Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by stevena07

ugh, thats so stupid. I can see a reason for a parking garage (kinda) but really why tear down the building. They used half of it for the Hub, why not use the other half for that Bike Garage or retail, something. Its nice to see the Mayor Becker cares about the history of Salt Lake.

Here are a few shots of the building in question: (with the Intermodal hub behind it)




^^^Did the Intermodal hub really look that bad to start with?
The building looks so worn that they'd almost be better off tearing it down and rebuilding it to match the original design.

If the city is interested in preserving something, the Central Warehouse building is just around the corner and it seems that their efforts would be better spent lobbying to save it instead:

[WASDEN]

Agreed Ark- heres an opinion I found on the Trib's comment board:

"So SLC is hot and bothered to save a derelict warehouse, but did nothing to save Sugarhouse? "

Although I realize different powers are in charge now than when the whole Sugar Hood fiasco went down, I agree with the commentor on how misdirected the city can appear at times. I would much rather see the city negotiating with the owners of the Central Warehouse building over UTA's "derelict" but historic piece. But I really shouldn't complain- at least theay are making attempts at preservation.

I just hate to think of all the historic places we have lost and are loosing within such a short time frame- ie: Sugarhouse, The Inn at Temple Square, soon the Schubrick. All the developments that are replacing these buildings are welcome/needed around town, but I just can't understand why they can't be built on empty parking lots next door. This tendency for makeovers instead of infill will probably be the bane of my existence as long as I'm a Salt Lake resident.

[Scraperdude801]

Now I am really confused? Is it the building Ark has a photo of? Is it the building on 5 W and 1 S?

I first thought it was the central warehouse on 5 W and 2 S that Callasphile was referring to because that is what he wrote in his comment, but I didn't look at the map provided. Now I realize it isn't that.

I too wish the city would step in to save the Central Warehouse building. .... I totally agree that the Inn and Shubrick and Sugarhouse were horrible mistakes. Some of our most beloved buildings. What a shame.

[NYC Rick]

Originally Posted by delts145

SLC to UTA: Stop that bulldozer - Council wants to save historic rail warehouse near transit hub

http://origin.sltrib.com/ci_9343003

"This is grand central for a public market or a really great transit-oriented development," Councilman Soren Simonsen fumed after viewing a rendering of UTA's project this week. "There's got to be a better thing we can do here."
So Mayor Ralph Becker and the City Council are hustling behind the scenes to prevent UTA from bulldozing the warehouse in less UTA parking garage than two weeks.

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It would be great to see it. The best thing that is happening in most of the larger cities in this country is that people are finally realizing the real gems that were destined as pointless and taken advantage of before for a quick fix.

All you have to do is look at some of those old SLC pics posted here to see that cities lost amazing definitions of time and skill before people woke up.

Not just the west but everywhere. I mean where can you find the level of stone, brick and wood that was used... not to mention the flourishes and style that defined an era.

This is good news!

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by Scraperdude801

Now I am really confused? Is it the building Ark has a photo of? Is it the building on 5 W and 1 S?

I first thought it was the central warehouse on 5 W and 2 S that Callasphile was referring to because that is what he wrote in his comment, but I didn't look at the map provided. Now I realize it isn't that.

I too wish the city would step in to save the Central Warehouse building. .... I totally agree that the Inn and Shubrick and Sugarhouse were horrible mistakes. Some of our most beloved buildings. What a shame.

(1) is the 'John Deere' Warehouse that is being renovated into lofts or something. (Not being demolished)

(2) is the Central Warehouse and is rumored to be slated for demolition to be replaced with a 'sports complex'

(3) is the UTA owned warehouse referenced in the article from this morning that the city is pushing to save.

[Callasphile]

Thanks for the clarification arkhitektor,

Ya I agree that the city should have worked to save sugarhouse but I think that was more a result of the citiy's administration I think Ralph Becker is going to take a much more hands on approach YAY. That is so lame that someone is trying to tear down to central warehouse it seems like they could easily incorporate it into a sports complex. I am writing The mayors office and some city council members, maybe if it is brought to their attenntion and they realize people care they would be more willing to do something.

BTW I am a he although my picture is a girl, she's my idol. lol

[Comrade]

I question whether the Central Warehouse is going to be demolished, but only because it's on the National Register of Historic Places.

http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/UT/Salt+Lake/state2.html

Won't be easy to get that thing demolished, I think.

[RFPCME]

Good catch, Comrade. If the Central Warehouse is on the National Register..., it should be untouchable, which brings up an interesting question: Isn't there a list somewhere, probably at the Utah State Historical Society of buildings on the Register or potentially included on the Register? I'll be there is. I will check when I'm in SLC in a couple of weeks. I have a friend who works there. I would be more than happy to post the list, then all of us can monitor new developments that may threaten something that should be saved, possibly taking action before it's too late, like all of you so successfully did with the building I dislike so much--the Ken Garff Building.

[Sight-Seer]

A question: Did they renovate an existing building for the Central Station, or did they copy the look of the building to the north? The materials look too new to be renovated. Somehow I missed this one when it was built. This may be an unpopular point of view, but I don't think every old building is worth saving just because it's old, especially the one in question. It certainly has a functional look that can only be achieved by accident. It would take a talented architect to create a building so ordinary. The look is great, but it would probably be better to tear it down and rebuild it with modern materials and infrastructure. I do think it's an ideal spot for the farmer's market, but to me the building itself looks too run down to be saved. There are plenty of other spots for a parking garage. This is the typical problem in Salt Lake: They take a spot with enormous potential for pedestrian traffic and build a parking garage. Does anybody ever think? Sometimes I want to scream.

[ski_steve]

Originally Posted by Sight-Seer

A question: Did they renovate an existing building for the Central Station, or did they copy the look of the building to the north? The materials look too new to be renovated. Somehow I missed this one when it was built. This may be an unpopular point of view, but I don't think every old building is worth saving just because it's old, especially the one in question. It certainly has a functional look that can only be achieved by accident. It would take a talented architect to create a building so ordinary. The look is great, but it would probably be better to tear it down and rebuild it with modern materials and infrastructure. I do think it's an ideal spot for the farmer's market, but to me the building itself looks too run down to be saved. There are plenty of other spots for a parking garage. This is the typical problem in Salt Lake: They take a spot with enormous potential for pedestrian traffic and build a parking garage. Does anybody ever think? Sometimes I want to scream.

Im pretty sure they renovated it. They took the existing building and chopped it in half and renovated the one half. Thats what I have heard about it. As to how much is new and old materials I dont know.

I think they should just stick with the original plans and create some retail and a bike garage.

[SLC Projects]

The Hub now was once a part of that old warehouse. UTA renovate part of the old warehouse to makeway for the new hub and I thought they did a great job with it. It was my understanding that UTA were planning on doing the same thing to the 2nd haft of the warehouse to the North.

[Scraperdude801]

Originally Posted by stevena07

I think they should just stick with the original plans and create some retail and a bike garage.

I totally agree. Personally I wish the market would be established in a more attractive setting.

....In keeping with the rules of threads I will let you know that a project outside of DT broke ground. Check the MSA thread or the news. !!!

[Callasphile]

Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

I question whether the Central Warehouse is going to be demolished, but only because it's on the National Register of Historic Places.

http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/UT/Salt+Lake/state2.html

Won't be easy to get that thing demolished, I think.

Unfortunatly being on the National Register of Historic Places does not protect a building from being demolished. It provides incentives to save the building but no disincentives to tear one down. At least that is what our Proffessor told us and he specializes in historic preservation.

[arkhitektor]

Has anything actually been proposed for the Central Warehouse? Or is this all just speculation at this time?

[Callasphile]

Originally Posted by Sight-Seer

A question: Did they renovate an existing building for the Central Station, or did they copy the look of the building to the north? The materials look too new to be renovated. Somehow I missed this one when it was built. This may be an unpopular point of view, but I don't think every old building is worth saving just because it's old, especially the one in question. It certainly has a functional look that can only be achieved by accident. It would take a talented architect to create a building so ordinary. The look is great, but it would probably be better to tear it down and rebuild it with modern materials and infrastructure. I do think it's an ideal spot for the farmer's market, but to me the building itself looks too run down to be saved. There are plenty of other spots for a parking garage. This is the typical problem in Salt Lake: They take a spot with enormous potential for pedestrian traffic and build a parking garage. Does anybody ever think? Sometimes I want to scream.

I think you are refering to the Hub and that is a renovation of the existing building, my office worked on that building and it was in really bad shape alot of the steel was rusted to a point where it had to be replaced. I agree that not all buildings are worth being preserved or restored to their original character but its surprising what can be done with some pretty bad looking buildings.

[SLC Projects]

Here's is the rendering I pulled from the news paper of the Hub expansion.

Hub parking garage rendering

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by Callasphile

Unfortunatly being on the National Register of Historic Places does not protect a building from being demolished. It provides incentives to save the building but no disincentives to tear one down. At least that is what our Proffessor told us and he specializes in historic preservation.

No, but it makes it more difficult to do so and I think that's a reason why I question whether this will happen or not.

[RFPCME]

Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

No, but it makes it more difficult to do so and I think that's a reason why I question whether this will happen or not.

Thank God!

[delts145]

Sugar house blight gets deadline

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700228733,00.html?linkTrack=rotator-cvr-5308


Construction cleanup on the former Granite block in Sugar House must begin within 10 days and be completed within 30, Salt Lake City has told a developer. (Ravell Call, Deseret News)

City loses patience with big eyesore

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9367672
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[delts145]

Downtown - Salt Lake City's Olympic Record and major redevelopment begins to reap the benefits -
Major conventions begin to line up their future bookings

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_9365930

...Between the Salt Palace expansion and downtown redevelopment,... O'Neill said the meeting planner came away with "a better feel for Salt Lake City this time."


Examples of what to expect:

* Who: Girl Scouts of the USA.
* What: 53rd convention and National Council meeting.
* When: October 2014.
* Attendees: 12,000.
* Economic impact:
$10 million, including 11,000 hotel room nights citywide.

Another big meeting set

The American Industrial Hygiene Association also
has agreed to hold its 2015 national convention in
Salt Lake City. The meeting is expected to attract 10,000 attendees, who will fill
19,000 hotel room nights and generate $9 million for
Salt Lake County's economy. The association also met in Salt Lake City in 1991. About 7,800 people attended.