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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 9:45 PM
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^ I think so. This looks extremely delicious. However I hope it isn't all Quiznos and Cold Stone. I actually would prefer a more high end selection: Barneys, Prada, and lots of high end restraunts and lounges.
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Hello all

I was bored so I thought I'd throw up some pictures of the "pit" and the progress thats been made.

The first photo was taken 2 weeks ago with no real noticeable progress.




The second photo was taken last week, a bit more dirt moved.





The next four photos were taken today.












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I wonder if that slow pace of growth is going to continue, despite the fact that it is supposed to be moving along well.

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A rant. By me 300. Enjoy. Or not.

Since we can't cuss: What the funk? Either some people are overly sensitive or it's against the rules to seep a little of our own personal trademarks into our posts. Everyone here is known for something. I mean Echo Park hates LA, colemonkee is the sardonic mod, and I rock with my fierce Kelis avatars and weird wordisms. I just want to make clear that while everyone (well most) of us at one point or another will make jabs at each other for various reasons (as it is expected as we all have reverse polarity ideas for downtown LA), none of us wishes any ill will towards anyone. However, I type what I feel is right for the situation and while I know this is a message board for urban devlopment/skyscrapers and such, I'm going to put me into everything that I type wheather people like it or not. How I post on SSP is how I am in real life. I'm not going to call someone stupid or shite on someones ideas ALL of the time but it's going to happen. Not now. Not later (possibly later) but it'll happen. You can delete it or you can taste it and realize that it does in fact taste just like candy.

WITH THAT SAID, I'm going downtown later today and someone reccomend me a good, cheap cafe for me to suckle smoothies and eat little sandwiches. And no one say Lost Souls.

Dude, I never really say it too much, but you are truly hilarious. But thats okay by me! To tell you the truth, we need some laughs in this depressing era of slow growth with little ground-breakings!

But where am I? Whats my trademark? Smilies?
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^ Agreed. Let's stay on topic guys. ladowntowner, I count 28 floor plates on 717 Ninth, so 7 floors left, plus mechanicals and/or a helipad.
Thanks, colemonkee. As per usual, I was being lazy and didn't check the front page. In the past I've seen this one variously stated as having anywhere from 35-40 floors, with 37 sticking in my head for some reason or another.

Meruelo had previously said he would (or wanted to) start a new high-rise every 6 months or so. Now I imagine he'll be lucky just to start another after this one is mostly sold or leased out, if then.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2008, 12:46 PM
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anyone have any new shots of AT&T's (Transamerica's) crown progress? I hope they light it up like the Frost Bank Building in Austin, TX.....probably one of the coolest buildings built in the last 10 years. (sorry I don't have a pic of it - photobucket peaced out on me)
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2008, 3:53 PM
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Dude, I never really say it too much, but you are truly hilarious. But thats okay by me! To tell you the truth, we need some laughs in this depressing era of slow growth with little ground-breakings!

But where am I? Whats my trademark? Smilies?
You are like the little dog from the Beggan strips commerical. You run around at 90 mph without a care (or clue) in the world. Looking looking looking. Like a shrew. Or lemming. But when you see something new and tasty, you EXPLODE with excitement and sounds and glitter and the light from the Luxor!! You scream and dance and say, 'IT'S BACON!!!!' When in truth, it's something totally pointless and minor compared to what's really going on. 'WHAT'S THAT SAY? WHAT'S THAT SAY??? I CAN'T READ!!!!!'

That's your trademark.



GymRat: I can say that the progress of the crown has reached the north side. Slowly but surely.
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DTGymRat, I took the Blue Line up to downtown yesterday and took a lot of pictures, so I'll go through them today and see if I got one of the AT&T's crown.
     
     
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You are like the little dog from the Beggan strips commerical. You run around at 90 mph without a care (or clue) in the world. Looking looking looking. Like a shrew. Or lemming. But when you see something new and tasty, you EXPLODE with excitement and sounds and glitter and the light from the Luxor!! You scream and dance and say, 'IT'S BACON!!!!' When in truth, it's something totally pointless and minor compared to what's really going on. 'WHAT'S THAT SAY? WHAT'S THAT SAY??? I CAN'T READ!!!!!'

That's your trademark.

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This will probably have a more positive impact on Downtown LA construction than anything you could hope for right now. Thank China for raising fuel costs.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-oil20-2008jun20,0,7193780.story?track=ntothtml
From the Los Angeles Times

GLOBAL ECONOMY


China to raise fuel, electricity prices; global oil market takes notice
Subsidized retail gas and diesel prices will be allowed to rise, and the announcement appears to have an immediate effect. Crude falls to $131.93 a barrel.
By Don Lee
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

June 20, 2008

SHANGHAI — China said Thursday that it would raise fuel and electricity prices, a move that could add to the nation's already high inflation rate but cut consumer demand and thus help lower global crude oil prices.

China, which has been keeping fuel costs for consumers below market rates with billions of dollars in subsidies, said retail gasoline prices as of today would rise more than 16% and diesel prices would jump 18%. Many analysts have criticized the subsidies, saying they distorted the market and discouraged consumers and industries from conserving energy.

The announcement, made through the official New China News Agency, appeared to have an immediate effect in global markets, as crude prices for July delivery fell $4.75, or 3.5%, to settle at $131.93 a barrel in New York futures trading.

"It caught the market by surprise because most people didn't think that China would do anything about their subsidies until after the Olympics," said Phil Flynn, an analyst at Alaron Trading in Chicago. "What makes it even more amazing is the market was up because of events in Nigeria. . . . When the China thing came out, that definitely took a back seat."

Early in the day, the price of oil was ticking higher on fears over production in Nigeria, where an attack from militants forced Royal Dutch Shell to shut down production at an offshore rig, Flynn said. Sabotage of oil operations has become common in Nigeria. But this assault was unusual because the target was more than 75 miles offshore.

China is the world's second-largest consumer of oil, well behind the United States, but the Asian nation's demand and imports of crude have been growing briskly in recent years to support its booming economy and the rising standard of living among its 1.3 billion people. Analysts have said burgeoning consumption in China, India and other developing countries has contributed to the doubling of oil prices in the last 12 months.

The increase in China's retail pump prices -- to about $3.05 per gallon for gas and $3.31 for diesel -- is expected to reduce consumption.

"Once they start paying for it, they'll slow down" their fuel use, said Fadel Gheit, oil analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

He said nearly 60% of the world's oil demand growth stemmed from China's subsidized consumption. Cutting price protections there, he said, means "demand will come down very sharply."

That could let some air out of the frenzied oil market.

"I think this ride is about to end," Gheit said of the feverish rise in prices. "Everybody who is paying the true price of oil is using less . . . and the demand outlook has been weakening over the last six months."

China last raised retail fuel prices in November, by about 9%, and analysts and consumers had expected the government to lift prices again. Most people thought the increase would come after the Beijing Olympics in August because the government might not want to risk upsetting the populace by adding to higher consumer prices.

"It will definitely push up inflation, but the government had to adjust it because it faced too much pressure," said He Jun, an oil analyst at Beijing Anbound Consulting Co. "The demand-and-supply system was too distorted."

Although China's refined oil prices have been low, the market faced a supply crunch because people were hoarding fuel in anticipation of a price hike. That was exacerbated by a reluctance among the big state-owned oil companies to sell at huge losses because they had to buy oil at global market rates but sell fuel to consumers at artificially low prices.

China's top two oil companies, which produce and refine oil, have sustained heavy losses, contributing to recent declines in China's plummeting stock market.

Mei Xinyu, a researcher with China's Ministry of Commerce, said distorted prices encouraged people to waste fuel. Even though sport utility vehicle sales in Western countries have been falling sharply, he said, they have continued to rise in China. More than half of the imported vehicles in the first quarter were SUVs, he said.

"There's still a long way to go up," he said of China's retail fuel prices. "But this shows the future trend."

Mei noted that the move to raise prices followed news that China's year-over-year inflation rate edged down to 7.7% in May from 8.5% in April. He also noted that Beijing's action came a day after the U.S. and China concluded economic talks outside Washington, suggesting that Chinese officials may have been responding to calls from the U.S. to expose more of their economy to market forces.

Chinese consumers and businesses have been bracing for the higher pump prices.

"It's quite big," said Sun Aihuai, manager of Hongjian Logistics Co. in Dongguan in China's industrial southeast. Sun, who operates two 2-ton trucks, said he would probably raise his prices.

Still, he said that the fuel price increase was "acceptable," given that he recently has been forced to wait as long as two hours to fill up at jammed service stations. Sometimes, he said, he had little choice but to buy diesel on the black market at prices 30% above retail levels.

In addition to raising gas and diesel prices, the National Development and Reform Commission, China's top economic planner, said it would lift prices of aviation kerosene and electricity. The prices of natural gas and liquefied petroleum gas would be left unchanged, the commission said.

The commission said more subsidies would be offered to farmers, low-income families and taxi drivers to cushion the effect of price increases.

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Cao Jun in The Times' Shanghai bureau and Times staff writer Elizabeth Douglass in San Diego contributed to this report.
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LAB, I notice the oil issue is a bit of an obsession for you, but why pin your hopes on it? Oil scarcity and rising costs aren't going to help DTLA. Cheap construction and a friendly housing market will. When oil becomes scarce or too expensive, people will not give up their cars and move to DTLA. they will just skirt around the issue and find other ways to sustain themselves living on automobile dependence, for instance new technologies like hydrogen fueled cars. It will make people think twice about sustainability and it will help DTLA in the long term I believe but it won't create the boom I think is what you're hoping for
     
     
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^ If you read the article, you may have gotten the full message instead of pontificating about "hydrogen fueled cars." (Do I really have to explain how that won't save America's future stranded suburbanites?).

My "obsession" with oil is because I understand how important energy is to everything on this planet, including Downtown LA construction. Having China raise costs will HELP curb demand and help reduce skyrocketing fuel costs (which affect every single thing in your life, including all the "brown" people you obsess about). Although this article contests that notion.

And who said anything about a "boom" in construction? I just said it's probably the most positive impact. Man, how did you misconstrue that?
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I think you and I appear to be on the same page, LABeauty. I don't expect this to DIRECTLY cause a high-rise boom, but I do think that it will encourage people to live closer to work rather than biking there.

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LAB, I notice the oil issue is a bit of an obsession for you, but why pin your hopes on it? Oil scarcity and rising costs aren't going to help DTLA. Cheap construction and a friendly housing market will. When oil becomes scarce or too expensive, people will not give up their cars and move to DTLA. they will just skirt around the issue and find other ways to sustain themselves living on automobile dependence, for instance new technologies like hydrogen fueled cars. It will make people think twice about sustainability and it will help DTLA in the long term I believe but it won't create the boom I think is what you're hoping for

Echo, that post didn't make any sense. You say that "oil scarcity and rising costs aren't giong to help DTLA", but then at the end of the paragraph you say that "it will help DTLA in the long term".


Do you remember ladowntowner's post last year concerning future alternative fuels? Not only are they expensive, but they likely won't have dominance over oil combustion automobiles in the car making industry for years, especially when all the while the Bush Administration continues to cluelessly seek approvals to drill for crude oil off our coasts. Besides, downtown is supposed to be evolving into a more walkable environment; so how are higher gas prices not going to help? If there are less parking spaces for cars for new developments, shouldn't that discourage driving to work?
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Council Questions Pershing Square Expenditure


News Brief

The City Council last week halted, at least temporarily, a plan by the Department of Recreation and Parks to spend $190,000 on landscaping, new equipment and other improvements to Pershing Square. The money would come from developer fees designated for local park projects. Last Tuesday, Ninth District Councilwoman Jan Perry asked the Council to halt the proposed expenditure, arguing that her office was not included in the decision-making process and that plans for the $1 billion Park Fifth development nearby, which could break ground by the end of the year, include a significant renovation of the park bounded by Fifth, Sixth, Olive and Hill streets. "This expenditure during very tough economic times may be a redundant expenditure and one whose improvements may be undone" by Park Fifth, said Perry. Recreation and Parks General Manager Jon Kirk Mukri said the Department has discussed its plan with the Park Fifth developers as well as members of the Central City Association, and plans to continue working with the community on local park projects.



Seems like Jan is doing her job and she's still sounds optimistic about Park Fifth.
     
     
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^ If you read the article, you may have gotten the full message instead of pontificating about "hydrogen fueled cars." (Do I really have to explain how that won't save America's future stranded suburbanites?).

My "obsession" with oil is because I understand how important energy is to everything on this planet, including Downtown LA construction. Having China raise costs will HELP curb demand and help reduce skyrocketing fuel costs (which affect every single thing in your life, including all the "brown" people you obsess about). Although this article contests that notion.

And who said anything about a "boom" in construction? I just said it's probably the most positive impact. Man, how did you misconstrue that?

What does his commenting on your obsession on oil have to do with brown people, where did that come from? LOL that came out of no where. You crack me up.
     
     
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^ Obviously you can't understand anything. My concern over increased oil prices being mocked here on this silly board by people like Echo Park and yourself is legitimate in the continued construction of Downtown LA and just about EVERYTHING else you can imagine. Since he brought up my supposed "obsession" with oil, I wanted to present an example that he would probably have a better time understanding, which is HIS obsession with "brown people." Yes, increased oil prices will have a profound impact on brown people too! Go back to smoking your "420." You need it.
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I wasn't mocking you at all. Relax.
     
     
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^ Obviously you can't understand anything. My concern over increased oil prices being mocked here on this silly board by people like Echo Park and yourself is legitimate in the continued construction of Downtown LA and just about EVERYTHING else you can imagine. Since he brought up my supposed "obsession" with oil, I wanted to present an example that he would probably have a better time understanding, which is HIS obsession with "brown people." Yes, increased oil prices will have a profound impact on brown people too! Go back to smoking your "420." You need it.
Drug pusher.

Cities like Los Angeles are not built for the 21st century and as a result will lose their relevance in the world. If the city leaders aren't going to step up to the plate and demand an end to the flawed suburban model we're going to have to wait for the people to demand it. It is already starting to happen. I am so surprised how a lot of everyday folks who aren't forum members are starting to think that way. I think/hope the youngest generation now becoming adults will have a vastly different idea of what the American dream is and it will be an urban chic condo rather than a white picket fence.
     
     
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^ Obviously you can't understand anything. My concern over increased oil prices being mocked here on this silly board by people like Echo Park and yourself is legitimate in the continued construction of Downtown LA and just about EVERYTHING else you can imagine. Since he brought up my supposed "obsession" with oil, I wanted to present an example that he would probably have a better time understanding, which is HIS obsession with "brown people." Yes, increased oil prices will have a profound impact on brown people too! Go back to smoking your "420." You need it.
Actually you are the one who really needs it, CHILL! you take everything so personal and out of whack, you need a time out , then dismiss yourself.
     
     
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