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Old Posted Apr 2, 2008, 2:13 AM
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Cameco has sent out an RFP to a couple of developers. They have the site picked out. So it IS supposed to happen.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2008, 6:08 AM
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Cameco has sent out an RFP to a couple of developers. They have the site picked out. So it IS supposed to happen.
There's no chance you could tell us the site, is there? Or narrow it down to a couple?
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There's no chance you could tell us the site, is there? Or narrow it down to a couple?
My money is on the large lot adjacent to the Galaxy Cinemas...kitty corner from Lake Placid's River Landing development.

     
     
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But where are the farmers going to park their diesel one tons when they come into town to see a picture show?
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My money is on the large lot adjacent to the Galaxy Cinemas...kitty corner from Lake Placid's River Landing development.
That looks about right. They originally wanted Lake Placid's site.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2008, 3:16 PM
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Mayor Don.

Go listen to the podcast from today's Gormley show where he talks with the two big city mayors.
Thanks for the link, Crazy Don also said the city will be putting out some RFP's for "high density housing" downtown. I wonder how dense they are thinking?
     
     
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Thanks for the link, Crazy Don also said the city will be putting out some RFP's for "high density housing" downtown. I wonder how dense they are thinking?
30+ stories would be welcome. Developers would be wise to take advantage of our excessive housing prices.
     
     
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I have added some blobs to SASKFTW's map of where I would like to see a Cameco tower. More density and height is needed in the core.

     
     
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2008, 3:41 PM
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I was looking for an article that appeared in the Star Phoenix several days ago that suggested the Saskatchewan Party is completely ignorant of Saskatchewan urban issues (we must educate them quickly ), anyways I searched the blogosphere (the Star Phoenix search function is very limited) and here it is.

Government's actions signal trouble ahead
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Published: Saturday, March 29, 2008

If, as is generally the case, the Saskatchewan Party used its first budget to set the tone for its administration, the province has a growing list to worry about.

Rather than appear to be competent managers of the public purse, Premier Brad Wall's team has been extravagant in its spending, ham-handed in its communications strategy and incompetent in its delivery.

The latest in a series of embarrassing events include a budget-day announcement of the disruption of hundreds of jobs that now apparently was made in error, and the deliberate cancellation of a much-lauded inner-city redevelopment project in Saskatoon.

That no one from Wall to Health Minister Don McMorris to Finance Minister Rod Gantefoer can get their stories straight about why a previously made provincial commitment of $8 million to the Station 20 project, which would bring, among other things, medical, dental and community services to one of the most stressed neighbourhoods in Saskatchewan's largest city, does little to foster confidence in their ability to manage public money.

Until now, the government has requested patience from Saskatchewan citizens, suggesting the four months since it took office wasn't enough time to properly redirect the flow of cash. But this excuse is wearing thin.

Four months is more than enough time for Social Services Minister Donna Harpauer to understand how a major shakeup in her ministry would impact on the hundreds of lives affected by the "four-year modernization strategy" planned for its financial assistance division.

For Harpauer to suggest on the one hand that she approved the first year of the strategy while opposing the rest, and on the other hand to claim she wasn't by ministry officials what was going on, is to ask Saskatchewan residents to suspend all belief. It took the employees but minutes to figure out what was happening after some 400 of them were summoned to a special meeting scheduled to coincide with the March 19 delivery of the provincial budget.

If even after four months on the job the minister was still unable to grasp the ramifications in this case, it casts doubts on her ability to understand how her ministry's other policies impact on the lives of Saskatchewan's most vulnerable citizens.

At least Harpauer is consistent in her proclamations of ignorance. There, however, was no such consistency among politicians when it came to the slashing of the grant to Station 20, which was made a year ago by the former NDP government. Gantefoer offered one reason for the cut, McMorris another and the premier yet a third. Separately, they made little sense. Taken together they look more like a raft of juvenile excuses rather than part of a coherent plan to run the province.

Gantefoer believed the grant was cut because there was little chance the proponents of the project could raise the "$12 million to $14 million" needed to come from private interests. By next day he was admitting he was in error, and the necessary private funds were a minuscule portion of that amount.

Even more incredibly, McMorris suggested the money had to be pulled from a project that would make it easier for inner-city residents to access timely health care because the funds were needed to buy a fire alarm for St. Paul's Hospital and to ward off a mould attack. The decision, he assured us, had nothing to do with politics.

At least Wall's weak excuse was credible, if only because it illustrated an ideological basis to the ill-considered decision. The premier suggested the grant was killed because his government saw the inclusion of a co-operatively run grocery store within Station 20 as a threat to private industry.

But to cancel the entire project rather than deal directly with the situation is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

When the NDP absurdly castigated Wall for giving his 14-year-old daughter driving lessons on a publicly owned rural gravel road, it demonstrated just how far out of touch with rural Saskatchewan that party has become.

But Wall's clear lack of understanding about the dire needs of core neighbourhoods and the history of Saskatoon demonstrates just how out of touch he remains with urban Saskatchewan. Considering the role the province's largest city is playing in the economic revival of Saskatchewan, such ignorance could have dire consequences.

The proponents of Station 20 want a grocery store not because they want to compete with private industry but because many people in core neighbourhoods don't have the wherewithal to keep hiring cabs to go shopping. The last of the downtown grocery stores left more than a decade ago.

To ignore such realities for the sake of political partisanship and ideological reasons is an inauspicious beginning for a government that Saskatchewan people hoped could lead them to a prosperous future.

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I have added some blobs to SASKFTW's map of where I would like to see a Cameco tower. More density and height is needed in the core.

The 22nd and 3rd location is a prime candidate for tall tower construction.

I'm on the fence with respect to construction of a large tower on the vacant lot across from the Bessborough Hotel, a building less than 20 or even 15 storeys might be more appropriate...not every vacant lot in Downtown Saskatoon needs a 30+ storey tower, it is nice to have some variation, but larger buildings may feel imposing and sometimes distract or fail to interact harmoniously within the existing environment.

Imagine the different heights of an office or residential tower overpowering or complimenting the surrounding structures (the Bessborough).


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However, our downtown does seem restricted (total area), perhaps along Idylwyld Drive, Toys R' Us parking lot (but there is existing Midtown mall u/g parking, so might be tricky), and several large lots in North downtown as well might be suited for larger towers.

Perhaps I am just afraid of change
     
     
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Most of the highlighted areas are gravel or paved parking lots, with the exception of the area at the corner of 24th Street E and 4th Avenue N.



I didn't highlight the smaller parking lots which tend to locate next to one or two storey businesses...there is a measurable amount of such arrangements in central downtown.
     
     
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The 22nd and 3rd location is a prime candidate for tall tower construction.

I'm on the fence with respect to construction of a large tower on the vacant lot across from the Bessborough Hotel, a building less than 20 or even 15 storeys might be more appropriate...not every vacant lot in Downtown Saskatoon needs a 30+ storey tower, it is nice to have some variation, but larger buildings may feel imposing and sometimes distract or fail to interact harmoniously within the existing environment.

I agree, Something needs to be built here that compliments the area. The streetscape would be great if a 10-ish building was here. I completely forgot that cameco was planning a very TALL tower..

I do however disagree with you on your second point. Every vacant lot in the downtown DOES need a 30+ tower...
     
     
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i think the best location would be on third and 19th street east, that part of the downtown always seems more dull to me and plus it would fill the huge gap between the lake placid and the renaissance towers. but that won't happen so i think the movie theatre empty stall would look nice

and ctrlaltdel how do you know all of this?
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stick to traditional downtown, if this is going to be a thirty story tower, it would be better in the middle of downtown, and anyways, we should continue to develop our core downtown before we expand.
     
     
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In regards to Cameco, I thought they were renting office space in bayside, so by consequence, maybe the parking lot accross from bayside is the chosen site

I love the level of speculation on this blog
     
     
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What's happening to the 2nd Ave Lofts?

Hi all: I thought this was the best place to ask about this.

Do any of you know what's going on with the 2nd Ave Lofts conversion of the old Bay (or Eatons?) building?

When I first moved here in 05 I was told I should buy one of their units, but decided not to. I had a friend who put down a deposit on a unit while their sales office was up and running; in the Fall of 06, when they'd done a mock-up 'model unit' powered by extension cords and heated with portable fans, he was told that the price had risen substantially and he needed to give them a 20% downpayment to 'hold' his spot. At this point there was no evidence of work in the building -- they hadn't started on the top story and there were no workers or piles of materials anywhere. I assumed they were trying to raise money to finish the project from pre-sales.

He got his deposit back and bought a condo in a conversion on the east side.

This is the month that the purchasers were supposed to take possession: although they've done the top floor, there doesn't seem to be anything happening with the building itself. There's an sign up that they're hiring drywallers, but other than that, no sign of life. Meanwhile, the King George hotel is booming merrily away.

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Hi all: I thought this was the best place to ask about this.

Do any of you know what's going on with the 2nd Ave Lofts conversion of the old Bay (or Eatons?) building?
Hi there

Yeah, the 2nd Avenue Lofts seem to progressing very slowly, some info I found posted a few pages back...

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I recall an inquiry a few days ago. Here is the lowdown from someone who is waiting for their condo to be built.....me.
The latest email we all got in January indicated that the project is behind schedule.....we knew that. The reason is a labour shortage and rising costs......we knew about that too. The plan was to put owners into their units from the top floor down, beginning in March. That means that they would complete the 5th floor first, then the 4th, and so on. Owners would complete the transaction and move in, with the 2nd floor owners last in line. As the developer could only close around 30 transactions per month.....people like me on the 2nd floor could anticipate a July close.
Are you following me so far?
But now, this plan is off, due to safety factors. The developer cannot move in people gradually, and that means that no deals will be closed until the project is finished in July.....or maybe August......who really knows.
We also know that the developer is holding some 30 units...to be put on the market in the Spring. We have seen the new prices and they are well into the 300k range. Good for us as this represents a significant increase over the original purchase price from 2006.....50-70%
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2nd Ave Lofts

Pure speculation here... I hate to say it, but the 2nd Ave Lofts look like they're on their way to becoming the next Five Corners condos. When there's no progress for so long and no credible information forthcoming from the developer, the project has got to be in trouble. I think the developers got in way over their heads with this one, and they might not be able to complete it. Perhaps I'm wrong and maybe they will somehow pull it off... but I'm doubtful about that.
     
     
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There was a very good article in Saskatoon Home Magazine: http://www.saskatoon-home.com/privacy.php / But It isn't available online, which details all the warehouse building condo conversions happenening in the city. The King George, Eatons, Bay, and The Rumely. To the best of my knowledge they are going to happen. It is fairly slow going, but that is the way construction is. It takes a year to build a house in the city these days. To convert condo's it may take 2, who really knows. We need labour from out east, there is no doubt about that.
     
     
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2nd Ave Lofts

Hello everyone! So I have been following the forums for quite some time and have decided to join! I'm living in Calgary for the time but shall be moving back home to Saskatoon in August which is exciting. I recently read a comment about the 2nd Ave lofts and how they look a bit stagnent. I emailed the 2nd Ave lofts and they said that people shall be moving in this summer! How exciting! As well has anyone heard about what's going on with the building which the bassment was in? Also has anything happened with the proposed building to go up beside Mykonos?
     
     
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