Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[Viperlord]

Another site you might want to get used to....

Kennedy Town Center Condos
Address: 644 West North Temple





You might want to get used to that site there too. It might be like that for awhile. This project is in the same boat. Liens up the wazoo, and notice of defaults, plus court cases as well.

[Viperlord]

The Symphony at the Gateway is going before the planning commission this next upcoming month.... Click on the link below for additional site plans, and elevations.

Symphony at the Gateway
Address: 536 west 100 south




http://www.slcgov.com/boards/plancom/2008/August/sr_4100837.pdf

[Viperlord]

The Central Park Condominiums went out for bid this week as well. I hope we can see more development around this one to make the area nicer than it currently is.

[Viperlord]

found this interesting....

Enjoy the Ride Beijing
by Lane Beattie, President and CEO, Salt Lake Chamber

full story
http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/enjoy_the_ride_beijing_08062008


"The games had a tremendous impact on our economy. We reaped $4.8 billion in sales and $1.5 billion in earnings for Utah workers. The marketing value is more difficult to grasp but for two weeks 2.1 billion viewers in over 160 countries and territories amassed over 13 billion viewer hours of Olympic coverage all staged in our beautiful city and scenic surrounding area. It is impossible to put a price tag on exposure like that."

[Viperlord]

New TRAX Line to Salt Lake International Airport a Boon to Economic Development on City’s West Side

http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/new_trax_line_to_salt_lake_international_airport_07222008

The article makes reference to a "Trackside Building, a 42,000 square-foot entertainment center being constructed next to the planned transit line at 255 North and 500 West."

does anyone have anymore information on this?


Downtown: It's the Place for the Broadway Theater

http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/downtown_its_the_place_for_the_broadway_theater

[MetroFanatic]

I just got back from a concert at the Twilight Concert Series at the Gallivan Center. I just want to say... It's great to be in the atmosphere of so many people downtown... especially on a weeknight.

[Viperlord]

Commerce CRG mid-year report...

http://www.commercecrg.com/reports/08midyear.pdf

I like the cover picture on the report.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

The Central Park Condominiums went out for bid this week as well. I hope we can see more development around this one to make the area nicer than it currently is.

This looks like a very cool project Viper. It would be a welcome addition to that neighborhood.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Commerce CRG mid-year report...

http://www.commercecrg.com/reports/08midyear.pdf

I like the cover picture on the report.

Seriously, how geeky am I. I plan to read that entire report.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

The Central Park Condominiums went out for bid this week as well. I hope we can see more development around this one to make the area nicer than it currently is.

This is a great project. I really think that are of the city has HUGE potential.

[UTPlanner]

Symphony at the Gateway looks like a great project for that area. I only wish they could find a way to bury those powerlines. I realize that it takes millions of dollars to do that. Perhaps the Redevelopment Agency could find the funding as they did through the rest of the Gateway Project.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

The Central Park Condominiums went out for bid this week as well. I hope we can see more development around this one to make the area nicer than it currently is.

This look really cool. But what south is Harrison Ave? This is downtown right?

[Makid]

It is approximately 1400 South just east of the ball park.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by arkhitektor

I listened to part of a discussion about Earl Holding last week on RadioWest. They were discussing the book Bargaining for Eden

The author of the book quoted Holding as having said that "I will never be happy until I own all of the land next to mine"

It seems that he is bent on owning gobs and gobs of land, though he really has no interest in developing any of it. I think Utah is going to have to wait until the man is dead to see anything developed on his massive land holdings in downtown Salt Lake City.

By the way, I should have mentioned earlier, I know Earl Holding would like to develop the block north of the Little America into a mini-Gateway shopping complex with very high-end retail, but he is supposedly waiting until market conditions are right or some nonsense. I don't know if he'll ever actually build it or what.

When I worked at the Grand America, several people mentioned Holding's retail plans for the block, as the feds were trying to sieze it for a courthouse and others suggested it for Réal Soccer. The federal govt was about to basically just sieze the block, but Orrin Hatch stepped in and stopped them. :/

I think Holding should have offered up the block for soccer. I think it would have been a HUGE boon to his hotels to have the soccer stadium next door. He probably could have worked out a deal where there was retail around the base of it, that he owned... maybe even convention space below it or something that was connected to Little America.

I also think Earl Holding made a BIG mistake in building the Grand America where he did and not NORTH of Little America. If the Grand had been built on the other block, it would have tied it into downtown more by being one block closer to downtown, 2 block closer to the Salt Palace, etc. He would have avoided the problems he had in having to redesign the hotel because of the flower shop and pawn shop not selling their land to him, and he could have connected the convention space of both the Little and Grand America hotels across the two blocks making for a powerhouse of a hotel convention space. NOT very bright.

[urbanboy]

But Earl Holding didn't own all the parcels on that block until after the Grand America was completed.

I'm glad the Grand is located where it is, for if it were located on the block north of the Little America, it would have wasted some good street-front on Main. The Grand is set so far back from the sidewalk, it's no fun to walk past.

[NYC Rick]

I look at the kind of coop and residential condos going up and something bothers me. Very few, if any, are built in the kind of style that seems to be timeless.

The more I look at these lists and images of apartments, the more I really think these will be ready for the scrap heap in 20 years. Not only that but there are so many design quirks to each that there is absolutely ability to bond or define
a living neighborhood.

It may be nit picking but I would really like someone to point out how these non homogeous construction styles are going to be a positive definition.

I am not trying to piss people off, it is just the way I feel. I like the way the Gateway developed a continuity as if everyone was actually on the same page.

Now the different apartment and condo developments just seem to be without discussion and commonality.

If there is one thing about the east, it is that there seem to be no rush to just change styles just for the sake of doing it. Neighborhoods take on their own character (high-rise or not).

If something angular and Euro goes up then it is done with a sense of not dominating or sticking out like a sore thumb.

Of course I am kind of an interloper here even though I know and love SLC. It just seems they are building more than a few future eyesores...and they will become that not to far down the road.

Please tell me where I am wrong.

[urbanboy]

Here is a possibility for a Convention Hotel:

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

But Earl Holding didn't own all the parcels on that block until after the Grand America was completed.

I'm glad the Grand is located where it is, for if it were located on the block north of the Little America, it would have wasted some good street-front on Main. The Grand is set so far back from the sidewalk, it's no fun to walk past.

Earl Holding did own the entire block BEFORE the Grand was built. He just hadn't demolished all of them, yet. Little used some of them for storage and one of them as an employment center for people applying for jobs at Little/Grand.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

But Earl Holding didn't own all the parcels on that block until after the Grand America was completed.

I'm glad the Grand is located where it is, for if it were located on the block north of the Little America, it would have wasted some good street-front on Main. The Grand is set so far back from the sidewalk, it's no fun to walk past.

Walking past the Grand is a lot more fun than the vast wasteland of Holding's parking lot on Main. There's a gaping hole in downtown that could be filled and made feel more connected and complete by having the Grand at 4th south.

If only for Holding's own benefit... the sales managers at the Grand have a hard time filling the Grand because it's so far from the Salt Palace, would be much easier to do if it were two blocks closer... but the Grand is the only hotel large enough for many conventions, so it gets filled for large conventions.

I wish Marriott would build a real 1,000-room convention hotel at the site of the old DV8. That would CRUSH the Grand (since I don't like Holding anyway and hated some of the asses I worked with there--it would make me happy). Marriott was considering such a move a few years ago, but hasn't followed through, YET.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by NYC Rick

I look at the kind of coop and residential condos going up and something bothers me. Very few, if any, are built in the kind of style that seems to be timeless.

The more I look at these lists and images of apartments, the more I really think these will be ready for the scrap heap in 20 years. Not only that but there are so many design quirks to each that there is absolutely ability to bond or define a living neighborhood.

It may be nit picking but I would really like someone to point out how these non homogeous construction styles are going to be a positive definition.

I am not trying to piss people off, it is just the way I feel. I like the way the Gateway developed a continuity as if everyone was actually on the same page.

Now the different apartment and condo developments just seem to be without discussion and commonality.

Your issue with timelessness I can get behind, but...

You want the styles to be homogenous!?? That I do NOT agree with. The worst neighborhoods are those where everything looks the same. By the "Gateway" are you referring to the mall/apts/condo development by the Boyer Co. or the overall "Gateway" area of surrounding blocks? It seems like you're referring to just the Boyer development, which "everyone" was "on the same page" for that development because it was all developed by one company... and I think it looks like crap. Too much beige stucco, which is not what the plans looked like that they presented to the public.