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Old Posted Apr 6, 2008, 5:40 AM
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Exactly which one?
The other one.
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whoa is colemonkee a forum mod now?
I am indeed. I'm mod like an Aarnio ball chair. Or a Vespa.

My first order of business as a mod will be to thoroughly abuse the privilege to post a gratuitous photo update. Pics of the Ritz Carlton, 717 Ninth, Concerto and LAPD HQ are in their respective threads in Highrise Construction and General Development.

My second order of business will be to call London and ask them to take their weather back.

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by Stephen Friday on April 4, 2008
Well said, Friday. This view was much different 12 months ago. Now imagine it 12 months from now.



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717 Olympic

Slowly applying the finishing touches. But to their credit, they were hard at work on a Sunday.




LA Live





This part of the facade looks like it will have more glass, which is a welcome change from the walled off facade at the corner of Olympic and Figueroa. This should help energize the building a bit from Olympic.



Here's an interesting development. Notice the fire truck outside this apartment building on Olympic and Francisco, right across the street from the Club Nokia/Grammy Museum building. I asked one of the firefighters what was going on, and he said this building is slated for demo soon, so they ran some drills in it. This parcel is part of the LA Live development area, and I believe a hotel is planned for it. So maybe we'll see some movement on this?

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I've always liked the brown tower on the left in your first shot. What building is it? I like all the indentions in the facade. Good color too.
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THANK GOD we have our very own LA moderator now. I always wanted colemonkee to be a mod.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2008, 1:09 AM
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I've always liked the brown tower on the left in your first shot. What building is it? I like all the indentions in the facade. Good color too.
That's the TCW Tower, designed by AC Martin Partners, who had a hand in designing more downtown LA towers than any other firm. The facade is a red granite, and it catches light pretty well, as k3d expertly demonstrated with his sunset shot a few pages back. It always reminded me of the Bell Atlantic Tower in Philadelphia, but with a more awkward top. They have a similar massing and facade colors, but the Bell Atlantic is taller, and has a much better crown, IMO.

717 Ninth (the left-most building under construction in that pic) will have greenish glass that gradates slowly as it rises. That should contrast really nicely with the reddish-brown of TCW and Promerica Tower, the shorter reddish building just to the right of TCW in that picture. I really can't wait to see how that facade looks. I love it when architects consider a building in it's future context when designing it, as opposed to just plopping a random design in there.
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Someone needs to put together some of the old pics from this thread with the new ones to show the progress, especially with Hanover, Evo and 717 Ninth
     
     
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Someone needs to put together some of the old pics from this thread with the new ones to show the progress, especially with Hanover, Evo and 717 Ninth

On that same note -

Not sure which building this was taken from or the year, but it would be great if someone could retake this picture to compare the changes that have taken place in South Park.


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This is about the time I started following SSP, and there are quite a few changes since this picture was taken.
     
     
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^It appears it would have had to have been taken from the City National Bank tower based on the location/altitude. I'm guesstimating about 2 years ago.
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Here's an interesting development. Notice the fire truck outside this apartment building on Olympic and Francisco, right across the street from the Club Nokia/Grammy Museum building. I asked one of the firefighters what was going on, and he said this building is slated for demo soon, so they ran some drills in it. This parcel is part of the LA Live development area, and I believe a hotel is planned for it. So maybe we'll see some movement on this?

^OMFG!!! I think you just made citywatch's decade, if not life. He's gonna cream his pants on this news!
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LADowntowner. The City National Bank tower is 8 meters shorter than the 777 Tower and if that pic were taken from atop the CNB tower you wouldn't be able to see the helipad on the 777. The only towers that are taller than the 777 would show the AON or the US Bank Building in the front. Since I see Figueroa, Flower, Hope and a bit of Grand, if it were taken from the US Bank Building it would show the AON. My guess is that picture was taken from the top of the AON. (I'm twisted here but I hope that made sense, lol)
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2008, 3:18 AM
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^ RuFFy's got it. That pic has to have been taken from AON Center, or a helicopter. Based on the location just west of Hope, I'd say it's AON Center.
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^OMFG!!! I think you just made citywatch's decade, if not life. He's gonna cream his pants on this news!
Hey Guys, Long time no comment.
My best to ThreeHundred, even though he left us alone here to deal with certain...ahem...problems.
Anyway, as to this "soon to be razed" building...is this where they were talking about a "Marriot Boutique Hotel" being located? It is right across the street and the site plan. I think RAlossi has commented in the blog on it here.

http://blogdowntown.com/2008/01/3091-marriott-to-create-the-los-angeles-edition

Let me know if you guys know anything more about it. Or that phantom LA Central.
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LADowntowner. The City National Bank tower is 8 meters shorter than the 777 Tower and if that pic were taken from atop the CNB tower you wouldn't be able to see the helipad on the 777. The only towers that are taller than the 777 would show the AON or the US Bank Building in the front. Since I see Figueroa, Flower, Hope and a bit of Grand, if it were taken from the US Bank Building it would show the AON. My guess is that picture was taken from the top of the AON. (I'm twisted here but I hope that made sense, lol)
I think you have a very valid point there, and AON was my initial suspicion. I second guessed myself, didn't check the facts and screwed up. Where I really screwed up is placing AON one block further east than it is (in my mind). I noticed the top of 777 too and didn't verify whether CNB was taller than 777 or not. Lesson learned, check the facts before shooting off at the mouth. Truth be told I was being lazy, having arrived home from a four hour hike up to about 4,500 feet.

I'm sure you're right. Good work, Ruffy! Whatcha think about the date?

Hehe... a helicopter crossed my mind too, colemonkee, but I dismissed it...
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Perhaps the oxygen is slowly working it's way back to my brain...

Worse yet, on further thought, I also placed CNB one block east (again, in my mind) than where it's really at - west side of Flower. Oh the shame, the humiliation. Not sure if I can show my "face" again here...
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Hey Guys, Long time no comment.
My best to ThreeHundred, even though he left us alone here to deal with certain...ahem...problems.
Anyway, as to this "soon to be razed" building...is this where they were talking about a "Marriot Boutique Hotel" being located? It is right across the street and the site plan. I think RAlossi has commented in the blog on it here.

http://blogdowntown.com/2008/01/3091-marriott-to-create-the-los-angeles-edition

Let me know if you guys know anything more about it. Or that phantom LA Central.
(grins)
I'm still lurking about. My mission of schooling Floridians about the wonders of LA is going along smoothly. How I miss California though. Florida has done nothing for me except:

-Ravage my allergies unlike anything ever

-Sent swarms of mosquitoes the size of Apache helicopters my way

-Abused me with her hot wet air

-Confused the hell out of me with her 8 lane non freeways

-Peacocks, herons, and squirrles waking me up each and every morning at 7am with their rendition of 'The Sound of Music'

-Getting sandblasted with 40 mph winds while trying to swim in the Gulf of Mexico

-Trying to convince me that Tampa and surrounding areas is the real 'Bay Area'

-Realizing that Tampa will forever be in the shadow of Miami

But on the bright side, I did get to go jet sking with a pod of about 50 wild dolphins.

Anywho..

Isn't it interesting in a sad way that there is more progress on a building that we don't even know what looks like (Marriot Boutique Hotel) then a project we've known about for years (LA Central)?
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Some interesting developments this week in the Downtown News. I'm surprised no one's posted them yet.


http://www.downtownnews.com/articles/2008/04/07/news/news05.txt

Music Center Annex to Be Replaced
Building up to 10 Stories to Rise Across From Cathedral

by Rod Riggs

Bunker Hill, long a site of dramatic construction projects, is in line for yet another. The Music Center will replace its forlorn Annex building on the northwest corner of Grand Avenue and Temple Street, officials have announced.

The 1950s-era structure housed the County Coroner's office until that activity was moved to the county health center. Various contractors used the building until it was turned over to the Center Theatre Group in 1967 for offices and workspace.

"What had been the morgue became rehearsal space," said Stephen D. Rountree, Music Center president and chief executive.

The Annex project was described by Music Center Chairman John B. Emerson at the annual Shining Stars program honoring volunteers at the performing arts hub. He led up to the disclosure by describing progress of the Music Center's present construction.

The $30 million renovation of the Mark Taper Forum is on budget and on time, he said. The first new production will take place in September.

However, the planned remodel of the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion will be put off until 2012 because Los Angeles Opera has contracts for performances until then.


"If there is to be a substantial revision of the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, requiring replacement of the offices now in the building, then we need to relocate them," Emerson said.

Present thinking is to tear down the low-slung Annex and replace it with "something more in keeping with the neighborhood," Emerson said. "The area under consideration would be rebuilt into an exciting new building for offices and rehearsal space for use by the Center Theatre Group and the leadership of the Music Center."

The Music Center board is considering a 150,000-square-foot building of six to 10 stories.

"It would be scaled to be an appropriate neighbor to the Cathedral" across the street, Rountree said.

In addition to rehearsal rooms and studios for dance, opera and theater, it would have offices and a new feature, a small "black box" theater - one with simple amenities and flexible design - for educational programs.

"It's very expensive to use the larger theater for such programs," Rountree said.

Fitting Architectural Neighbor

The project would sit near the northern end of a rapidly changing Grand Avenue. Immediately north of the principal Music Center campus, it would face the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels and be within walking distance of the under-construction $232 million High School for the Visual and Performing Arts. It would be less than two blocks from Walt Disney Concert Hall and the coming $3 billion Grand Avenue development.

Although the Music Center board has not employed an architect, Rountree said, "Obviously the building will have to have some architectural character appropriate to a neighborhood that includes the new performing arts high school, the Cathedral, Disney Hall and MOCA."

The County, which operates the Music Center, has "blessed the concept," he added.

"We don't have the money yet, but hope the financial picture will come together by the end of summer. We expect to complete the project by 2012 so we can move the staff and free up the Pavilion for the work to be done there," Rountree said.

Meanwhile, work continues on the Mark Taper Forum, the 1967 cylindrical venue that has hosted many of the Music Center's more adventuresome productions. The 745-seat theater will see expanded restrooms and a lounge on the lower level. It will also allow for a larger lobby.

In the auditorium, theatergoers will find new seating with green upholstery. Sight lines are also being improved.

Backstage dressing rooms have been moved to a lower level. Additional space came from removing a "treadmill" installed at the rear of the building to move scenery, but never used. Revision of the ventilation system provided more overhead space. Wardrobe and props now can be stored on site.

"There is the safety factor of less crowded conditions plus, some artists just did not like the backstage," Rountree said. An unexpected benefit was that a wheelchair ramp added in the 1990s can be made nearly level with the new configuration.

"It will be a dramatic change," Rountree said, even though the exterior of the building has not been altered perceptibly. In fact, Jacques Overhoff, the artist who created the sculpture relief that runs around the top of the edifice, has been located and is expected to observe restoration of areas that have suffered damage over the years.

The renovation of the Taper is expected to be complete by July, and the building will reopen to the public Sept. 14 with the premiere of John Guare's dark comedy The House of Blue Leaves.

The Ahmanson Theatre was remodeled in the mid-1990s, leaving just the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion to be brought up to date.

"We need to relocate the staff from the building. They don't need to be sitting next to the stage," Rountree said. "Meanwhile, there is a lot of work we can do without closing the building.

Architects and engineers are analyzing the 45-year-old Dorothy Chandler Pavilion to see what must be done to bring its lighting and sound systems up to date. The renovation may near completion in 2014, Rountree said.
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First United Church Plans $75 Million High-Rise

The First United Methodist Church of Los Angeles is in the preliminary stage of planning a $75 million, mixed-use project on church-owned property at 1010 S. Flower St. in South Park. The project, to be developed by the church in collaboration with a team led by developer David Houk, is expected to include a 14-story apartment tower with ground-floor retail and a 500-stall parking structure. In exchange for the development and ground lease rights, Houk's team will also build an adjacent 30,000-square-foot church building with a chapel, sky sanctuary, offices, a kitchen and an outdoor patio. The development will rise on the site of the former church building at Flower Street and Olympic Boulevard, which was demolished in 2002. Last year the church put out a call for development proposals, and the complex now being considered was one of three finalists announced in September. The project is in a preliminary stage and plans could change, said Houk, who is also developing the planned Park Fifth project near Pershing Square. The development team for the church project has not been finalized and must be approved by First United's board of directors before any work can begin, which could happen by the end of this month. Once a team is in place, it is expected to take approximately 18 months to obtain city approvals, said consultant Richard Gentilucci of BTG Advisors, who is helping to broker the agreement. Construction is projected to take 18 to 24 months. "We need the church's needs met, we need the developer's needs met, and we need it to pencil out," said Rev. Sandie Richards, minister at First United. "Those are the three elements that have to be in place before we can move forward with the deal." She added, "The great cathedrals of Europe took over 100 years to build. We kind of feel like, in the light of that timeline, we're willing to give this the time it needs because we want it to be a lasting project."
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Im actually quite interested in how they design the church. A nice steeple would be cool
     
     
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