTW, just curious: what building do you live in, ladowntowner?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 4:03 AM
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Mid 2009 for Tower 1 of Concerto? That sounds pretty bullish, considering that 717 Ninth won't open until late 2009.
BTW, just curious: what building do you live in, ladowntowner?
You may be right about that depending on your perspective. I looked it up and found that it was projected for a September '09 completion, which could be considered "late mid" '09 to "early late" '09 but it's kind of splitting hairs at that point. Whatever the case, it sounds like third quarter '09. Now if it will be early third quarter, mid third quarter or even late third quarter is anyone's guess at this point. Does any of this really ultimately matter in the grand scheme of things? Not likely.

What building do I live in? What makes you think I live in a building? Perhaps I live in an underpass of the 110 and have propped up a window to look through so it will feel a little more "homey."
     
     
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I don't remember if anyone mentioned that the vacant flea-bag hotel/apartment on the north side of Olympic just across from the Ritz is currently under demo. A very painstakingly slow demo at that, as it appears they are attempting recover as many bricks as possible intact and palletizing them. My understanding is that old bricks usually sell for more than new ones and are in higher demand.

Also, the University Gateway project has vertical rebar in place throughout the entire project up to the third floor.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2008, 7:37 PM
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I don't remember if anyone mentioned that the vacant flea-bag hotel/apartment on the north side of Olympic just across from the Ritz is currently under demo. A very painstakingly slow demo at that, as it appears they are attempting recover as many bricks as possible intact and palletizing them. My understanding is that old bricks usually sell for more than new ones and are in higher demand.
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Angelenic and blogdowntown have commented on that particular activity, and whether it will be another parking lot for L.A. Live(which I hope it isn't..), or possibly another development altogether, isn't clear yet. I was there about a few months ago, and most recently three weeks ago, and it doesn't look like it's progressed that much. Hmmm..... maybe the demand for old bricks is slowing?

BTW, it looks like they're fixing up the LED billboard on the ESPN building:


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Curbed LA,

Real Estate Development: Where's LA Headed?

Tuesday, November 25, 2008, by Dakota

Last week, the Urban Land Institute, a nonprofit education and research institute, held its annual Emerging Trends Presentation, an event that invited local real estate experts to discuss the findings of two recently released ULI-Pricewaterhouse Cooper studies about the national and local real estate markets, respectively. Moderating the event, held at the Japanese American National Museum, was Robert Gardner, senior vp of Robert Charles Lesser & Co, a national real estate advisory firm. An exec associated with the event passed on his notes from one of the panels to us; they're after the jump. Both ULI studies (one is called "Emerging Trends," the other is called "State of LA Capital Markets") can be pulled off ULI's web site. Additionally, some slides from the local study are in the gallery. Overall, it would seem the same trends are emerging from these talks: Experts forecast more public sector involvement and more transit-orientated development. Also, there are "fortunes" to be made during these real estate downturns, according to the local study. That part is a little fuzzy to us. Elaborate, please.

Notes from talk with Katherine Perez, Executive Director, ULI Los Angeles; Percy Vaz, President, AMCAL; and Robert Gardner, Managing Director RCLCo, following Gardner’s presentation at: “Emerging Trends 2009” State of the Los Angeles Capital Markets,” by ULI Los Angeles, Thursday, Nov. 20, at Japanese American National Museum. Not quotes, but summary of ideas from the panel:

The new economic climate and what that means for development in the Los Angeles region:

Visionaries

In this new economic climate people of vision will always find a way to access capital to create real estate projects. They will find a way to buy the debt or secure the financing to develop new property.

Housing prices

Housing prices have fallen hardest in the I.E. and other areas; those areas may take 2-3 years to recover, while the coastal areas will fare much better.

New ways of building/living

The new economy will force architects, builders and developers to build project drastically different in design than we are used to in the Los Angeles region. The urban core and transit-oriented developments (TODs) are two of the directions that will be most significant in this new era.

- In many ways, architects will be among the most important figures to respond to this challenge, by coming up with new designs that put the highest possible degrees of livability into high-density development. Smaller square footages are what will pencil out for financing; they need to become attractive to consumers as well.

-- Changes in demographics (younger, more ethnically diversified population) will feed these trends. These populations are more accepting of higher densities.

Public sector

- Because many of these developments will be designed with much higher densities than has been traditional in Los Angeles, open space will be at a premium. This will require the public sector, in some ways, to provide the parks and open space that are otherwise lacking. In fact, government will need to contribute much more to all the positive elements of an urban environment, including schools and transportation.

- Also, because of the unavailability of financing, government participation in development will grow in importance. Public/private partnerships will be more prominent, with government often holding the land.


Per the ULI's web site, the following speakers took part in discussions: "John Menne, MetLife; John McClelland, LACERA; Scott McMullin, Holliday Fenoglio Fowler; Richard Neilson, Bank of America; Keith Rosenthal, Phoenix Realty Group; Rick Newman, Lowe Enterprises Real Estate Group, West; Kevin Ratner, Forest City Residential West; Percy Vaz, AMCAL; Jina Yoon, CRA/LA; David Waite, Jeffer Mangels Butlerf & Marmaro LLP; and Wayne Ratkovich, The Ratkovich Company."
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2008, 4:51 AM
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Angelenic and blogdowntown have commented on that particular activity, and whether it will be another parking lot for L.A. Live(which I hope it isn't..), or possibly another development altogether, isn't clear yet. I was there about a few months ago, and most recently three weeks ago, and it doesn't look like it's progressed that much. Hmmm..... maybe the demand for old bricks is slowing?
That plot of land is the LASED "Olympic North" site, identified in the master plan for a hotel use.

http://blogdowntown.com/2008/01/3091-marriott-to-create-the-los-angeles-edition

If the Marriott Edition happens, I would be shocked if it doesn't end up right there.
     
     
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I saw renderings of it being connected by a Pedestrian Bridge to the Ritz, but obviously it doesn't look like that is going to happen.
     
     
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NOVEMBER 26, 2008 | LA Live

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Old Posted Nov 27, 2008, 3:05 AM
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Now thats an odd looking Christmas Tree....

BTW, is that a balcony I see above the LED screen? And if so, is it accessible?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2008, 3:27 AM
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^^That is one of the worst things I have ever seen. If they are going to do a tree, they should do a tree. One along the lines of Rockefeller Center would be great. This metal light thing is just weird and cold. LA Live could use some elements that make the area feel a bit warmer.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2008, 4:53 AM
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Maybe it's some kind of Christmas/New Years celebration tree. It does fit the modern look of the area though.

Don't stand next to that tree in a lightening storm.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2008, 9:11 AM
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I'll have to see it up and running when done to decide if this feeling of hatred for it is founded or not.
     
     
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—!!? We get a metal tree? Hell no, that thing's gotta go. It looks like an electrical accident waiting to happen.
     
     
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I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the fact that the "tree" looks almost exactly like the Watts towers.
     
     
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