Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by stevena07

Move of old, big Odd Fellows building risky

By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune



After sitting for 117 years in the same spot, the Odd Fellows Hall might have a few aches and pains when it moves to make way for a new federal courthouse this summer.
There's no guarantee the historic building will still be in one piece after its trip across Market Street in downtown Salt Lake City. After all, it's old, big, heavy and already crumbling in spots. The structure will also have to make a 180-degree turn, a difficult move considering its age...



http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9079760?source=rss



It would be a tragedy if it did collapse. I would blame the cube. Lets hope it stays together!

So they are going to pick the whole thing up and move it in one piece?
I would have thought it would be safer to take it apart piece by piece and rebuild it on the new site.

Also, are there any plans for the building once it is moved?

[Scraperdude801]

I would be devastated if it crumbled. Especially if it crumbled by foul play. I hate the federal government and their cube. The government "for the people, of the people" has become arbitrary.

... "THE CHURCH": I totally understand what Urbanboy is saying. I also think that it is worthy to note that Roman Catholics refer to the Roman Catholic Church as "The Church". This phrase is nothing new, and I never found it confusing when put into context. I think of the phrase in the terms of a regional dialect. Those in Utah know the term "The Church" when spoken by LDS members refers to the LDS church and those outside of Utah realize when they hear the term "The Church" spoken by Catholics it refers to the Roman Catholic Church. It is a phrase that is relative, and something that makes Utah unique. I don't think the phrase should be renounced. You wouldn't go to England and tell the pharmacist to stop answering to the title of "chemist" because it is a title that has a different meaning elsewhere (America). My point is that the term "The Church" is a case of regional dialect. I am not LDS myself, but I realize that this entire Utah territory was founded by Mormons as a theocratical paradisical society. When you realize how much they have given up to outsiders who didn't embrace their viewpoint, I think it is reasonable to allow them to retain some of their regional dialect without throwing a fit.


Just my two cents. ... Now can we get back to development?

[urbanboy]

You are appealing to tradition, which is a fallacy of argument. Let us all just be more specific. It is not that difficult to type "LDS" before the word church. Again, it is arrogant not to do so.

[esirhgih]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

You are appealing to tradition, which is a fallacy of argument. Let us all just be more specific. It is not that difficult to type "LDS" before the word church. Again, it is arrogant not to do so.

Urbanboy-
Its pretty obvious to everyone else that you have a huge chip on your shoulder toward "the church." No matter how much you rant nobody is going to start using your nomenclature in their speech or posting, because nobody is confused by it and nobody but you seems to care. Please stop going on about this.

[T-Mac]

Get over it Urbanboy, he was simply stating his opinion on the matter and you go off on him about the fallacy of his thoughts. Give me a break. I am going to continue to post photos of the building and call it by its given name whether you like it or not. If you don't like it, that is your opinion.

[urbanboy]

Even I use fallacies of argument sometimes. Please don't get so upset with my bluntness. My request is not unreasonable.

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

Even I use fallacies of argument sometimes. Please don't get so upset with my bluntness. My request is not unreasonable.

Yes it is. Stop bringing it up.

...Seriously dude, just get over it.

[urbanboy]

I'm not trying to create enemies, Really, it's not that difficult to specify which church is being discussed. In this particular case, all that is needed is "LDS."

[T-Mac]

Alright back to development.

From The Enterprise

"The owner of the Westgate Business Center and Westgate Lofts in downtown Salt Lake City has purchased a 3.25 acre parcel on the northeast corner of 100 South and 300 West, Salt Lake City, where plans call for the development of a high-end hotel, retail establishments, apartments, condos and office space."
They also said that part of the parcel (1.5 acres) will be sold to a Las Vegas hotel group that is going to build a high quality hotel there. It will not be 5 stars but will operate like a 5 star hotel. Richard Gordon, who is the owner, also said that he has an option on the Utah Paperbox site and that long-term plans call for dividing the area into 4 "mini-blocks" with small one-way roads, similiar to Gateway. Long-term plans call for high-rises for condos, apartments and office buildings. They are talking with Boyer to see if they want to get involved. Specific plans are being worked on and until finalized it will remain a parking lot.

[Viperlord]

Awesome news Tmac... that will go well in that location. I know that the pricetag for this parcel must have been really expensive. I have talked with my ticket broker at the ESArena many of times about this parcel. Word has/had it that Larry Miller wanted to buy the parcel for a parking structure, but the guy wanted to much money for it, and was going to hold out as long as he could.

Also, I received this from the MetroParkWest condos group....

"Thank you for showing interest in Metro Park West. These condominiums willbe located at 342 S. 400 W. and will have a total of 71 units, 30 withprivate rooftop terraces. The square footage will range from 700 sq. ft.and will go up to 1300 sq. ft. We do not have exact pricing at this time because construction will notbegin until June of 2008. We anticipate having units priced between$270,000 up to approximately $600,000. All of these units have either 2 or3 bedrooms. You may put your reservation in at any time to hold a spot foryourself in our sales event; the sooner you put your reservation in, thehigher you will be on the list. You can download the reservation form fromour website www.metroparkwest.com and mail it, along with the $1,000 checkto:

Attn: Nerissa McDowell308 W. Broadway #LL2Salt Lake City, UT 84101

You may also stop by our office to put in a reservation (please call fordirections). All checks should be made payable to Security Title. Anyadditional information will be posted on our website at www.allenmillo.comas we get closer to construction. You will also be able to find moreinformation on all of our other properties, as well, on this website.Please feel free to contact me with any other questions or concerns thatyou may have."

[delts145]

Wow, the awesome news just keeps coming.

[urbanboy]

That is great news! However, the northeast corner of 100 S. and 300 W. doesn't seem to fit the description. That is the location of the Japanese Church or Christ.
P.S. Notice how I specified which church it is.

[RFPCME]

Nice to talk about development again instead of nomenclature.

[T-Mac]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

That is great news! However, the northeast corner of 100 S. and 300 W. doesn't seem to fit the description. That is the location of the Japanese Church or Christ.
P.S. Notice how I specified which church it is.

That is the address. That corner is a parking lot. The other corner on 200 West has the church.

[urbanboy]

Originally Posted by T-Mac

That is the address. That corner is a parking lot. The other corner on 200 West has the church.

That would be the Buddhist Temple...

[SLCforme]

I agree with Urban boy, the north east corner of 300 W. and 100 S. can't be the right parcel as it is not even 3.25 acres, at least I do not think it is as our city blocks are 10 acres right? And it is definitely less than 1/3 of a block. I wonder if they meant the south west corner as that is the same block that Westgate business center and lofts are on, as is Utah Paperbox company. that must be it.
And Urbanboy, when I refer to a church I always specify which church, though if others do not then that is their prerogative, and also their fault if there is confusion.

[Scraperdude801]

I think the adress is a typo. There was an article posted about this potential development a couple pages back on this thread. I believe this is the northeast corner of the block that is bordered by 300 W - 400 W and 100 S to 200 S. Let me see if I can pull up the original article.

[T-Mac]

Sorry Urbanboy, you are correct. The article is wrong in that it states the northeast corner but I assume they were referring to the southeast corner of 100 S and 300 W.

[DENrising]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Awesome news Tmac... that will go well in that location. I know that the pricetag for this parcel must have been really expensive. I have talked with my ticket broker at the ESArena many of times about this parcel. Word has/had it that Larry Miller wanted to buy the parcel for a parking structure, but the guy wanted to much money for it, and was going to hold out as long as he could.

Also, I received this from the MetroParkWest condos group....

"Thank you for showing interest in Metro Park West. These condominiums willbe located at 342 S. 400 W. and will have a total of 71 units, 30 withprivate rooftop terraces. The square footage will range from 700 sq. ft.and will go up to 1300 sq. ft. We do not have exact pricing at this time because construction will notbegin until June of 2008. We anticipate having units priced between$270,000 up to approximately $600,000. All of these units have either 2 or3 bedrooms. You may put your reservation in at any time to hold a spot foryourself in our sales event; the sooner you put your reservation in, thehigher you will be on the list. You can download the reservation form fromour website www.metroparkwest.com and mail it, along with the $1,000 checkto:

Attn: Nerissa McDowell308 W. Broadway #LL2Salt Lake City, UT 84101

You may also stop by our office to put in a reservation (please call fordirections). All checks should be made payable to Security Title. Anyadditional information will be posted on our website at www.allenmillo.comas we get closer to construction. You will also be able to find moreinformation on all of our other properties, as well, on this website.Please feel free to contact me with any other questions or concerns thatyou may have."

Wow, these prices have really climbed for downtown property. And to think I had to pinch dimes and nickels four years ago to get what was at the time the nicest, best condo available (it is a 3 bdrm) one block from the TRAX line and two blocks from Trolley Square for under $135k! I might as well be lying in gold!!

Thanks for the update!!

[Scraperdude801]

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8976716
I found the article, it was originally posted by Viperlord. The following is from the article:

Perhaps the boldest change could come east of The Gateway on the block bordering the new 400 West Planetarium TRAX stop and 300 West.
Property-owner Richard Gordon, who is unveiling the Westgate Lofts on 200 South, is working with city planners to dice the block into four chunks - complete with two new through streets. He wants to add shops, bistros, offices and more lofts when Utah Paperbox makes its move to Glendale in four years.
And a boutique hotel, perhaps a W, is planned by a Las Vegas development group that recently bought three acres on the block's northern end.
Gordon says the goal is to make the once-impenetrable parcel walkable. "We'll tie comfortably into the mall and the convention center and the arena," he predicts, "so it ties these four blocks together."