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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 5:36 PM
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Planners praise Barrhaven subdivision design
Proposed project's high number of residential units meets goal of densifying suburbia, city officials say
Jake RupertThe Ottawa Citizen
Tuesday, May 27, 2008

A new Barrhaven subdivision with more residential units than normal is the way of the future if the goal of densifying suburbia is to be met, city planning officials say.

The Mattamy Homes project, near the intersection of Greenbank and Cambrian roads, is to be examined by council's planning committee today, and it meets with the city's goal of bringing urban-like densities and lifestyles to suburban areas, the planners say.

Karen Currie, manager of development approvals at the city, said a typical suburb has about 24 residential units per hectare of land designated for residential use.

A community design plan for south Barrhaven demands 34 units per residential hectare, and the Mattamy development, if approved, will have 40 units per residential hectare. By comparison, Old Ottawa South has 41 units per residential hectare.

The development also contains a park, and a central commercial area for businesses such as bakeries, restaurants, corner stores, dry cleaners, and storefronts with residences above the ground floors.

"(The company) has done a number of things to tighten up the density," Ms. Currie said. "I think the suburbs of the future will see more of this type of thing, and we need to encourage more of this."

Ms. Currie's comments come a week after an international group of planning and transit experts told council's transportation committee that the municipality must start creating a more compact city, including the suburbs.

They said the city's suburbs are unsustainable, and the city would be wise to put an end to expensive sprawl and create suburbs that look more like urban areas, with higher densities and employment bases.

City planners have been calling for that vision for years, but the reality has been largely detached homes and big-box store shopping centres.

The municipality is reviewing its official land-use plan, and councillors have been proclaiming a new commitment to creating a more compact city.
Ian Cross does research and forecasting in the city's planning and design department. He said the city is taking a two-pronged approach to the issue.

"You have to encourage what you want, and try to find ways to restrain the type of development you don't want," he said.

Mattamy's subdivision is able to give the city what it wants by making several seemingly minor adjustments that add up to more units. They propose 1,600 detached, semi-detached and townhouse residential units in a development of 85 hectares, with roughly half of that to be used for businesses, roads, parks and other public spaces.

The company, one of the country's biggest residential builders, was able to get the density by decreasing front- and backyard sizes, building on more land per lot and building "back-to-back" townhouses that have no backyard at all.

"I think it's a good mix and I think we're going to see more of this," said Barrhaven Councillor Jan Harder, noting that smaller properties are generally more affordable. "It will allow people who couldn't afford a single or a townhome to buy them."

Higher densities are supposed to be easier on the city's budget, as well.

"(The subdivision) responds to policies in the official plan that speak to the creation of unique, compact and innovative developments that in the long term result in more efficient use of the city infrastructure and resources," says a planning staff report to committee on the application.

And it's most likely the first of many subdivisions of its kind in the area.

Preliminary forecasts for the land-use-plan update call for 55 per cent of the city's growth over the next 23 years to be in the suburbs (with nine per cent in the rural areas and 36 per cent inside the Greenbelt).

Ms. Currie said the new type of subdivision, however, is just part of the answer for densifying the suburbs. She said the city will also have to look at "retrofitting" built-up areas, too.

This is exactly what the panel of experts said the city should be doing in the suburbs, particularly along mass-transit routes planned for the municipal transit network, which goes to city council for a vote tomorrow.

They said the city shouldn't even consider sending rail transit to the suburbs until residential areas along these routes reach urban-level densities, a concept supported by a unanimous vote of city council's transit and transportation committees.

To send rail service to the suburbs now, they said, would only encourage sprawl.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008
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Old Posted May 28, 2008, 4:37 PM
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^ it's been approved. From the Citizen:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=1643f88e-f227-487a-8fd9-6fea558f9328

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Intensified subdivision approved

A subdivision in Barrhaven that will bring urban-like residential densities in suburbia, was approved by city council Wednesday. The Mattamy Homes project will see 40 residential units per hectare designated for homes, which is similar to Old Ottawa South, where typical suburban areas have 24 units per hectare. The plan calls for about 1,600 homes on 85 hectares, in all. The city is revamping its land-use rules with the goal of creating more compact and financially sustainable neighbourhoods, and city staff supported the project because of its higher density and because it contains a core area for commercial operations and jobs.
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Old Posted May 28, 2008, 5:45 PM
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Yeah bring on those densification plans even in the suburbs, then maybe it will bring light-rail much earlier there.
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^ it's been approved. From the Citizen:
More importantly, the president of Richcraft gets to build his dream home in Rockcliffe Park.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2008, 5:42 PM
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Looks like a new one for Barrhaven or at least I have not posted it yet, but basically it is an application for the land bounded by the Jock, Cambrian, Jockvale and Greenbank - so basically east of Half Moon Bay and north/west of Stonebridge

http://apps104.ottawa.ca/emap/?emapver=l...2277&featname=3538+Jockvale+Road&lang=en
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Fotenn seem to get lots of work these days.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2008, 11:06 PM
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the longfields city-owned development is supposed to be at the next p&e meeting
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http://www.runge.net/TempDownload/DownloadFiles/1217602472/kk-080801.pdf

According to the Kanata Kourier today, Queen's Park has halted the Kanata West project because of flood concerns from the Carp River.
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More trouble for the Chelsea Creek development. Citizens are against it.. the thinking is that once they allow high-density development, it will open the door for more (article in french only)

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080908/CPDROIT/80907122/6784/CPDROIT

(nice scowl on that woman's face.. think the photographer asked her to put on her game face for the article..)
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Eastboro

http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/communities/details.aspx?listingid=25

COMING SOON! 2009


Ashcroft Homes will be building the rural/city get-a-way you are looking for; Eastboro

Nestled between Orleans and Navan, Eastboro is surrounded by fertile farmlands and miles of country roads. Agriculture and Conservation play significant roles in the stimulation of the Eastboro community. Eastboro is not only a development, it is a self-contained community designed on 200 acres of land.

A rustic get-a-way without the exclusion of city life, Eastboro, is where you'll want to be!

With access to the Blackburn Hamlet bypass in as little as 2 minutes. Ashcroft Homes has created a climate of innovation, diversification, implementation within their new and exciting community through collaborative strategic planning throughout the community development planning process.

Eastboro offers the perfect blend of country-comfort style just far enough out of the city that you do not have to worry about jeopardizing your new found serenity. This is the ideal opportunity for home buyers to get into the home of their dreams in the serenity of the country landscape!

Aimed at attracting 'families who are looking for a residential retreat of relaxation and unique beauty', Eastboro is quite simply a unique development.

It is the development of a family environment that is rich in experience and opportunity for all of its residents, that is viewed as the most exciting aspect. Great emphasis has been given to each and every detail within this unique and exceptional residential retreat. A variety of elements ranging from a school to bountiful parks, a romantic promenade, and light commercial, all come together to form part of the unique experience that Eastboro offers.
lol at the name.... the area won't have farmland and a rustic country feel for long.
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Will this be the anti-Westboro?
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Dibs on Southboro.
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Will this be the anti-Westboro?
This may be the anti-Westboro in terms of its proximity to amenities. I wonder how much 'product' in Ashcrofts 'inventory' this development will take up.

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Wasn't Westboro a suburb at one time too? Who knows, given another 75 years or so, Eastboro might be the ritzy neighbourhood. One can always hope.
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Westboro a suburb ...as was Eastview...aka Vanier around the turn of the last century or a bit earlier. One article said it was full of federal workers escaping from the downtown area to their quite homes in the evening. Sound familiar Orleans?

I am also told Westboro was a rundown slum not so long ago.

All these things go in cycles...

Except for maybe Rockcliffe
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Many of today’s older established areas that are lauded for their “character” were actually the cookie-cutter neighbourhoods of their day…

Funny thing about Eastboro… I got lost in behind Orleans a few weeks ago (even though I grew up there) and I think I actually drove through where it’s going to be. It was in a part of Orleans I didn’t even know existed. Of course, these days there are entire neighbourhoods in Orleans in areas I didn’t even know existed…
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