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Old Posted Sep 25, 2008, 4:09 PM
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I just want to know who's idea it was in 1960 to cover up all of the detail with a plain flat front instead.
What do people do in the upper floors of all these old buildings whose windows are all covered up? Was there a big push mid-century for people to work in windowless caves?
I think most of the upper floors of these buildings sat empty or were used as storage for the stores below. I don't think people were working in windowless caves.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2008, 4:12 AM
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Tour teaches city leaders about key to economic development

Tour teaches city leaders about key to economic development



"Mayor Becker said, "It is an incredible inducement for development. Lay the tracks, and development follows immediately is what we saw place after place." ...

... "Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce President Lane Beatty said, "They are driving economic development with transit. It's not economic development driving transit. It's just the reverse of that." ...

..."More specifically, they're using the streetcar or trolley. It's different than TRAX and FrontRunner. It's slower, with stops every block. In Portland, the streetcar delivered."

..."The city (Portland) has spent $88 million on track construction. It now has $3.5 billion in private investment along the line. More than 10,000 new housing units and 5.4 million square feet of commercial space have been constructed within two blocks of the line. "...

..."Salt Lake used to have 145 miles of trolley track in the city. The idea is to build something similar again downtown. Already there's discussion of streetcars on an abandoned corridor around 2300 South." ...

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2008, 4:29 AM
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Wonderful post Scaperdude, thanks for the update. I love how Mayor Becker is pushing the various modes of mass-transit. Trolley's add such a great flavor to a city. It will be fantastic to have them back again. I do hope that they'll allow a few vintage trolleys on the lines also. The old ones have such a great look about them.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2008, 6:24 AM
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I can't wait to see the streetcar go up to the sugarhouse area. That will be so good for the area.
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SLC leaders say streetcars desired after transit tour -
Mayor Becker says a network here needs to be a priority after seeing how much Northwest cities benefit


A Portland, Ore., city-owned streetcar, similar to a proposed Sugar House streetcar that would use similar cars. (UTA)

By Derek P. Jensen
The Salt Lake Tribune

Giddy about the efficiency of Portland's downtown streetcar system - and the economic spoils it spurs - Salt Lake City leaders are determined to bring new tracks and trolleys to Utah's capital.
Fresh from a Northwest transit tour of Portland, Seattle and Vancouver with 28 city and business officials, Mayor Ralph Becker says a new streetcar network, beginning in downtown, is a priority for his freshman administration.
"Lay the tracks and development happens," Becker told reporters Thursday morning at City Hall. "That's what we saw place after place."
The vision, shared by the Redevelopment Agency, Salt Lake Chamber and the City Council, is to see streetcars - they stop on each block and charge a fare in some areas - connect to both light- and heavy-rail hubs. Eventually, they could spread into neighborhoods - the planned Sugar House trolley would serve as a model - rendering vehicles unnecessary for capital visitors and residents alike.
"Within a five-year horizon, it's doable," said Bob Farrington, the city's new economic development director.
Call it back to the future for Utah's capital, which once boasted a bustling web of street trolleys but has since seen its 150 miles of track buried by concrete. Becker says resurrecting those lines is not practical, but insists laying new streetcar tracks can be done in 18 months - and it's cheaper than TRAX.
Farrington notes the shorter the mileage, the cheaper the cost, emphasizing that a circulator system downtown would take priority.
"I am sold on the concept and the benefits of streetcars," Councilman J.T. Martin beamed. "That is the future."
Lane Beattie, Salt Lake Chamber president, insisted a system that connects City Creek Center with The Gateway could be complete by the projected opening of downtown's $1.5 billion commercial hub in 2012.
"They are driving economic development through transit," he said about Portland, noting Salt Lake City could do the same.
Indeed, Becker says a key funding component would come from businesses drawn to the new trolley corridors, which could help pay for the infrastructure through special assessments - or property taxes in the case of redevelopment areas. Becker also hopes to tap more federal money with a new administration in Washington, D.C., that he says promises to be more transit-friendly.
The mayor says a bond, placed on a ballot for voters, has not been considered for the system, which generally costs $20 million a mile.
City leaders say a slow-moving trolley network would improve the valley's air quality and reduce the need for businesses to include expensive parking.
No specific route has been picked for new trolley tracks that would be designed to share the road with cars. But, once built, they could help move as much money as people.
D.J. Baxter, the city's Redevelopment Agency director, says Portland's $55 million 2.5-mile system generated $3 billion in private investment over 10 years. It also led to 700 new residences and 4.6 million square feet of commercial construction.
Streetcars, Martin notes, revitalized Portland's once-"derelict" Pearl District. "That really hit home to me," he said. "It's not just talk - it really did happen."
With that in mind, Becker says he would like to identify areas ripe for redevelopment that simply need a "catalyst." Neither Portland nor Seattle, he marvels, had federal funding secured before launching their projects.
Seattle, Becker points out, did not complete its trolley system until last November. As more Utahns forsake their cars for downtown lofts, commute by air-conditioned train - and retirees eyeball City Creek Center's condo towers - Salt Lake City is on the cusp of a similar urban renewal. All of it, the urban planner smiles, is anchored by transit.
"We're really at the front edge of this."

Portland's rolling investment
$55M
Cost of system

2.5 miles
Length of system

$3B
Private investment generated by system

10 years
Time it took to generate investment

700
New homes have been built along system

4.6M
Square feet of commercial construction along system


I am sold on the concept and the benefits of streetcars. That is the future.
-City Councilman J.T. Martin, about streetcars in Salt Lake City.



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Convention bureau setting lofty goals to boost tourism - Salt Lake group hoping to sway event planners during visit in 2009

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- About 4,000 people will visit July 11-14 for the Meeting Professionals International 2009 World Education Congress, a gathering of people responsible for booking more than $14 billion in annual meetings.

- "The way we're describing this is that what the MPI World Education Congress is going to do to the meeting and convention industry in Utah is very similar to what hosting the 2002 Winter Olympics did to our winter tourism product," said Scott Beck, the convention bureau's president and chief executive officer.

- The event "couldn't be at a more important time for us," Beck said, as the city now has an expanded Salt Palace and a maturing destination, thanks in part to the Grand America.

- "We're going to be exposing people to a destination that frankly a lot of these people have never seen. It's an opportunity to put our city and our meeting and convention industry out there for some of the most influential people in our business. If you look at the scope and scale and dollar amounts that these folks control on an annual basis, it's staggering." ...


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More the reason why downtown SLC really needs a 1000+ room hotel.
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..."Salt Lake used to have 145 miles of trolley track in the city. The idea is to build something similar again downtown. Already there's discussion of streetcars on an abandoned corridor around 2300 South." ...[/I]
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SLC leaders say streetcars desired after transit tour -
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="4"] Mayor Ralph Becker says a new streetcar network, beginning in downtown, is a priority for his freshman administration.

"Within a five-year horizon, it's doable," said Bob Farrington, the city's new economic development director.

Becker says resurrecting those lines is not practical, but insists laying new streetcar tracks can be done in 18 months - and it's cheaper than TRAX. --- 18 months? ... Main that would be cool if it were true. Either way, Farmin

Becker also hopes to tap more federal money with a new administration in Washington, D.C., that he says promises to be more transit-friendly. --- I'm not trying to be political, but that administration would be Obama's, considering the fact that McCain throughout his political career has state he doesn't believe our nation needs a public transit system.


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Great article delts. In bold are some comments I wanted to make to certain parts of the article.
     
     
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Delts - that convention sounds amazing!
     
     
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Agreed, Imagine all of that decision making power at one convention. I wish that CCC was going to be done by then... Oh well, I'm sure the convention will be given a pretty clear picture of all of the additional offerings coming to downtown in the next couple of years.
     
     
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I think it would be nice to have 1 or 2 thousand room hotels announced around the conference. It would show that SLC is serious about conventions but also serious about not overburdoning convention goers with to much construction near the convention center.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2008, 5:26 AM
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Is most of the Hyatt going to be make out of bricks?
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Good question Projects, It's kind of impossible to tell from the rendering.
     
     
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I feel good about this project. I know the Gateway is kind of generic but I think this project will ad to the character of the area. PS I HOPE ITS ALL BRICK!!
     
     
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Is most of the Hyatt going to be make out of bricks?
Looking at the rendering and the rest of the Gateway, I'd assume the Hyatt was made out of the same ugly pre-fab stucco panels as the rest of the shopping center.

     
     
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I think we should all get together to hold a fundraising event so we can purchase some paint to send to the boyer company in hopes of seeing a different color scheme. Brick would also do well for the stucco clock tower. ... lol stucco clock tower, it's almost an oxymoron.
     
     
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you're right projects.....the HYATT is nice for the downtown area more specifically the GATEWAY. But we definantly could use a 1,000 or 2, hotel...a rendering i saw on the corner of thee existing SALT PALACE would be awsome...an perfect!!!! hey,with DELTA Airlines soon to be the largest airline....anyone know how soon the international airport project is to get underway???
     
     
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Don't know if any of you have seen this crane in North Salt Lake right now. Supposedly it is the largest mobile crane to ever be in Utah. It is helping with the remodel at the Chevron refinery. It had to be brought in to change out some of the old drums inside the refinery. Thought it would be interesting to share with you all.

     
     
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