Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Kwik-E-Mart

However I still do not understand how can a two-car train make a 150-degree turn at Lougheed Town Centre Station.

Think Main Street Station, but it keeps turning.

[Kwik-E-Mart]

Originally Posted by mr.x2

Think Main Street Station, but it keeps turning.

But that's a pretty sharp turn according to the map!

Kidding aside, I am sure they will address the turn once they draw the route out...

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Kwik-E-Mart

But that's a pretty sharp turn according to the map!

Kidding aside, I am sure they will address the turn once they draw the route out...

officedweller posted some pics of a model of the 2002 proposal for how the Lougheed interchange would work. The Evergreen Line's turn is quite sharp, and high as well - similar to the Bridgeport interchange.

[Jared]

It will have to take the turn slowly, but it's right beside a station, so train will be just starting to accelerate or decelerating already.

What I'm more curious is how they'll handle the interlining. Both Columbia station and Bridgeport have "Y" splits, but it looks like they'll probably have to criss-cross the tracks here...

[deasine]

Yup that's what I'm curious about. The crossover configuration seems very interesting. Officedweller showed us plans in the past and I've posted possible movement patterns before, but it still amazes me (oddly enough).

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by fever

I was thinking the station would be over the rail line because the platform would be closer to grade. The transition at Ioco is similar to the transition at Commercial, with both having a (potential) station and an overpass nearby.

Depends on the clearance under the overpass bridge there.

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Here's the link to the Model Shop page on the Lougheed Station - back from the M-Line construction era:

http://www.modelshop.bc.ca/porty2/file/4000/4021/4021-1.htm

[officedweller]

The Tri-City News
Give us our Evergreen – now, please

By Lara Gerrits - The Tri-City News

Published: July 22, 2008 6:00 PM
Updated: July 23, 2008 9:50 AM Coquitlam city councillors have a new wish list for the Evergreen Line:

• They want it sooner than planned.

• They want another station in Town Centre.

• And they want more of it underground.

Citing rising fuel costs “exerting a financial burden on consumers” and spurring the need for more alternative travel, council voted unanimously Monday to send a letter to the provincial and federal governments requesting an immediate start to the $1.4-billion automated light rapid transit (ALRT) line — despite a $600-million funding gap.

Coun. Lou Sekora, who made the motion, said the previously announced 2014 completion date “is way too far in the distance” and argued that extra taxes collected from the high price of gasoline could cover the funding shortfall.

Earlier in the meeting, staff gave a status update on the SkyTrain-type transit line to run from Lougheed Town Centre, down North Road, through Port Moody and into Coquitlam. A request for proposals for a project engineer closed yesterday and, once that person is hired (likely prior to September), the engineer will begin project planning and development work on the Evergreen Line.

And while it is assumed three stations will be located in Coquitlam’s city centre, Coun. Brent Asmundson added another request: one more. He also asked staff to push the government to have the line go underground at Pinetree Way to reduce impact on the city centre and also at Smith Avenue at North Road.

“I think it’s critical that we address some of the concerns” of those living in Burquitlam, said Coun. Fin Donnelly, who urged planners to be “unique and innovative.”

But Mayor Maxine Wilson stressed that residents want the Evergreen Line built as soon as possible and don’t want the process to become any more complicated. She did say, however, that the stretch along Barnet Highway has been overlooked and noted, “That area can stand a lot of intensive redevelopment.”

Later this summer, an Evergreen Line community office is expected to open. And this fall, the Ministry of Transportation is expected to produce a report on the best way of building the system as a public-private partnership.

City staff will report back to council in late September or early October with information on the city’s strategic interests, guiding principles, preferences and key success factors to be pursued with the Evergreen Line team.

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[mr.x]

^ i think the government is moving as fast as they can, starting from their announcement this past winter. Not to mention that construction can't exactly begin "right away" if there's a $600-million funding gap.

Given that it takes about two years (2008-late 2009) for planning, design, engineering work, public consultations, RFP's, etc., construction on the line should begin sometime late next year or right after the Olympics. Construction would probably take 3-4 years. Six years until the line opens for service isn't that unreasonable.

He also asked staff to push the government to have the line go underground at Pinetree Way to reduce impact on the city centre and also at Smith Avenue at North Road.

I would highly prefer an elevated guideway.....the views of the mountains there would be stunning. Not to mention that we don't exactly have the finances available for more tunnel....especially with a $600-million shortfall for the existing plan.

[Dave2]

Glen Clark announced that the M-Line would be built with Skytrain instead of LRT in 1998; it was open in 2002... We should/could be able to build the Ev line by 2012.

[twoNeurons]

I believe the "Millennium" line was opened in September 2001.

[Dave2]

To Braid maybe, but wasn't the rest of the line to Commercial delayed into 2002?

[officedweller]

I think so.

The line could be cut and covered through the Barnet/Lougheed/PineTree intersection. The LRT plans had the station south of Lougheed - however, the line is elevated on Pinetree, so having it underground just increases the grade required to get to the elevated portion of the guideway and introduces a tunnel portal which would mess up the streetscape.
Having the line elevated over the intersection isn't really a big deal as long as the "bents" are minimized.
(i.e. look at Sea Island Way & No. 3 Rd. - well done there, versus Lougheed & Gilmore - ugly bents)

[Jared]

Braid: January 2002
Commercial: September 2002

[Xrayal]

http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2005-2009/2008TRAN0055-001188.htm

B.C., TRANSLINK AGREE ON EVERGREEN LINE DELIVERY


VICTORIA – The Province of British Columbia will be the project lead for the $1.4-billion Evergreen Line rapid transit project, Transportation and Infrastructure Minister Kevin Falcon and TransLink board chair Dale Parker announced today.


“The Evergreen Line gives people in the Tri-Cities a clean and green transportation choice,” said Falcon. “Our ministry has a proven track record of delivering large infrastructure projects on time and on budget, and I’m absolutely confident the Evergreen Line will be no different.”


“People in the northeast sector have seen plans for the Evergreen Line turn into commitments and our next step is to turn commitments into construction,” said Parker. “This partnership between the province and TransLink gets us a major step closer to getting shovels into the ground.”


The Province and TransLink have signed an agreement outlining the responsibilities of each in connection to the Evergreen Line. The agreement also identifies requirements for the line, including the use of advanced light rapid transit (ALRT) technology and the integration with SkyTrain’s Millennium and Expo lines. The Evergreen Line project board is made up of representatives from both the provincial government and TransLink.


The 11-kilometre Evergreen Line will extend from the SkyTrain station at Lougheed Town Centre in Burnaby to Coquitlam Town Centre via Port Moody. The Province and TransLink are establishing a project office along the route later this year. Construction on the line is expected to start in 2010, with the line completed and operating by the end of 2014.

[en2]

Thats good news to hear!

[mezzanine]

I don't know if this has been discussed already, but if the province is going to put this out to tender, can anyone else besides bombardier put in a bid? would it violate any existing contract with bombardier to have say, hitachi reverse engineer a MK-2 spec car and supply it to translink?

[WarrenC12]

Excellent news. At least things are moving.

But this means a third operations and maintenance yard right? That's getting a little silly.

[deasine]

Thanks for the update.

Originally Posted by mezzanine

I don't know if this has been discussed already, but if the province is going to put this out to tender, can anyone else besides bombardier put in a bid? would it violate any existing contract with bombardier to have say, hitachi reverse engineer a MK-2 spec car and supply it to translink?

Yes it has... but you have to know there aren't many LIM manufacturers... Hitachi is one, Kawasaki is another (but they haven't ventured outside of asia before)

[flight_from_kamakura]

wow, this is interesting news. looks like it won't be a p3, looks like it's sure to go to bombardier (since they have the technology and they can just integrate their production and maintenance facilities savings into their tender, as opposed to constructing and/or leasing the bombardier facilities which other groups would have to include), looks like it's on track.

thanks for the update!

[mr.x]

This is the path the provincial gov't should have taken with the Canada Line in the first place......interesting how the Evergreen Line will now cost the same as what the Canada Line was originally projected to cost.

Hopefully they'll build this line the right way the first time.