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Station 20 West money being diverted: gov't official
Janet French, TheStarPhoenix.com
Published: Friday, March 28, 2008

About a quarter of the money once intended for the Station 20 West non-profit development will be used instead to pay down the Saskatoon Health Region's deficit, a government official said Friday.

Earlier this week, the Saskatchewan Party government admitted it would no longer hand over the $8 million once intended for the $12-million to-$14 million development in Saskatoon's inner city. The NDP had approved the funds for Station 20 West, which would house a low-cost dental clinic to train senior dentistry students, a medical clinic, public health and counselling clinics, a co-operative grocery store and other community organizations.

Jean Morrison, vice-president of performance excellence and chief nursing officer for the Saskatoon Health Region, said the provincial government had given the health region the $8 million to hold in trust for Station 20 West while the organizations involved worked on more detailed plans.


Jean Morrison, vice-president of performance excellence and chief nursing officer for the Saskatoon Health Region
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On budget day, however, the government changed the designation for that money, leaving it open for capital projects in the health region.

The region has no power to decide how that $8 million will be spent, Morrison said.

"We can't spend it until they can tell us how we can spend it," she said of the Ministry of Health.

Louise Greenberg, associate deputy minister of health, said about $6 million of that money will be spent on urgent capital needs in the health region, including $1.1 million for new hospital air conditioners, $1.4 million to replace the fire alarm system at St. Paul's Hospital, $1.6 million to replace an aging CT scanner at City Hospital, and money to upgrade ambulance equipment and to buy transportation equipment to accommodate morbidly obese patients.

More than $2 million will go toward paying off the $8.7-million shortfall the Saskatoon Health Region has accumulated in the first 10 months of its 2007-08 operating year, Greenberg said. "This is being used to address their deficit, too."

That deficit is expected to climb to $10 million once the region tallies its expenses to the end of March.

The region began running over its $704-million budget when a nursing shortage bumped up overtime and sick time expenses in a period when demand for emergency services and hospital care is growing. The region's aging laundry facility also broke down. It spent more than $1 million shipping dirty linens to Prince Albert and Regina for washing and another $450,000 to repair the facility.

On Friday, Morrison only knew how $3 million of the $8 million would be spent.

Some of the repairs the diverted money will pay for are immediately needed, she said. Aging fire alarm systems at both Royal University and St. Paul's Hospitals have failed in the past year, she said. Alarms would sound in only part, not all, of the hospitals, and the magnets that were supposed to turn off and shut the building's doors to contain any fire did not work properly. For a couple of days at RUH, and three weeks at St. Paul's, extra security guards were hired 24 hours a day to patrol the hospitals, listening for fire bells and alerting the rest of the hospital and closing doors if an alarm did sound.

"It's really tough decisions that government has to make with allocations of dollars," Morrison said. "We're certainly pleased to have the money to fix the fire alarms, because in buildings where we have two and three hundred patients, it is a huge concern for us. Things like chillers, if we don't have chillers (air conditioners) that are running, and end up overheating our diagnostic imaging equipment, that ends up costing us more."

"We elect government, and I have to trust that they're making the best decisions based on the direction they're setting," she added.

However, a major health region-led study released in late 2006 showed residents of Saskatoon's low-income neighbourhoods had dramatically higher rates of hospitalizations for some health problems, mental illness and more sexually transmitted infections. The region has since put extra resources into Saskatoon's inner city, such as school fitness programs and immunization clinics, to begin combating the disparities.

Mark Lemstra, a senior research epidemiologist with the health region, was the lead author of the Saskatoon study showing the link between low income and poor health.

He said it's "disappointing" if the province has simply cut the Station 20 West funds without another plan to give inner-city residents better access to medical care.

"What we don't know from the provincial government is, is there a bigger plan in place?" he said. "All that we know is they've cut this one project. Are they working on another plan to come up with a new way of doing it?"

Diverting money for more nurses and mental health and addictions counsellors to work in inner-city schools would be a welcome addition, he said.

"A lot of this money was going towards a building. None of that money was intended for services. Perhaps the government is intending for that money to go towards services."

Health Minister Don McMorris also told reporters Thursday that leaky and moldy long-term care homes are higher on the government's priority list than funds for Station 20 West.

Morrison explains that care homes in Watrous and Lanigan both have leaky roofs. In Lanigan, workers must continually shovel snow off the roof to prevent unplanned indoor showers. In the summer, water also leaked inside one wall of Parkridge long-term care home, resulting in mould growth. The region had to seal off between eight and 11 rooms and replace the drywall, which took at least three months. That was only a temporary fix, she said.

It will cost the region millions to do permanent repairs to the Lanigan, Watrous and Parkridge buildings, she said.

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I still don't understand why we must choose between maintenance of existing buildings or construction of new buildings...Ready for Growth? No we are not.
     
     
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Sorry Toon town, but that's one of the ugliest projects i've ever seen on this forum. You guys have it right with River Landing, but you should let the developer settle with a single colour before building this beast.
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Sorry Toon town, but that's one of the ugliest projects i've ever seen on this forum. You guys have it right with River Landing, but you should let the developer settle with a single colour before building this beast.
Yeah I'm not so sure I'd be so disappointed with funding being pulled on that hideous thing.
     
     
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Sorry Toon town, but that's one of the ugliest projects i've ever seen on this forum. You guys have it right with River Landing, but you should let the developer settle with a single colour before building this beast.
Fair enough, but if you saw the area it was supposed to be in, a little colour would be a good thing.
     
     
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Fair enough, but if you saw the area it was supposed to be in, a little colour would be a good thing.
Most these types of places look better in real life than they do in the concepts too. The colours seem to simmer down a bit in the context of the real world.
     
     
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also, those renderings are different from others i have seen, i actually quite like the original prososal.
     
     
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Well, whether you like the colours or not, it's very disappointing to see another project cancelled in Saskatoon. This city needs more development, what the hell is going on?
     
     
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Yeah, it is incredibly disappointed that this is supposedly being cancelled....especially since no one from the Sask Party can get their facts straight about what Station 20 is and what their finances are like (they only need to raise 4 million dollars...and have yet to launch their fundraising campaign...and despite this they have already received promises of over a million dollars in donations...which would allow them to get a 1.5 million dollar mortgage...putting them in great shape).

and in regards to the colours/ design, I think it could be good...the housing that has already been built has the same mix of colours and they look great....though I do agree with jonitecture, I liked the previous rendering more.
     
     
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Saturday's paper had a plan for the Mcnab Park redevelopment. Anyone who likes parking and low-rise office blocks will love it.
     
     
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I might be able to have a peek. It all depends on how long I can keep a 3 year old interested.
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I might be able to have a peek. It all depends on how long I can keep a 3 year old interested.

Any easier than a two year old?
     
     
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Saturday's paper had a plan for the Mcnab Park redevelopment. Anyone who likes parking and low-rise office blocks will love it.

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McNab Park changes hands
New deal struck for development of business park
Murray Lyons and Cassandra Kyle, The StarPhoenix
Published: Saturday, March 29, 2008

An unnamed Calgary investment group is taking up the challenge of converting an orphaned housing development near the airport into a profitable business park.

Less than a month after saying McNab Park wasn't for sale as it was in 2007, Gil Dobroskay of Guardian Commercial Real Estate said a brand new deal was concluded this month which he said could move a conceptual plan drawn up for a 50-acre mix of office space and hotels closer to reality.

However, Dobroskay said there are infrastructure issues and final zoning changes that need approval so people who rent a unit within the low-cost, air force-style housing that has been McNab Park for more than a half century will not likely have to move out imminently.

In fact, he said it may be as many as 18 months before concept plans are approved by city hall and the city builds a new sewage connection from the site to a large trunk sewer line that is meant to serve Hampton Village and future residential projects to be built farther west.

"All the tenants who have been there a long time, we try to keep them up to date," Dobroskay said. "We don't have a lot to tell them except the game plan is still the same."

Tenants received notice of the change in ownership on Friday via a written notice delivered to the rental units.

McNab Park was sold last summer to an Edmonton buyer with Saskatchewan roots who had backing from other family members in Saskatoon. They bought the property from Larry Braun, who had owned McNab Park since 1998.

Dobroskay said Thursday the Edmonton buyer had worked to develop a conceptual plan, but sought other possible investors to help bring those plans to fruition.

Earlier this year, the property was again listed for $16.75 million.

In an interview earlier this month, Dobroskay said the property was listed on Guardian's website in an effort to bring new investors to the table, but in the end the latest buyers from Calgary decided they wanted the entire investment.

"With the concept plan that has been done up to date, these guys felt it would be better to go ahead on the project on their own," Dobroskay said Thursday.

Based on current construction costs of $250 per square foot or more and the fact the conceptual plan calls for a business park with office space of 1.8 million square feet, McNab Park could easily be a project with more than $300 million to $400 million of investment over time, the Realtor said.

"If you look around every other jurisdiction in North America, you're going to find the areas around airports are going to be developed in industrial, warehousing or offices related to the airport or offices for commuters who are using the airport," he said.

With companies, including uranium producer Areva Resources Canada, located less than 100 metres from McNab Park housing and looking to expand, Dobroskay said he expects there will be demand for airport area office space, plus the possibility of extended-stay hotels.

"There are a number of different companies and groups that have it in their plans in the next two to four years that need new office space and the city can't supply that now," he said. "If anyone is going to build anything, it's a minimum of two to two-and-a-half years to build.

"Timing is everything, especially with the economy the way it is."

For now, the Realtor said the new buyers are open to giving city officials working on affordable housing issues the time to decide whether it is possible to move the houses that sit on McNab Park to new foundations in an area such as Hampton Village where they could then be renovated.

While it is up to the city's affordable housing staffing to make it happen, the commercial real estate agent said he is hopeful the solidly built townhouses can live on in a different location.

"With the demand for affordable housing and the money that is now becoming available through various levels of government, I think there is a good chance for success on that," Dobroskay said. "If those buildings can be relocated for less money than building new, then why not?"

Alan Wallace, manager of neighbourhood planning with the City of Saskatoon, said the Calgary-based company is quite interested in moving the park's six-unit structures to a new site and have made an agreement with the current owner to purchase the buildings. The city is interested in working on a demonstration project with the new owners to move other buildings, such as the two-unit dwellings, to the same new site to show them how they could be fixed up and re-used.

The Calgary owners, he said, have a large interest in rental properties.

"The concept of doing this really makes a lot of sense in that they can re-use the housing stock, they'll be providing affordable rental stock in Saskatoon and we're certainly behind that idea, but the devil being in the details -- that's what we really need to get down to now," Wallace explained.

The city expects to receive the company's written proposal for the site sometime in early April, he said.

When it comes to moving the homes, a public consultation will likely take place -- especially if the homes are to be moved into an existing area, Wallace added, saying public support will be needed to make the plan work.

"They're light on details but big on ideas," Wallace said about the company. "It sounds good to us, anything that can be re-used off that site would be great."

The president and CEO of Saskatoon's airport authority, Bill Restall, welcomes the business park development, saying the early proposal seems compatible with the airport.

"Because of the activity, aircraft noise, we like to see a buffer between the airport and residential, and commercial development space works well for that," Restall said. "It's a nice balance."

The idea of a hotel in the McNab development zone isn't too much of a surprise, he said, adding he'll leave it up to the developers to decide whether it would be economical or not.

"There have certainly been a significant number of hotels that have found it advantageous to be located near an airport," he said. "The people have to make a decision relative to the market opportunity that they perceive."

More than 100 rental units are located in McNab Park.

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^Look at that beauty. All the best elements of 20th century urban design gathered together in one plan that seems to say "even if you actually work here, it's highly doubtful you would want to ever set foot here".

Too bad there aren't a plethora gravel parking lagoons downtown where one might construct office buildings.
     
     
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^Look at that beauty. All the best elements of 20th century urban design gathered together in one plan that seems to say "even if you actually work here, it's highly doubtful you would want to ever set foot here".

Too bad there aren't a plethora gravel parking lagoons downtown where one might construct office buildings.
There are both good and bad elements associated with this proposal.

Let us be honest, it may not be downtown, but it does make use of underutilized valued land; residential land aside, much of McNab Park is open fields located within the existing urban or if you like suburban environment (this development should not be considered fringe development as it is still relatively accessible by transit, auto, or bicycle).

Conveniently located near the airport as well as existing and emerging employment centers; North Industrial, Airport Industrial and land zoned for a business park just east of developing Hampton Village...think transit use, commute times, cycling to work.

Of related importance: I think most observers (you, I, city planners, developers) see Saskatoon divided as residential primarily in the south, east and west, and employment areas primarily located in the core and expanding north towards city limits (Downtown/University/North Industrial). If agreeable, and we continue to encourage these kinds of concentrations we can expect certain areas will see higher densities of activities (living, working) and depending on your perspective should support more frequent transit service and create increased traffic congestion.

A problem or concern I have with the above observation/assumption is we will also continue to have certain neighborhoods comprised of a certain demographic (this is true for many cities), this may encourage favorable trends (if you can call them that; neighborhood concentrations of wealthy, educated) at the expense of unfavorable trends (neighborhood concentrations of low income, low level of education).

I don't profess to know in detail how segmentation might be good or bad for the health of our city, but we may not want our future urban environment developed this way...I guess the point I am trying to get across is mixing our citizens might be a healthier alternative socially, but there may be perceived economic losses associated with such a vision (e.g. property values stagnant, decrease???).
     
     
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Are the Prairies Running Dry? Dr. David Schindler Lecture

April 3, 2008
Are the prairies running dry? The Network in Canadian History and Environment welcomes Dr. David Schindler, Killam Memorial Chair and Professor of Ecology at the University of Alberta on April 3 for his lecture, "Are the Prairies Running Dry? Western Canada's Freshwater Supply in the 21st Century."

Dr. Schindler will discuss how natural drought, climate warming, damage to drainage patterns and human water demands will cause water shortages in the prairies in the next few decades.

Relevant and riveting, this important event is sure to draw a great deal of interest. Please join us on April 3.

Date: Thursday, April 3, 2008
Time: 4:00 pm
Place: Convocation Hall, College Building, University of Saskatchewan

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Mayor thinks Cameco will be moving downtown.
     
     
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^ Mayor of ?, Where did you hear this?
     
     
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Mayor Don.

Go listen to the podcast from today's Gormley show where he talks with the two big city mayors.
     
     
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don always says cameco is moving downtown, i will believe it when i see it
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