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Ideas on table for south campus carry 'friendly neighbour' theme
University envisions green sustainability features, restful 'gathering place' at 240-hectare site

Keith Gerein
The Edmonton Journal


Friday, August 22, 2008


EDMONTON -- Plans for the University of Alberta's south campus are beginning to take shape, with school officials quietly unveiling designs that envision wide green spaces and bike trails alongside a mix of sports venues, academic buildings and housing.

As the U of A's main campus nears capacity, administrators say there is now growing urgency to shift expansion efforts to the mostly undeveloped 240 hectares south of Belgravia Road.

As such, the school has started to approach community leaders in the area with ideas for a development designed to offer a welcoming environment for both students and residents.

"There are opportunities to be a friendly neighbour and to add services we need together with what the community feels they need," said Don Hickey, the university's vice-president of facilities and operations.

"We want to ensure that the layout of campus is inviting so that people are encouraged to walk in."

Hickey said current designs represent the school's "initial thinking" for developing south campus, not a finalized proposal. Precise details about the look and size of the buildings, the location of access roads and the arrangement of amenities still have to be worked out in consultation with the city and nearby communities, he said.

Whatever plan is eventually approved, administrators are insisting on having a campus that adheres to principles of sustainability, Hickey said.

This could mean adopting environmentally friendly features such as geothermal energy or arranging surface runoff so it is naturally treated as it goes through to the groundwater. As well, the inclusion of employee housing on campus would encourage staff to walk or cycle to work, rather than drive.

Hickey said it's also important to note that the current vision calls for ample green space, including wide trails that would converge at a central plaza area.

Here, planners envision a water feature lying between two buildings: The already constructed AgriFood Discovery Place, and a new structure that could turn out to be a student centre.

"It would be a gathering place for students and faculty," Hickey said. "It's an organizing element that kind of takes the place of what a quad might be."

Leading east from the plaza could be a promenade or "main street" that would take people to the South Campus LRT station.

The buildings along this strip could offer a range of services, from coffee shops and pubs to doctor's offices and drycleaners. One idea receiving attention is to have businesses on the ground floor, with academic space or residence rooms above, Hickey said.

"This would be a high-traffic area. For most people getting off the LRT, this would be their front door into campus."

He said the highest density buildings will probably be near the LRT, although it's unknown at this point if there will be any highrise towers. Most buildings on campus are envisioned to be fairly low-rise structures, he said.

On the most northern section of campus, the university is picturing up to three new athletic facilities to accompany Foote Field and the Saville Centre. One of these is expected to be the GO Centre, a $36-million, volunteer-driven project that would have nine basketball courts, eight volleyball courts and a gymnastics area. The Golden Bears and Pandas varsity teams could play their home games here.

The city and university are also considering a twin-arena complex that would host the U of A hockey teams. If this comes to fruition, Clare Drake Arena on main campus would be devoted to more recreational use, including more intramurals.

A new fieldhouse with facilities similar to the Butterdome is another possibility, although funding for this project may be dependent on Edmonton landing the 2015 University Games.

As for the academic programs that could be hosted on site, the Faculty of Agricultural, Life and Environmental Sciences and the Faculty of Physical Education and Recreation are expected to relocate to south campus.

Much of the campus land is currently used for agricultural animal research. Some of this would stay on-site, but the herd-type operations involving cows and pigs will likely move over time to the university's new research station north of St. Albert, Hickey said.

"It's not often you get to do a master plan for a new campus, so we need to make sure we come up with a good one," U of A provost Carl Amrhein said. "The more we can make south campus into a 365-days-a-year community, the better off we are."

At 240 hectares, south campus is more than 2.5 times the size of main campus, so it will take a long time to develop, Amrhein said.

The first phase of construction, which could take until 2020 or longer, will probably focus on the northern section of land above 60th Avenue.

A 50-year timetable could apply to the rest of campus, including the property known as West 240, which lies west of 122nd Street. That area is envisioned to eventually have workforce housing and possibly some shared research facilities used by both the school and private corporations.

It's unknown how many students will ultimately be hosted at south campus, although the section north of 60th Avenue is projected to have about 12,000.

This would make it a lower-density development than main campus, which currently holds about 35,000 students.

Some community leaders have seen the south campus designs, and more consultations with focus groups will take place in September. A public open house is being planned for October.

"We are just starting on this process, engaging with the community to find out what they would like to see in this precinct," Hickey said.

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City hopes Ottawa gets on board
New hybrid buses part of matching fund plan
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EDMONTON -- Hybrid transit buses, new river valley trails and bridges, and sewer upgrades on the east side of downtown are the projects that could bring the city up to $400 million in federal and provincial funding.

City administrators are recommending the projects be submitted as Edmonton's application to the Building Canada Fund, an $8.8-billion initiative that will distribute money over the next seven years for major infrastructure around the country.

Under the terms of the program, the federal and provincial government will each cover one-third of a project's cost, while the municipal government must pay for the remaining third.


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Another $100 million would be for building new river valley amenities, and $40 million would go to upgrade sewer, water and power lines in The Quarters -- an area of east downtown targeted for major residential development.

If the projects are accepted, the city must come up with $200 million in matching money.

A council committee will debate the issue on Wednesday.




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C.1 North Force - Development Application
Andrew Baziuk Architect Ltd - Andrew Baziuk or Ihor Tovstiuk
10737 -95 Street NW
Legally Described as:
Lot 28, Block 19, Plan RN23

P. Odinga read Development Officer’s comments.

MOVED: K. Prins

Motion of non-support
• Enhance and simplify 107A Avenue landscaping
• Improve exterior stair design
• Roof top – consider separating into two separate areas.
• Fake upper windows
• Articulate north wall
• Advertising on the screen wall in inappropriate
• Add sidewalk from parking lot to city sidewalk
• Add bicycle parking
• Add canopies consistent with pedestrian commercial streets
• Improve safety of parking area

Commend for design direction and improvements since last submission.
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Yup, it's been underway for a while, all the underground infrastructure is done on the east side & it looks like standards will be going up next week, & Infrastructure is about 3/4 done on the west side.

It's gonna look really cool flying into Edmonton at night.
It's also going to be a complete waste of energy. Until the area is developed or interchanges are added why are they bothering adding lights?

I guess it's to make people feel like the airport is "connected" to the city, if anything.
     
     
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It's also going to be a complete waste of energy. Until the area is developed or interchanges are added why are they bothering adding lights?

I guess it's to make people feel like the airport is "connected" to the city, if anything.
lights = safety
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Yeah? Have any data on nighttime collisions in the area? I wasn't aware there was a problem.
     
     
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some safety and some "feeling closer/more attached" ...which IMO is a very good thing. It wont feel like you are driving to Edson anymore
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some safety and some "feeling closer/more attached" ...which IMO is a very good thing. It wont feel like you are driving to Edson anymore
I agree with that aspect fully.

But where do we stop? Spruce Grove? Stony Plain? Road geometry improvements would do wonders over what lighting can do, imo.
     
     
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^ Street lighting gives visitors to Edmonton a more secure feeling that they are going to Edmonton and not Fort Chip. I have had a few people ask me if they were going to Edmonton when I picked them up one night because it seemed like there was "more light that way". Lighting will make the drive safer and makes the city and airport more connected. I will appreciate the lighting to the city.
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^^ ever driven to the airport or to Calgary first thing in the morning in the middle of winter?

QEII to Leduc is by far the worst part of the highway. (even compared to crazyass millet and its blowing snow)

There have been a dozen times where it's been so bad leaving town that I've said "That's it. When I get to the airport turnoff I'm heading home." But as soon as I get there, it's smooth sailing.

Before that though, you've got way more traffic, way more semis, and way more snow kicked up by all the semis. Lighting that section and improving visibility will be huge.
     
     
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C.1 North Force - Development Application
Andrew Baziuk Architect Ltd - Andrew Baziuk or Ihor Tovstiuk
10737 -95 Street NW
Legally Described as:
Lot 28, Block 19, Plan RN23

P. Odinga read Development Officer’s comments.

MOVED: K. Prins

Motion of non-support
• Enhance and simplify 107A Avenue landscaping
• Improve exterior stair design
• Roof top – consider separating into two separate areas.
• Fake upper windows
• Articulate north wall
• Advertising on the screen wall in inappropriate
• Add sidewalk from parking lot to city sidewalk
• Add bicycle parking
• Add canopies consistent with pedestrian commercial streets
• Improve safety of parking area

Commend for design direction and improvements since last submission.
Fake upper windows?! Man, this must of been a brutal building!
     
     
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Fake upper windows?! Man, this must of been a brutal building!
Doesn't sound that bad given EDC's comment on improved design. The 'fake windows' could have been part of the parapet concealing the rooftop mechanical and the whatnot.
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I thought it might be Belmonte (because it does need some work...):


But the address is juuust off: 10767 95 Ave. VS 10737 95 Ave. for North Force. I assume from the front page that Belmonte has their DP?
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Fake upper windows?! Man, this must of been a brutal building!
next time you're "out and about" check out the ones on commerce place's podium in the loading area just south of lux in the "service courtyard" facing the old cibc building...
     
     
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Looks like the sky is falling in Calgary. A couple of high profile projects are rumored to have bitten the dust, and could just be the beggining.
     
     
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Looks like the sky is falling in Calgary. A couple of high profile projects are rumored to have bitten the dust, and could just be the beggining.
although - as has been posted previously - some of the "cancellations" will still have approvals in place and some of them will even have their parkades completed and capped as well. where this is the case, they will have much more parking available for those projects than they would be able to get approvals for today under the new parking requirements for downtown calgary. only a skeptic would think that that might have been at least as large a part of the initial planning and decision making process as completing the entire projects (which will still get completed one day, just with more parking than if they had put things off originally).
     
     
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we require and allow far too much parking downtown as is...but yes you have a point ken
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next time you're "out and about" check out the ones on commerce place's podium in the loading area just south of lux in the "service courtyard" facing the old cibc building...
Those are terrible. But the Harry Hays in Calgary actually does it pretty well. The whole top floor on one section is a ~12' parapet c/w glazing, and behind it is all the mechanical equipment.
     
     
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Those are terrible. But the Harry Hays in Calgary actually does it pretty well. The whole top floor on one section is a ~12' parapet c/w glazing, and behind it is all the mechanical equipment.
agreed - it's not always "what" you do, it's how well you do it.
     
     
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Omega has "fake" windows...those squares on each side are actually some sort of polycarbonate
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