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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 5:19 PM
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Go to CHED's website and take part in the poll! Vote to shut it down!
Unfortunately it's a bit of a click-fest. No IP address/cookie check. Or perhaps that's a good thing, depending on your point of view ...
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 5:54 PM
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Some cool visitors arriving YEG this week.

5xSukhoi SU-30's

3xIL-76 tankers

From the Indian Airforce enroute to a U.S military excercise.Stopping at EG for a day on Thursday or Friday?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 6:35 PM
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Su-30 fighters look utterly COOL.
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My teacher told me there are runways being built up near the oil sands so 747's can land there and drop off workers (didn't say where from). Is this true?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 8:48 PM
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wouldnt suprise me...but the capital involved with a runway for such an aircraft would be MASSIVE. Would be more cost effective IMO to fly into Edmonton then bus people or use a 737 to land on the current runway.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 9:12 PM
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My teacher told me there are runways being built up near the oil sands so 747's can land there and drop off workers (didn't say where from). Is this true?
There is an airstrip built by CNRL near the Horizon project about a couple of hours' drive north of Fort Mac that's taking 737s. But 747s? No.

I've seen signs in the departure lounge at YEG showing where the Horizon Oilsands flights are supposed to be boarding at - the same gates as Canadian North and First Air, I believe.

Suncor's building an airstrip complete with a terminal that would be capable of handling two 737-800s (or A320s) at once.

Neither runways up there would be able to handle 747s or even 767s - they just aren't long enough, and I don't think they'd be planning on handling anything larger than the 737 or A320.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 9:28 PM
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There is an airstrip built by CNRL near the Horizon project about a couple of hours' drive north of Fort Mac that's taking 737s. But 747s? No.

I've seen signs in the departure lounge at YEG showing where the Horizon Oilsands flights are supposed to be boarding at - the same gates as Canadian North and First Air, I believe.

Suncor's building an airstrip complete with a terminal that would be capable of handling two 737-800s (or A320s) at once.
Neither runways up there would be able to handle 747s or even 767s - they just aren't long enough, and I don't think they'd be planning on handling anything larger than the 737 or A320.
This one is now complete too, as of a couple of months ago. It is up near their Firebag project, a couple of hours (by vehicle) north of Ft mac.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 9:50 PM
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Didnt Ched do a poll about two or three months ago????????
What?, are they hoping the results will be different? Dead horse, quit beating it and close the ******* thing already
So far 66% voting to close for good!!
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 12:08 AM
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So far 66% voting to close for good!!
53% and dropping fast ...
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 3:48 AM
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Its almost 10 and the poll is still open. seems to me last time they had the poll, the shut er down as soon as the "close the muni" side overtook the "increase traffic" sometime around 4 pm sonsabitches
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 3:49 AM
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i talked to Kim Krushel a while back. She said that if the debate ever opened up - it would be keep it as is or shut it down
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I cast my vote to shut er down. Crappy site with no controls....results questionable. The ONLY vote that counts is the one the City had.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 4:52 AM
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/\ Exactly. Saw a news clip on CTV while in the proshop before I tee'd off this evening. Anyone else see that? They seemed to have a pro-muni slant to the broadcast.
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AC is cutting 2000 staff and grounding a portion of their fleet due to fuel costs
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AC is cutting 2000 staff and grounding a portion of their fleet due to fuel costs
And because of Air Cananda's hub system I bet we will be shuffled through Calgary even more now.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 3:49 PM
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from CBC...
Air Canada said Tuesday it plans to eliminate 2,000 jobs and reduce its capacity as the company joins the list of airlines cutting back in the face of higher fuel prices.

The airline also hinted that more capacity cuts may be necessary if fuel costs remain at their current levels.

The country's biggest carrier said it will reduce its overall capacity by seven per cent in the last three months of this year and the first quarter of 2009.

The airline said fuel prices have more than doubled over the past year, and that a $1 per barrel increase in the price of oil adds $26 million to its annual fuel bill.

Most of the job cuts are expected to take effect Nov. 1 and will be spread across the country. The company has the equivalent of 23,900 full-time employees.

Air Canada said fuel is its single biggest expense — accounting for more than 30 per cent of its operating expenses. The company expects its total fuel charge will be $1 billion higher this year than last year.

"The loss of jobs is painful in view of our employees' hard work in bringing the airline back to profitability over the past four years," said Montie Brewer, Air Canada's president and CEO.

"I regret having to take these actions but they are necessary to remain competitive going forward. Air Canada, like most global airlines, needs to adapt its business and reduce flying that has become unprofitable in the current fuel environment. If fuel prices remain at current levels, we can anticipate further capacity reductions," Brewer said in a release.

Air Canada said it expects the price of jet fuel will average 93 cents per litre for 2008.

The airline projected it will cost an average of $230 in fuel this year to carry one passenger on a round-trip journey, after factoring in the company's fuel hedging program. That is up from $146 last year and $110 in 2004.

13% cut to U.S. routes
Air Canada said it plans to cut capacity on its domestic routes by two per cent, its routes into the U.S. by 13 per cent and its international capacity by seven per cent.




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The airline said it will suspend its Toronto-Rome non-stop service until the peak summer season and halt Vancouver-Osaka non-stop services on October 26.

The airline's revised fall-and-winter flying schedule and changes to its fleet of aircraft will be announced at a later date.

Airline analyst Joseph D'Cruz said the North American airline industry has been hit by a "perfect storm."

"The U.S. airlines are suffering badly, and one or two of them may go bankrupt because as fuel rises they're slapping [on] surcharges, and at the same time there's a recession the United States," said D'Cruz, who is a professor at the University of Toronto's Rotman School of Management.

"The two things together — higher surcharges and the recession — are dampening demand, and that is hurting cash flow in the United States to the point where some of those airlines may be pushed into bankruptcy.

Several U.S. airlines have already announced cuts to their fleets and staff in the face of higher fuel costs and soft demand.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 3:55 PM
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^im a little worried...
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Rising energy prices are going to dampen demand for air travel all around the globe.
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^im a little worried...
Since AC has a relatively small presence in Edmonton you guys might get off without too much pain. You can see the biggest cuts will be to transborder routes (13%) and AC only has one transborder flight out of YEG (correct?). Domestic cuts are only 2% so about the only changes you may see are downguages in aircraft. International cuts of 7%, again only one flight (LHR) so you should be OK, unless they axe that one again. It may depend on what kind of yields they are getting.
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