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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 5:04 PM
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Anyone know what's up off Westmorland Rd near Ellerdale? I noticed some ground work across from the refinery on Loch Lomond too; any chance it is a road linking Loch Lomond to Westmorland?


similarly, theres a new road starting to take shape on millidge ave (close to university ave) .... with the two new millidge hill apt buildings very close by, makes me wonder if this is paving the way at it were for more buildings....
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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 5:05 PM
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i think they're gutting & renovating those two adjoined buildings . . . heard a rumour that chipman suites bought it recently. . .

fom union street, it looks pretty quiet, but there was a crew working on the back of that building yesterday...looks like new windows/casings and renewed stone/brick work....it's being spruced up for something....
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Okay - this is a really stupid question, so apologies ahead of time - i checked out the website...the "three sisters" development --> is this synonymous with the rocca condos across from the cruise ship centre, or is this a separate initiative??????

Yes, the three sisters development are the rocca condos
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similarly, theres a new road starting to take shape on millidge ave (close to university ave) .... with the two new millidge hill apt buildings very close by, makes me wonder if this is paving the way at it were for more buildings....

They very well may be putting the pipeline and the road above it in an advantageous place for a developer.

From what I know of the energy board and pipeline routing process, Brunswick Pipelines was willing to work with land owners to put in roads over the line through properties that would best suite some owners. This is one of the ways they get people to sign on and don't have to go to expropriation.
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Yes - It's the pipeline. When you drive on the throughway towards the city just before the Crown St. overpass exit, you can see (to your right) where the pipeline is cutting through Rockwood park. The work on the side of Westmorland is also a part of the line which will feed seemingly close to East Point (at the top of the hill) and on to join where it will connect with the path through Rockwood.
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For those who may be wondering (I believe I saw the question asked quite awhile back), I sat down for coffeee with the new General Manager of The Indigo Book Store yesterday. There will be a Starbucks in this new store and incidently, the one in McAllister will not be closing so yes, there will be 3 in the same general area. She gave me detailed insight on the new Indigo store and she told me there is absolutely nothing like it in Eastern Canada. She said, and I quote "If Saint John shoppers enjoy Chapters in Moncton and Fredericton, they won't believe their eyes when this new store opens". Also noteworthy, Indigo - owner of Chapters and Coles - have committed to keeping open the existing 3 Cole stores in Saint John. I am not going to spoil the surprises she told me about however, trust me, this new Indigo store will have people from miles around coming in. It's gonna be something
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For those who may be wondering (I believe I saw the question asked quite awhile back), I sat down for coffeee with the new General Manager of The Indigo Book Store yesterday. There will be a Starbucks in this new store and incidently, the one in McAllister will not be closing so yes, there will be 3 in the same general area. She gave me detailed insight on the new Indigo store and she told me there is absolutely nothing like it in Eastern Canada. She said, and I quote "If Saint John shoppers enjoy Chapters in Moncton and Fredericton, they won't believe their eyes when this new store opens".

I was driving by the site yesterday....can't figure it out...will the indigo be multi-level in some places, or is it all a one-floor concept?
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I am told there is also a private plaza for condo owners only- for things like BBQ,private receptions, sunbathing, wine bar- that's much bigger than this one and will also be designed by the Harbour Passage architect.

that makes a lot of sense in terms of keeping a consistent (and connecting) theme going along the waterfront... it's nice to see that kind of forward thinking at this early point...
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I was driving by the site yesterday....can't figure it out...will the indigo be multi-level in some places, or is it all a one-floor concept?
Hmm .. That I do not know, lol.
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That would be quite something! Water Street will be a completely different place within the next 5-10 years, not just in appearance (I can't wait for these new buildings combined with the maturation and growth of those trees they planted last summer), but it will finally be alive with people for the first time in a lifetime!
that last point cant be emphasized enough. . . people are finally now getting to the point where they are taking development in the uptown/waterfront seriously enough that it's becoming commonplace to hear people seriously talking about moving to and living in the uptown. . .
its nice to see continued momentum and a determined faith in the area's potential appearing....
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that last point cant be emphasized enough. . . people are finally now getting to the point where they are taking development in the uptown/waterfront seriously enough that it's becoming commonplace to hear people seriously talking about moving to and living in the uptown. . .
its nice to see continued momentum and a determined faith in the area's potential appearing....
I agree with both of you.
Does anyone have a contact in Waterfront Development Corporation or Uptown Saint John? I am told they have the artist rendering of the proposed new Three sisters Plaza next to Rocca's project that is part of the Harbour Pasage design that will knock our socks off.
I would love to see it!!!.
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I agree with both of you.
Does anyone have a contact in Waterfront Development Corporation or Uptown Saint John? I am told they have the artist rendering of the proposed new Three sisters Plaza next to Rocca's project that is part of the Harbour Pasage design that will knock our socks off.
I would love to see it!!!.

right here, http://www.sjwaterfront.com/saint_john_waterfront_development__projects/water_reconstruction.html
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For those who may be wondering (I believe I saw the question asked quite awhile back), I sat down for coffeee with the new General Manager of The Indigo Book Store yesterday. There will be a Starbucks in this new store and incidently, the one in McAllister will not be closing so yes, there will be 3 in the same general area. She gave me detailed insight on the new Indigo store and she told me there is absolutely nothing like it in Eastern Canada. She said, and I quote "If Saint John shoppers enjoy Chapters in Moncton and Fredericton, they won't believe their eyes when this new store opens". Also noteworthy, Indigo - owner of Chapters and Coles - have committed to keeping open the existing 3 Cole stores in Saint John. I am not going to spoil the surprises she told me about however, trust me, this new Indigo store will have people from miles around coming in. It's gonna be something
How about an adjoining indoor fair? That would be nice!
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I heard on the radio that a local business person has offered to donate the building that Key Industries are moving out of (in the North End) to the Dal-UNBSJ english language medical school. The province is considering it.

The only thing I'm concerned about is that a certain mayoral candidate that ran against the current Post Secondary Education Minsiter has hitched her wagon to this issue.
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Millennium Drive: a developing concern
Election Once new councils are in place, a decision to investigate almagamating Rothesay and Quispamsis could soon follow

Thursday May 8th, 2008
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Rothesay Mayor Bill Bishop stands on a portion of Millennium Drive that has been the centre of attention on more than one occasion.


QUISPAMSIS - What if all of Millennium Drive were in Quispamsis?

The undeveloped sections of the roadway that are currently located in Rothesay have been a hot spot for potential developers interested in bringing their businesses to the Kennebecasis Valley. As space for commercial development dwindles in the Valley region, many eyes are looking at this strip of land.

Wal-Mart has been turned away and a Shannex seniors' complex showed interest before settling on a location in Quispamsis.

Murray Driscoll and Beth Fitzpatrick are both vying for the position of mayor of Rothesay's neighbouring town of Quispamsis, which shares Millennium Drive with Rothesay. It has been established that the issue of amalgamating the two Kennebecasis Valley communities will be left for the new common councils to handle.

The winner of the mayoral race, then, will be a major player in the amalgamation decision.

If amalgamation were to occur, the newly combined community would contain all of Millennium Drive.

Driscoll, who is currently serving his second term as deputy mayor of Quispamsis, says there is no reason for business not to go on Millennium Drive.

"Millennium is zoned for business," says Driscoll.

"If it were to be amalgamated, whatever the zoning was, that's what I would recommend go there. If Wal-Mart wants to come to Quispamsis, come on in...(and) I would do that for an amalgamated Kennebecasis Valley."

The main issue for Driscoll is to do what is best for the community - whether it be Quispamsis, Rothesay or an amalgamation of both.

Before an amalgamation, however, he says that he would support a study analyzing the pros and cons of such a merger, followed by public consultation.

Therefore, says the deputy mayor, "If (Wal-Mart) is the best thing for us, let's do the study and find out."

In terms of disrupting nearby residents, Driscoll says amalgamation would need to be looked at first before addressing individual needs.

"I think it's a bit early in the game for us to address the needs of anyone, when we don't even know the benefits or non-benefits of amalgamation. I see us going no further at this time than having a study."

Opposing mayoral candidate Fitzpatrick says that her support would be weighted by the choice of the people, and that the taxpayers should ultimately be consulted before such a development.

She offers a skating rink as a potential development for the area.

"If taxpayers are happy with leaving it (undeveloped), or if they want to put a rink up there, then put a rink. Great, I'm for that."

Amalgamation would depend on the vote of the taxpayers, she says, and before that, co-operation between the communities is needed.

"I would like to see the two towns get along and see how that goes," says Fitzpatrick.

Bill Bishop is the current mayor of Rothesay and has been acclaimed to his position for another term after running unopposed.

He says Millennium Drive is a valuable piece of property, and it is going to be developed.

"It's a case of getting something that will fit the commercial nature (of Millennium Drive), and yet be kind to the residential aspect of the town," says Bishop.

Residents' concerns are at the forefront, he explains, as they are worried about the noise and light pollution as well as truck traffic. The land is not owned by Rothesay but the town has the ability to approve or deny potential development.

When the question of amalgamation was raised, Bishop said that Quispamsis has a different point of view towards commercial development than Rothesay.

"They seem to have less demands put on developers. I guess that's the word on the street."

He says that much of Quispamsis is not serviced by town water and sewage, which he would insist as necessary for development in Rothesay.

Bishop notes that "we would put a lot of thought to the concerns of residents in the area, as well."

If the two towns amalgamated, he says that there would definitely be a "different flavour of council," which could have a "whole different take on development. They may be pro-development, moreso than Rothesay."

The Rothesay mayor notes that at the moment, the town is in favour of commercial development but that it also wishes to respect its residential nature.
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Another view of the Water Street condos...

Nice looking project, simply high-class.
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Nice looking project, simply high-class.
I agree, they're turning out to be a very nice addition to SJ's waterfront and skyline!
Plus they'll be another 2-3 floors taller from the other side, because of the difference in elevation between Prince William and Water Street.

Well in the wake of this week's casino announcement, at least one of New Brunswick's cities is showing progress on increasing urban density....

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