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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 2:58 PM
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In response to yours... you should'a kept a lid on the "hickville" remark

Is anything else I wrote incorrect ?
     
     
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AeroSvit of the ukraine will operate 3 flights this summer over the Kiev-Edmonton route this year as charters.The first flight will operate on July 10th using a leased EuroAtlantic 767-300.

These are possibly a ''test'' by the airline to ''expiriment'' with new potential markets.

Ukrainian tour operators are offering the service.
I hope they serve borscht and pyrohy(perogies for your English speaking people) on the flights.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 3:36 PM
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In response to yours... you should'a kept a lid on the "hickville" remark

Is anything else I wrote incorrect ?
The hickville comment was not about Edmonton, but the drive to the airport where you are in the middle of no where. YEG reminds me of some small airport that services a larger Canadian centre. The city and province should do more to make this airport connected to the city. Bus service is not the answer.

I know Calgary is researching railines to Okotoks and Airdrie, is this an option for YEG?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 3:43 PM
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^ 9 km's from the limits of a city with 1,000,000 people is the middle of nowhere ?

YEG is the fastest growing airport in Canada, And port Alberta is going to bring a lot of activity to the site. EIA could be a couple of K's closer to the city, but what's the point ? THe drive from the Ellerslie overpass to the Airport is literally ten minutes. I think it's better to have a bit of a buffer between the airport and residential neighborhoods.

There is talk of using the rail line from the city ot EIA once the CN (?) line is decommissioned. But as with Calgary's rail plans, this is a long ways off.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 3:49 PM
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AeroSvit of the ukraine will operate 3 flights this summer over the Kiev-Edmonton route this year as charters.The first flight will operate on July 10th using a leased EuroAtlantic 767-300.

These are possibly a ''test'' by the airline to ''expiriment'' with new potential markets.

Ukrainian tour operators are offering the service.
great to hear!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 3:52 PM
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Yes...~10 minutes longer from downtown to YEG as opposed to downtown to YYC. However YYC feels far closer.

YEG is doign just fine and those that think it is a "small" airport anymore are out to lunch. Canada has small airports in general outside of MTL, TOR, VAN.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 4:13 PM
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Yes the Aerosvit charters are welcome, only 3 flights this year but who knows about next?

You want a airport to complain about travel times to and from lets look at my hometown airport YYZ.I hated the commute 5 days a week taking on a good day a hour and a half but most of the time darn near 2 hours.

YEG is not that far from Edmonton, I know because I lived in a city were the airport was far...
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 4:23 PM
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There are lots of airports far out. YEG isn't that bad except for the feeling you are driving to Red Deer to catch a flight.

It is a good location, especailly for a manufactoring / shipping point. YEG will be Western Canada cargo airport soon I believe.
     
     
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To those who think YEG is so far away from Edmonton, might I suggest you travel a little more. Here are airports that I have visited in my travels that were far from the city centre.

Asia
1. Tokyo - There is over an hour train ride to the city centre (no stops).
2. Kuala Lumpur - Once again a long train ride (no stops)
3. Bangkok - I believe it over an hour by highway.
4. Osaka - Again it was an hour train ride.
5. Singapore - Long Train Ride

Europe
1. Munich - This one is a distant train ride as well
2. Paris - Charles De Gaulle Airport is quite a ways from Central Paris.
3. London - Heathrow is again a ways from the centre.
4. Copenhagen - Same thing

United States
1. Denver - This airport is litterly in the middle of nowhere.
2. Seattle - Again its a fair drive from Seatac to downtown.
3. Miami - Same thing.

Canada
1. Halifax - Its more than double the distance from the centre.
2. Toronto - Yes, Pearson is just as far from downtown as YEG is.
3. Montreal - Same thing with Trudeau airport.

Now some of you will argue there is nothing between Edmonton and the airport vs say in Toronto but that does not change the fact that the airport itself is just as far from downtown. Other ones I have listed have less on the way than Edmonton does. Difference is in Europe and Asia for example there is a train that takes you into the city and the highways are lit all the way. Other than that the distance is just as far in all these places or even further.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 4:44 PM
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Just let it be heared that I said "feel" not that is literally to far out. This is an age old arguement up there that is stupid. I was not meaning to stir that point. I was meaning to state that there are things that should be done to make the Airport feel like it is part of the city of Edmonton.
     
     
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Just let it be heared that I said "feel" not that is literally to far out. This is an age old arguement up there that is stupid. I was not meaning to stir that point. I was meaning to state that there are things that should be done to make the Airport feel like it is part of the city of Edmonton.
Seems like this "age old argument" is mostly perpetuated by people who don't live here.

I don't know how you're going to make the airport "feel" closer to the city. QE2 is the provinces' responsibility & I can't seem them lighting the freeway into Edmonton... What do you suggest ?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 5:34 PM
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Hmmm.... Actually it is made by persons from Edmonton. And those that use the facilities a lot.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 5:35 PM
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Edmonton International Airport
Passenger Statistics for March 2008

Highlights

Overall 546,901 passengers (March) and 1,557,416 (YTD)
Domestic 410,641 passengers (March) and 1,168,581 (YTD)
Transborder 91,687 (March) and 232,419 (YTD)
International 54,573 (March) and 156,416 (YTD)
Rolling 12 Month 6,189,069

Growth%

Overall 8.2% (March) and 8.6% (YTD)
Domestic 3.6% (March) and 5.2% (YTD)
Transborder 11.8% (March) and 10.6% (YTD)
International 51.3% (March) and 39.5% (YTD)
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 5:39 PM
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Hmmm.... Actually it is made by persons from Edmonton. And those that use the facilities a lot.
The only locals I hear complaining are the ones who want to see the CC stay open.

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Good numbers so far. The international growth is notable. Should keep us with the title of "fastest growing Airport" for at least another year
     
     
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Mexicana to join oneworld alliance

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05:14 pm - Wednesday
Mexicana to join oneworld alliance
Los Angeles, Usa - Its fleet is composed of 62 aircraft
(WAPA) - "Mexicana is to join oneworld®. Mexico and Central America’s leading airline today accepted a formal invitation to become part of the world’s leading quality airline alliance after being unanimously elected on board by the grouping’s existing ten member airlines, which include some of the biggest and best names in the industry.

Its subsidiary Click Mexicana will join at the same time, as an affiliate member of oneworld.

Their joining process is expected to take 12 to 18 months to complete, with Iberia supporting Mexicana through these tasks, as its prime oneworld sponsor, assisted by American Airlines.

So Mexicana and Click Mexicana will be flying as part of oneworld in 2009, when they will start offering the alliance’s full range of services and benefits to their own customers and those from their new oneworld partners.

For Mexicana, joining oneworld will strengthen its competitive offering and its financial position. For oneworld, adding Mexicana will expand the alliance’s network in Mexico and Central America, and enable it to build further on its positions as the leading airline grouping serving Latin America and the leading Spanish-speaking alliance.

oneworld is already the only global alliance with any airline members based in South America - through LAN Airlines and its sisters LAN Argentina, LAN Ecuador and LAN Peru. American Airlines is the leading airline serving the region internationally, and Iberia is the leading carrier between Latin America and Europe.

Mexicana’s addition to oneworld comes after a year which has seen the alliance complete its biggest yet expansion drive, with 11 airlines joining in 2007 - Japan Airlines, Malév Hungarian Airlines and Royal Jordanian as full members and, as affiliates, LAN Argentina, LAN Ecuador, Dragonair and four other carriers in the Japan Airlines group.

Mexicana’s invitation to join oneworld was sealed at a ceremony today attended by its Chief Executive Officer Manuel Borja with his counterparts from all ten of oneworld’s established member airlines and oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch during a meeting of the group’s Governing Board in key alliance hub Los Angeles.

Mexicana is the biggest non-US airline operating at Los Angeles, which is its biggest hub outside Mexico.

Mexicana with the Click Mexicana network will add 26 destinations to the oneworld map - 24 in Mexico plus Bakersfield (California, USA) and Edmonton (Canada).
With the alliance’s existing members serving 11 points in Mexico, its addition will expand to 35 points the alliance’s network in Mexico, which is the world’s 11th most populous country, the 12th biggest economy and the seventh most popular tourist destination, attracting more than 20 million foreign visitors a year.

oneworld’s existing members already serve almost 110 airports throughout Latin America. Mexicana’s addition will extend that to more than 130.

Globally, its addition will expand the alliance’s network to approaching 700 destinations in nearly 150 countries, with a combined fleet of 2,350 aircraft operating almost 9,500 flights a day, carrying 333 million passengers, with annual revenues of USD 100 billion.

In the months ahead, Mexicana will adapt key internal process to conform with oneworld requirements, link its IT systems to those of its oneworld partners and carry out an extensive employee training and communications programmes, to ensure that their staff worldwide are ready to provide oneworld’s customer services and benefits from day one.

Once all its pre-joining requirements are sufficiently progressed, an exact date in 2009 will be confirmed for it to join.

Besides Mexicana Chief Executive Officer Manuel Borja, Iberia Chairman and Chief Executive Fernando Conte and oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch, scheduled to attend today’s ceremony were:
• Qantas Chief Executive Officer Geoff Dixon (current chairman of oneworld’s Governing Board)
• American Airlines Chairman and Chief Executive Gerard Arpey
• British Airways Chief Executive Willie Walsh
• Cathay Pacific Airways Chief Executive Tony Tyler
• Finnair Chief Executive Jukka Hienonen
• Japan Airlines Group Chief Executive Haruka Nishimatsu
• LAN Group Chief Executive Enrique Cueto
• Malév Chief Executive Peter Leonov
• Royal Jordanian Chief Executive and Deputy Chairman Samer Majali.

Mexicana is the carrier in Mexico and Central America.

With Click Mexicana, it serves 63 destinations in 11 countries. Mexicana itself flies to 46 destinations in 11 countries, including 18 destinations in Mexico. Click Mexicana’s network encompasses 23 destinations in Mexico, plus Havana (Cuba). The two airlines both serve six destinations in Mexico, giving them a joint domestic network covering 34 airports.

Mexicana operates a fleet of 62 aircraft - 30 Airbus A-320s, 20 A-319s and ten A-318s, and two Boeing 767s - making 300 departures a day. Mexicana offers two classes - Executive and Economy - with in-flight entertainment screens throughout the fleet and complimentary in-flight meals and drinks in both cabins. It has the two-letter airline code MX.

Click Mexicana operates 18 Fokker 100s, making 115 departures a day. Its single cabin offers a 'Coach plus' style of service, with leather-covered seats at a 35 ins (89 cm) pitch. It offers complimentary in-flight drinks and snacks. Click Mexicana has its own flight code (QA) but all its flights also carry Mexicana’s MX code under a code-sharing agreement.

Mexicana boarded 9 million passengers in 2007, with Click Mexicana carrying another 2.2 million. Between them, they employ 6,725 staff.

Mexico City is the airlines’ main hub, with Cancun and Gaudalajara secondary hubs.

Mexicana has signed a contract to move its main IT platforms to Amadeus Altea - alongside oneworld partners British Airways, Finnair, Iberia, LAN, Malév Hungarian Airlines and Qantas, with Cathay Pacific also committed to transfer to this provider soon.

Its two most important bilateral alliance relationships are with oneworld’s American Airlines and Iberia, including code-sharing, frequent flyer links and through check-in. It also has established bilateral relationships with four of the alliance’s other existing partners - Cathay Pacific (frequent flyer), Japan Airlines (frequent flyer, code-sharing and through check-in), LAN (frequent flyer and through check-in) and Qantas (code-sharing, frequent flyer and through check-in).

Among its most recent awards, it was named World Travel Awards’ Best Airline Mexico and Central America for the tenth year running, Best Business Class Latin America for the third year running and Best Internet Site in Latin America (all in 2007), and Best Airline in Mexico for two years running by Global Traveler magazine.

Mexicana is one of the world’s most experience airlines, opening service in July 1921.

It was privatised in December 2005, and is now owned by a consortium of Mexican private investors". (Avionews)
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 7:09 PM
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great numbers....go yeg go
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 9:53 PM
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A oneworld carrier at YEG finally, this could have some spinoff's.

Edmonton Also becomes a new Oneworld city.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2008, 9:57 PM
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So with Mexicana going to One World.... and Mexicana coming to YEG... does that equal more possibilities for other One World partners hooking up with YEG as well? I'm not sure how that all works!?

EDIT: Tuffyy seems to have answered my question already....
     
     
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A oneworld carrier at YEG finally, this could have some spinoff's. Edmonton Also becomes a new Oneworld city.
Exactly my point in posting...birds of same feathers attract each other...shared services et al.
     
     
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A oneworld carrier at YEG finally, this could have some spinoff's.

Edmonton Also becomes a new Oneworld city.
This is good and perhaps it could lead to more?
     
     
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