The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[mylesmalley]

I think ALL the buzzwords are getting annoying. Hub is one...but BOOM is the worst. Growth is important, but booms are always followed by a bust.

And while i'm at it, i really resent how the city council meetings are opened with a prayer. our seperation of church and state means that christian groups can't have nativity displays at city hall, but prayer at public meetings is okay?

anyway, that's just me.

[mmmatt]

Im assuming the building/buildings they are reffering to will go here:


Credit: Google Maps, me (red lines in paint)

sorry for the cruddy quality but I dont have my fancy 700$ image editor at work haha

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by HalifaxMtl666

Sounds good. Moreover, the same company "Ste-Anne Street Holdings " has a plan for Main street. I just wondering in which part of Main the land is located.

REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER

6.2 Tentative Plan of the Amending Ste-Anne Street Holdings Inc. Subdivision, Main Street

http://www.moncton.org/agendas/2008/A20080421.pdf

Interesting...I guess we will have to wait and see about this, hopefully its an urban residential project, but who knows, might be nothing

[ErickMontreal]

Originally Posted by stu_pendousmat2

Im assuming the building/buildings they are reffering to will go here:


Credit: Google Maps, me (red lines in paint)

sorry for the cruddy quality but I dont have my fancy 700$ image editor at work haha

Thank you for the map. If those buildings getting built, It could benefit high-visibility of being located along the Wheeler Blvd.

[Wishblade]

Originally Posted by JasonL-Moncton

Why is it a load of crap?

We have the fastest growing population base in NB.

It is the largest freight moving center in NB.

There is more 'entertaining' things to do in Moncton than most places in NB.

We definitely have the largest retail footprint in NB.

The only one I might have a problem with is 'energy' hub, but someone might explain that one.

Dictionary.com defines a 'hub' as: a center around which other things revolve or from which they radiate; a focus of activity, authority, commerce, transportation, etc.

So what is the load of crap?

Jason

Well, to call it the hub of the maritimes In all these things would be false. NB maybe, but definately not the maritimes as a whole.

[ErickMontreal]

Originally Posted by Wishblade

Well, to call it the hub of the maritimes In all these things would be false. NB maybe, but definately not the maritimes as a whole.

Agreed, claiming that is misleading and wrong.

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by Wishblade

Well, to call it the hub of the maritimes In all these things would be false. NB maybe, but definately not the maritimes as a whole.

We are by no means the economic hub of the maritimes but we do have a sizable stake in the "transportation hub" category, with Purolator and FedEx having thier maritime HQs at YQM and Armour Transport based here etc.

[acrew79]

We are the HUB Figuratively and Physically..

A hub is a centre point by which all ways have access..

Moncton is the only city "centrally" located that is access able to all 3 Maritimes Provinces.. and you could even stretch it to NL..

we are 5 hrs from Quebec border,, 3 hrs from US border.. 2 hrs from any other major city in the Maritimes..

and for that matter.. if any commercial vehicle wants to transport goods to any other MAJOR destination in ATLANTIC CANADA they have to pass through MONCTON..

so yes.. moncton is the HUB of the Maritimes..

not to mention we got our nicname when CN used to have their HUB here when all rail trains passed through moncton.. hence why the military made moncton the home of # 5 Supply depot ( easy access to transport , and short distance to everywhere)

thanks..

just my opinion..

[Haliguy]

Yes, Moncton is the hub geographically. I'm not sure about Figuratively.

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by acrew79

We are the HUB Figuratively and Physically..

A hub is a centre point by which all ways have access..

Moncton is the only city "centrally" located that is access able to all 3 Maritimes Provinces.. and you could even stretch it to NL..

we are 5 hrs from Quebec border,, 3 hrs from US border.. 2 hrs from any other major city in the Maritimes..

and for that matter.. if any commercial vehicle wants to transport goods to any other MAJOR destination in ATLANTIC CANADA they have to pass through MONCTON..

so yes.. moncton is the HUB of the Maritimes..

not to mention we got our nicname when CN used to have their HUB here when all rail trains passed through moncton.. hence why the military made moncton the home of # 5 Supply depot ( easy access to transport , and short distance to everywhere)

thanks..

just my opinion..

Very true Acrew, Moncton is, as I said, a hub for transportation...However what the Halogian (sp) is reffering to is hub in a broader sence, for example Moncton cannot compete with Halifax in terms of economy as they are more than 3 times our size in that regard. Also Halifax has a massive airport and a large port as well. Halifax is the a center for government as well. And much more, which goes along with being the largest city by far in the area.

Im not saying Moncton is not a hub, as it most certainly is, in a geographical sence as you mentioned, we are the center of the maritimes, which is why he have such sucess with large concerts, as we are able to draw from all sides.

[ErickMontreal]

The new buildings planned for Arden and Reade Streets will be built.

The 64-units will be a 5-story and the 32 will be a 4-story. Moreover, the coating will be in bricks and those buildings going to include a underground parking.

Great medium-sized project.

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by HalifaxMtl666

The new buildings planned for Arden and Reade Streets will be built.

The 64-units will be a 5-story and the 32 will be a 4-story. Moreover, the coating will be in bricks and those buildings going to include a underground parking.

Great medium-sized project.

Good to see that part of town being built up. Should make for an impressive building if it's right at the top of the hill near the hospital.

[Smevo]

All the buzzwords are getting annoying, and all the Irving-owned papers are using them. The T&T, the TJ, even the Daily Gleaner in Fredericton is getting in on the act.

As for opening city council meetings with a prayer, Moncton's not alone. CBRM does it as well. Nice in theory, but outdated unless it's truly non-denominational. That said, the experience I've had with non-Christian religions is that they interpret Christian prayers in things like weddings and funerals in a way that it is for their own religion as well. However, I'm no expert on this, just as far as those I directly know which is a very small sample of the non-Christian population.

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by HalifaxMtl666

The new buildings planned for Arden and Reade Streets will be built.

The 64-units will be a 5-story and the 32 will be a 4-story. Moreover, the coating will be in bricks and those buildings going to include a underground parking.

Great medium-sized project.

Awesome! Mark another nice medium sized project for this year...thats the second new project in two weeks! not bad

Ill have to add it to my list of 5+ story buildings when its done, along with the Marriott

[mylesmalley]

More cash, more seats for Moncton stadium
Facility will now feature 10,000 permanent seats, offer full capacity of
By Mary Moszynski
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Tuesday April 22nd, 2008
Appeared on page A1
Provincial and federal officials will be in Moncton today to commit additional funding towards the new stadium for the city as it prepares to host the 2010 World Junior Track and Field Championships.

Fundy Royal MP Rob Moore and Premier Shawn Graham will make the announcement at Université de Moncton this morning. They will be joined by Moncton Mayor Lorne Mitton and UdeM President Yvon Fontaine.

Details of the funding are unknown, but a government source confirmed the money will create additional seating at the stadium.

"With the new redesign, capacity's going to be going up to 10,000 permanent seats," said the source. "It's going to allow for temporary seating as well. The full capacity will be 28,000 people."

The officials will also participate in a sod-turning on the site for the stadium.

The stadium on the Université de Moncton campus is scheduled to be completed by spring 2009. The first tender for the stadium was issued earlier this month.

The former Conservative provincial government committed $5 million towards the project, of which $3.5 million is for capital costs, while the federal government promised $6 million.

The International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) games will be by far the largest event Metro Moncton has ever hosted, drawing more than 1,700 athletes from around the world. It will also be the largest athletic event ever to be held in Atlantic Canada and will spill beyond the boundaries of the City of Moncton.

Moncton had initially bid to host the 2008 games. In March, 2006, the IAAF awarded that bid to Bydgoszcz, Poland. However the delegates were so impressed with Moncton's bid the city was awarded the 2010 games.

[JasonL-Moncton]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Good to see that part of town being built up. Should make for an impressive building if it's right at the top of the hill near the hospital.

Umm if you look at the map it's not at the 'top' of the hill it's at the bottom, near Wheeler and area that is in desperate need of improvement. That area has become really run down and needs a 'boost' to allow it to rejuvenate.

[kwajo]

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to stir up any argument with my comment about the use of the word "hub". I didn't intend to make any statement about whether or not Moncton is geographically central to the Maritimes, I only meant to say that I'm tired of the word "hub" being used to describe everything, and that I find it to be an annoying buzz word. I think Smevo understood what I was getting at, in that the newspapers in NB love to coin new terms to describe their respective cities, even if they don't really serve any purpose whatsoever.

if any commercial vehicle wants to transport goods to any other MAJOR destination in ATLANTIC CANADA they have to pass through MONCTON..

Why would a shipment landing in Halifax have to go through Moncton on its way to Sydney, or the same from Saint John trucked on its way to Fredericton?

Let's not go crazy here guys, Moncton is a major air freight and land fright locale, but not everything in the region passes through there. After all, the ports in Halifax and Saint John both handle insanely large tonnages of cargo and raw goods coming from overseas, because you can't ship in things like automobiles or petroleum via an airplane (well maybe a train, but you get my point).



EDIT: forget I wrote that last paragraph, I realize it will just cause more pointless arguing. Let's all have a group hug and celebrate the invention of propagandist buzz words!

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by kwajo

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to stir up any argument with my comment about the use of the word "hub". I didn't intend to make any statement about whether or not Moncton is geographically central to the Maritimes, I only meant to say that I'm tired of the word "hub" being used to describe everything, and that I find it to be an annoying buzz word. I think Smevo understood what I was getting at, in that the newspapers in NB love to coin new terms to describe their respective cities, even if they don't really serve any purpose whatsoever.



Why would a shipment landing in Halifax have to go through Moncton on its way to Sydney, or the same from Saint John trucked on its way to Fredericton?

Let's not go crazy here guys, Moncton is a major air freight and land fright locale, but not everything in the region passes through there. After all, the ports in Halifax and Saint John both handle insanely large tonnages of cargo and raw goods coming from overseas, because you can't ship in things like automobiles or petroleum via an airplane (well maybe a train, but you get my point).

I knew what you meant...I was just responding to what Wishblade said

EDIT: (now that Im quoting your edit haha)...yeah it is obviously impossible for EVERYTHING to go through Moncton, but we do handle a lot of transport, we have many major distribution warehouses for the region (Super Store, Coca Cola, Christie etc etc)...and we have nearly the largest amount of freight traffic at our airport, only slightly trailing Halifax (which is obviously an indicator in itself when expressed in a "per capita" equation)...also we hande a lot of rail traffic as you said cars and all that, we have massive parking lots near the rail yards where they unload cars and then send them out on trucks to all over Atlantic Canada. And then with Armour (and Pole Star), Midland and Keltic based here you can kinda see where this is going.

But yes, to the point of your original post, buzz words suck haha

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

More cash, more seats for Moncton stadium
Facility will now feature 10,000 permanent seats, offer full capacity of
By Mary Moszynski
Times & Transcript Staff
Published Tuesday April 22nd, 2008
Appeared on page A1
Provincial and federal officials will be in Moncton today to commit additional funding towards the new stadium for the city as it prepares to host the 2010 World Junior Track and Field Championships.

Fundy Royal MP Rob Moore and Premier Shawn Graham will make the announcement at Université de Moncton this morning. They will be joined by Moncton Mayor Lorne Mitton and UdeM President Yvon Fontaine.

Details of the funding are unknown, but a government source confirmed the money will create additional seating at the stadium.

"With the new redesign, capacity's going to be going up to 10,000 permanent seats," said the source. "It's going to allow for temporary seating as well. The full capacity will be 28,000 people."

The officials will also participate in a sod-turning on the site for the stadium.

The stadium on the Université de Moncton campus is scheduled to be completed by spring 2009. The first tender for the stadium was issued earlier this month.

The former Conservative provincial government committed $5 million towards the project, of which $3.5 million is for capital costs, while the federal government promised $6 million.

The International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) games will be by far the largest event Metro Moncton has ever hosted, drawing more than 1,700 athletes from around the world. It will also be the largest athletic event ever to be held in Atlantic Canada and will spill beyond the boundaries of the City of Moncton.

Moncton had initially bid to host the 2008 games. In March, 2006, the IAAF awarded that bid to Bydgoszcz, Poland. However the delegates were so impressed with Moncton's bid the city was awarded the 2010 games.

AWESOME!! Thats the second expansion they have made since this was originally announced, 28,000???!! Thats insane, and good to see the permanent seats double too, that will be great for getting future events to come here easier.

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by stu_pendousmat2

AWESOME!! Thats the second expansion they have made since this was originally announced, 28,000???!! Thats insane, and good to see the permanent seats double too, that will be great for getting future events to come here easier.

Anyone know what Rocky Stone field and Saint Mary's can hold?