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Oh, I guess it's a 28 storey...

Tower proposal combines low-income, condo units
Developer pitches plan for 28-storey building on downtown location
Rod Nickel, The StarPhoenix
Published: Tuesday, June 10, 2008

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A plan to house low-income and disabled people in new units north of the police station has expanded into a proposed $66-million tower that would be among Saskatoon's tallest skyscrapers.

Calgary developer Stoneset Equities has sent a formal proposal to Saskatchewan Housing Corp. to construct a building that would include 120 units for people with long-term disabilities or low incomes and 20 shelter beds. Stoneset's proposal would also have 130 rental or condo units plus commercial space, pushing it to 28 storeys.

"We're well aware of what's happening in Saskatchewan," said Tony Argento, CEO of Stoneset. "(Saskatoon) is a dynamic town. We thought it worthwhile to get involved in the economy there."

Government and city officials announced plans in October for the assisted living units, to be managed by Lighthouse Supported Living Inc. That portion of the project is expected to cost $14.58 million, with the housing corporation contributing $11.5-million and the city $1.458 million.

There are still several steps to complete before construction begins. Sask. Housing Corp. has not yet chosen Stoneset's proposal, although city planning manager Lorne Sully describes it as the lead proposal at present.

"We've discussed it with all the parties and we're assuming we're the group selected but we haven't been given the formal green light yet," Argento said. A spokesperson for the housing corporation couldn't be immediately reached for comment Monday.

City of Saskatoon has already offered the police station parking lot on Fourth Avenue for the project, but it needs to first check for environmental concerns and address them if necessary.

Stoneset also needs to get city approval for 28 storeys, which would place it with Hallmark Place on Fifth Avenue and Luther Tower as the city's tallest buildings.

City council moved the project one step ahead Monday, authorizing the city to temporarily close 23rd Street East between Fourth and Fifth avenues to allow for environmental screening of the site. If the site is ultimately sold, the city will also reserve the north side of 23rd Street between Third and Fourth avenues for police parking during construction, which could take 18-24 months.

That will pose some difficulties for the force, but "we can make it work," said police Chief Clive Weighill. The service will run some type of fence around the street to discourage vandalism of its cars. The developer will have to figure out a way for officers to plug their cars in during winter, he said.

In the long run, the police service hopes to move into new headquarters with its own parking.

Coun. Tiffany Paulsen, a member of the Saskatoon police commission, said she supports the project, but not the plan to move police cars to the street, where they will restrict the public's access to parking meters close to city hall.

"I find the whole proposal ridiculous."

Twenty-four meters would be hooded during construction.

The two-block stretch of 23rd Street currently carries 5,000 vehicles per day, including a transit DART route.

"I don't think, logistically, it would present much of a concern because the vehicles are only a few hundred feet away from the building," said Mayor Don Atchison, chair of the police commission. "People want to have the change, but sometimes there's pain that goes with it. It's a project that's needed. It would be a building that once it's complete will be quite spectacular. People will certainly take pride in the community to have (it)."

Stoneset hasn't determined the market value for the condos. It hopes to start construction in January.

Lighthouse currently operates 64 units out of the former Capri Hotel at 20th Street and Second Avenue.

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Council nixes zoning change
The StarPhoenix
Published: Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Saskatoon city council has scrapped a proposed new type of zoning district that would have allowed virtually every type of retail, along with restaurants, banks, clinics and residential development -- but not movie theatres.

The city has already banned theatres at shopping districts in Preston Crossing, Stonegate and Blairmore.

A resolution to approve the new zoning type lost on a 5-5 vote, with Coun. Bob Pringle absent.

At council's next meeting June 23, administration had planned to bring an application to rezone land in University Heights with the new zoning, shutting out theatres. Several officials with Rainbow Cinemas came to city hall Monday to chastise the city for discriminating against theatres.

"The concept that Saskatoon is such a small town that it needs only one theatre is revolting," said Tom Hutchinson, owner of Rainbow Cinemas on Eighth Street and the Roxy Theatre on 20th Street.

Hutchinson said in an interview that he became aware of the new proposed zoning when his company made inquiries about real estate in University Heights. It's unlikely any other stadium theatre will be built while the city restricts locations because movie distributors want a five-kilometre distance between theatres.

That ward's councillor, Bev Dubois, said Saskatoon needs another big theatre.

"We are showing Saskatoon isn't open for business," she said of the proposed zoning proposal.

The city has long required movie companies to build only in select locations, including downtown and Eighth Street. Its stance is the main reason Cineplex Galaxy built downtown several years ago.

Coun. Myles Heidt said the city's encouragement of theatres to locate downtown has made the city stronger.

"It's shown foresight," he said, noting Saskatoon's downtown is stronger than that of other Prairie cities.

Randy Grauer, the city's manager of development services, said he plans to bring the new zoning type back for discussion in the fall.

By building homes with retail and services, the city wants to encourage more sustainable neighbourhoods by allowing residents to stay closer to home.

He said it's not clear now where council is willing to see theatres built.

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New rendering looks much better. No picture in the paper?

Also, watch this space: http://www.stonesetequities.com/index2.php
     
     
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picture in the paper was of the previous rendering. At 28 floors, this one has the potential to be our tallest, maybe tallest in the province. Someone find out what the exact height of this thing is.
     
     
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Saskatoon May Grow Up... and Up and Up
Proposed Condo Highrise Would Top Height Bylaw

Posted June 10, 2008 - 8:14am
Looks like a Saskatoon bylaw on how high buildings can be... may soon be trumped.

A Calgary developer is working with the city and the province on a planned 28-story condo highrise, part of which would serve as housing for low-income or disabled people.

Mayor Don Atchison says he sees no reason why we can't top the 25-story rule if everything else checks out.

The city and developers must keep the fly-ways in mind: buildings situated in flight paths must be lower to stay out of planes' way.

The $66-million dollar tower is planned for just north of the police station.

Along with the assisted-living units, it will also have residential housing and commercial space.

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Height bylaw? 25-storey rule? What?
     
     
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LOL, you JUST beat me to it Macca! I posted the story a couple minutes late heh.

Hopefully this is just the ice breaker we need for more tall towers
     
     
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As for changes to the skyline, especially from across the river this project at 25 stories won't be that noticeable.
Saskatoon Tower is highlighted in red, and according to Emporis is 21 stories.

Source image - Saskatoon at Night: A full moon, a few bridges, some churches, and all the rest.

Depends on your definition of noticeable...
From that view it won't be that noticeable. But consider the view of downtown from the top of University Bridge. The tower will GREATLY impact the skyline from that view.

BTW, that new rendering is MUCH better. This is very exciting!
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OMG!! Tallest in the peovince?
I'm excited,.............could it finally be true? Ok, I think I need a nap now.
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picture in the paper was of the previous rendering. At 28 floors, this one has the potential to be our tallest, maybe tallest in the province. Someone find out what the exact height of this thing is.
     
     
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Saskatoon May Grow Up... and Up and Up
Proposed Condo Highrise Would Top Height Bylaw

Posted June 10, 2008 - 8:14am
Looks like a Saskatoon bylaw on how high buildings can be... may soon be trumped.

A Calgary developer is working with the city and the province on a planned 28-story condo highrise, part of which would serve as housing for low-income or disabled people.

Mayor Don Atchison says he sees no reason why we can't top the 25-story rule if everything else checks out.

The city and developers must keep the fly-ways in mind: buildings situated in flight paths must be lower to stay out of planes' way.

The $66-million dollar tower is planned for just north of the police station.

Along with the assisted-living units, it will also have residential housing and commercial space.

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Height bylaw? 25-storey rule? What?
First I have heard of this 25 story bylaw, I guess that's why our downtown doesn't look like Calgary's . By the rendering, the building is 28 stories, with 2 1/2 stories of that glass atrium on top. So, in total we should get Saskatoon's first 30+ building.
BTW, thanks SASKFTW for sourcing the rendering, it was late last night and I was getting lazy..
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2008, 3:25 PM
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OMG!! Tallest in the peovince?
I'm excited,.............could it finally be true? Ok, I think I need a nap now.
I think it's very possible. Saskatoon's tallest at least I'd say, unless each floor is tiny roof to ceiling . Hallmark Place at 27 floors has the highest floor count in the province and is the city's tallest.

At 28 floors, this tower is likely to rise higher than Hallmark but will still probably fall short of its "death-ray" spire. It might just eclipse Regina's Delta Hotel at 83.8 m, assuming the diagrams on here are accurate: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?stateID=16

The building just looks TALL in the new rendering. Taller than Hallmark for sure.
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I think it's very possible. Saskatoon's tallest at least I'd say, unless each floor is tiny roof to ceiling . Hallmark Place at 27 floors has the highest floor count in the province and is the city's tallest.

At 28 floors, this tower is likely to rise higher than Hallmark but will still probably fall short of its "death-ray" spire. It might just eclipse Regina's Delta Hotel at 83.8 m, assuming the diagrams on here are accurate: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?stateID=16

The building just looks TALL in the new rendering. Taller than Hallmark for sure.
Ok,....I'm back from my nap. All this excitement tires a guy out.
This is the first I heard of a 25 storey height restriction in our city. Our downtown is not that close to the airport, so why do we need a restriction? Is our city council afraid that Donald Trump is going to come and build a 80 storey sky scraper? That is really funny we would even have that bylaw.

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WOW so much has happened from last night to now! This is so exciting! I've never heard of the 25 storey bylaw, how bizaree, typical Saskatoon thing hahhah well maybe Atchison will find abolishing that bylaw a necessity for positive development! I really like the E wing at the university, congrats to their architects for continually producing fantastic buildings! Now that we know who the developer is for the Lighthouse project we should def send in our critiques and see if they actually will take them into consideration. I really liked the idea of some possible roof top greenery. Go Saskatoon, I think building Saskatchewan's tallest building would really show the rest of the country were growing rapidly which could attract more business!!
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Looking at Stoneset, are they focused on green sustainable development?
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new rendering looks lovely and a rendering of if from a different angle will make it stick out, i am impressed a new provincal tallest is somethins saskatoon needs looks like we can finally go in the towercrane thread
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Stoneset Equities Commitment
To deliver consistent growth to investors’ portfolios by providing value-added investments secured by real property, and to ensure the highest levels of compliance and performance within a responsive corporate structure.

We have a vision to create a balance of consistent growth for our investors, minimal environmental impact and value to the community. Our team is made up of experienced individuals in property acquisition, design and project management, marketing, tax planning, investments and securities law. The Stoneset team has been involved in many innovative projects utilizing smart architecture for energy conservation, including the 1994 award-winning Alberta Eco-Home in Scenic Acres, Calgary.

While maximizing the use of each site, Stoneset intends to incorporate sustainable design principles and construction features such as:

Renewable and alternative energy supplies
Energy efficient technology
Resource conservation


We believe responsible energy-efficient construction leaves a legacy benefiting not only future residents, but the environment as a whole.
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From that view it won't be that noticeable. But consider the view of downtown from the top of University Bridge. The tower will GREATLY impact the skyline from that view.

BTW, that new rendering is MUCH better. This is very exciting!
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looks like it will be a great addition actually, the variation in heights is a def welcome. As well it looks like some good progress on the mental health facility is being made!
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Looks great you guys, the more towers in Saskatchewan the better!
     
     
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