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This really makes our brown boxes look like shit, not like they look good anyway..
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Nice! More height would be even better!
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Fantasy Proposal - Miami's Axxis towers in Saskatoon


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...the poor ol' funeral home.
     
     
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...the poor ol' funeral home.
And the Milroy apartments (currently in a court battle over condo conversions) if I am not mistaken.

Edit: nope, that's over Boardwalk's Carlton Towers.

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I did a little searching around and found the new rendering for the River Landing proposal. Looks like quite an improvement if you ask me.



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^Nice find! Thanks for posting.

That's a very welcome addition in my eyes. I love this proposal a bit more every time I see it. Like honestly, they're gonna build that in Saskatoon!?!

I can't wait to see it grace our riverbank.
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The article in the paper today doesn't say much about the new building or any new access to the plaza. I want more details on this thing.
     
     
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The article in the paper today doesn't say much about the new building or any new access to the plaza. I want more details on this thing.
I would just assume that there would be a new access point between the hotel and the new 5 story office building.
     
     
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I'd say that's a safe assumption, but how are we supposed to be critical of it when we don't even really know what it looks like?

I like the curvature of the building though, it looks good so far.

I hope they can get started as soon as possible.
     
     
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thank god remai cancelled theirs, imagined what we would have missed.
i completely love this building and i may be wrong but i heard it is starting in around 60 days
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i like this development. i am not to big of a fan with what they have done so far with the rest of river landing (excluding the farmers market) the five story building doesnt look like anything special, but it fits nicely with the rest of there proposal (obviously)
     
     
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thank god remai cancelled theirs, imagined what we would have missed.
i completely love this building and i may be wrong but i heard it is starting in around 60 days

You can say that again! Originally I thought Remai's was not that bad, but now I know it was a complete piece of shit. I think I have been accustomed to the mediocrity in this city. Hopefully a few other classy developments will follow.
     
     
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I almost wish Lake Placid would have designed and developed all of River Landing. Oh well, I can live with this proposal. My hope is that once this project is done that we'll see more developments by LP and similar companies with some sense of architectual asthetics, instead of the usual brick and stucco.
     
     
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You can say that again! Originally I thought Remai's was not that bad, but now I know it was a complete piece of shit. I think I have been accustomed to the mediocrity in this city. Hopefully a few other classy developments will follow.
Ya and remember how much of a tragedy we thought it was when Remai pulled out? At the time it seemed like River Landing had no chance of success without that crummy spa hotel.

I have faith that this gorgeous Lake Placid development will attract more quality developments. With Lake Placid as the new standard, developers might be looking to meet or exceed what Lake Placid has brought to the table.

Absolutely outstanding proposal.
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Ya and remember how much of a tragedy we thought it was when Remai pulled out? At the time it seemed like River Landing had no chance of success without that crummy spa hotel.

I have faith that this gorgeous Lake Placid development will attract more quality developments. With Lake Placid as the new standard, developers might be looking to meet or exceed what Lake Placid has brought to the table.

Absolutely outstanding proposal.
I have to agree. Those were very dark times and I thought River Landing was finished. It looked like no other options were out there. Boy was I wrong.
Lake Placid is truly a breath of fresh air. I am so excited I may even bring a shovel down and help dig the hole. Great times for Saskatoon.

Absolutely outstanding proposal - your absolutely correct Country.
     
     
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Let's get moving on Lake Placid's downtown project
Murray Lyons, The StarPhoenix
Published: Friday, March 14, 2008

The letter writers and opponents of anything commercial ending up on the sacred River Landing site may have to stop derisively making a "Calgary developer" reference when they heap scorn on the Lake Placid Group proposal.

Michael Lobsinger grew up in Saskatoon. Presumably, he didn't just make up a resume that displays two degrees from the University of Saskatchewan. Indeed, in his Saskatoon public homecoming speech this week, the former boy from Munroe Avenue talked about his days at Holy Cross High School, where he fondly remembered Catholic educator James Mahoney (later a bishop) telling the young Lobsinger he wouldn't amount to anything.

Whether Mahoney was joking or merely practising reverse psychology can't be known, but as with many people who enjoy a school's social scene more than their teachers might want to see, Lobsinger ended up succeeding in a business he obviously loves.

One of the oddities of the property development game is that while it can be lucrative, people would do it even in times of recession, so addictive is the process of assembling land and trying to do deals.

LOBSINGER HAS TRACK RECORD IN SASKATOON

Almost 10 years ago, the city sponsored a symposium on downtown housing and brought in consultant Armin Preiksaitis from Edmonton, who had a joke slide in his PowerPoint presentation showing a developer holding up a sign that said: Will Develop Property For Food.

Lobsinger was involved in Saskatoon downtown real estate in the late 1970s, the last time the city was in a real estate boom. He was responsible for developing two downtown office buildings that both featured atriums. One of these buildings on Fourth Avenue now has accounting firm Meyers Norris Penney as its main tenant while the other, across the street, is sometimes referred to as the Standard Life building, but was most recently purchased by Affinity Credit Union.

Flash forward to 2008. Lobsinger is back, ready to get going on what may be the biggest integrated real estate development ever seen in Saskatoon. Fortunately, the city is again in an economic and real estate boom and a $200-million project is not so jaw-dropping. Heck, the fabled south bridge will probably cost more than that.

As for his more recent resume as a developer, Lobsinger's company is just completing a large redevelopment project in Kelowna, B.C., and has two projects on the go in Calgary, including one in the downtown.

Lobsinger seems to have done well with this Saskatoon project so far, jumping all the hoops to meet the city's request for proposals (RFP). This week he heaped praise on Mayor Don Atchison, city manager Phil Richards and special projects manager Chris Dekker. He also met with the Meewasin Valley Authority to kiss hands.

MOVING IN RIGHT DIRECTION

The problem remains at the River Landing site where the city, despite good intentions, has boxed itself in a number of times on the policy front.

There is no question Lake Placid sees the original RFP, which sets development controls on the site, as too restrictive on the height any hotel can be and the ultimate quality of the "corporate flag" that hotel could carry. There could be additional delays if new hearings are required on whether a hotel at the site can be 10 storeys instead of eight. How silly!

Since Lake Placid's proposals were unveiled last year, there have been suggestions of what kind of developments we might see in the rural acreage areas bordering the city, with one developer talking about much higher density. That would be a mistake. Nothing could be more ridiculous than having lineups of cars coming out of Grasswood from a cluster of condo towers or closely bunched townhouses.

While some people in Saskatoon have criticized Lake Placid for not fully committing to today's low energy LEED standards for the River Landing project, Lobsinger argued having people live downtown next to where they work is itself one of the greenest things a city can do compared to creating more suburban sprawl.

"Height is greening. Density is greening," he argued. "You take a 20,000-square-foot piece of ground and you build a tower and you can put 200 homes out there. Or you build roads, you build transportation and build those homes on 50 acres. . . . What's cheaper? What's greener?

"Take the 20,000 square feet and go up. Every major city in North America is doing that. Why are we afraid of it?"

Hopefully we aren't afraid of it and soon Lake Placid will break ground on a viable commercial project rising up beside the river, just as Lobsinger envisions.

Putting people downtown to work, live and play is exactly what the city was hoping for as far back as 1997, when the city planning department held a little conference on what it would take to get people to live downtown.

Who knew it would take a decade for things to happen in a big way?

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I'm with Murray on this one, why quibble over 2 additional floors for the hotel? If that's what it will take to attract an upscale chain then allow the changes without delay.

I think it's best that construction begins ASAP. We wouldn't want to give the NIMBYs any more time to launch a full assault against this proposal. And with Lake Placid proposing what they are, we should grovelling at their feet. I know I am.

I would have posted this in the thread reserved for the Lake Placid proposal but this column discusses a wider issue for our city: core vs. suburban growth.

Who entertained the idea of condo towers for Grasswood anyway? (Country bangs head against wall repeatedly muttering "When will they learn?!")
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^ Speedy approval of additional height for the hotel, most definitely
     
     
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Not sure where else to throw this, but it appears CtrlAltDel has been up to his old tricks again

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Wow .. that looks awsome.

I think a few glass towers would be a great addition to Saskatoon's skyline.
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Thoughts on how to improve our civic square...I think council should consider closing a road or two (if feasible) if it transforms our civic square into something magnificent

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TO HIS WORSHIP THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL IkjAR 9 26%
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His Worship the Mayor and City Council
March 11, 2008
City of Saskatoon

Your Worship and Members of Council,

Looking at the Cenotaph Clock in front of City Hall, I am struck by how important our
civic square has become to the citizens of Saskatoon. The significance of this space has
grown over time and its use has become clearly defined. It is a place of civic discourse,
where people gather to celebrate or comment on political and social events, from the local
to those of world-wide impact- a place where flags are raised and wreaths are laid. It is
also a place where civic workers relax at lunchtime, shoppers take a break and children
play after a visit to the library.

There is no other public space in Saskatoon that performs these functions. It has become a
focal point, its success derived from the fact that it is surrounded by some of our most
important public institutions, with ready access provided by nearby public transit. We are
fortunate to have this cluster of civic buildings. Their proximity to each other creates a
synergy which would be lost should they be scattered.

Currently, each of these institutions - City Hall, the police station and the Frances
Morrison Library - is in need of more space. In addition, the City Archives will soon be
looking for a new home. To add to the mix, a study of the reconfiguration of the Transit
Terminal is underway. Isn't it time that we looked at how all these institutions relate to
one another, and at how any proposed new development would affect that relationship?

The City spent a lot of energy developing an overall plan for the River Landing site. I
would argue that a similar global view should be taken of the area surrounding our civic
square. Surely, this site is just as important.

The United States non- profit organization, Project for Public Spaces, (www.pps.org),
recognizes the value of public spaces associated with civic centres - "They endow the
civic realm with credibility and prestige - not just visually, but also by providing a
sense of character and a forum for public activity''. Saskatoon has, in its civic square, a
unique public space, which should be recognized and enhanced through careful and
thoughtful planning of the surrounding area, where the relationship of institutions one to
another is considered, where the relationship of buildings to public space is reinforced
and where the role and impact of public transit becomes part of the equation.

I hope Council will take the time to consider these thoughts. We may still have the
opportunity to build upon what we have to create a civic destination point which will
continue to provide an anchor and a worthy focal point for this portion of the north
downtown. I hope we are not too late.

Yours sincerely, Peggy Sarjeant (652-9801)
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i heard on the radio the our mayor don wants to fly construction workers from windsor to ease off the construction worker shortage. they would be here for 5 days fligh back for the weekend and fly back to saskatoon for the weekday. Does anyone think this is a little crazy, not covering our downtown with a giant reverse snowglobe crazy but very unpractical, expensive.

here is the article

Atchison Responds To Windsor-Saskatoon Commute
Tuesday, 18 March 2008
The Mayor of Windsor says a long distance commuting program between his Ontario city and the Cities of Calgary, Edmonton and Saskatoon is truly a win-win situation.

The plan would apparently allow long distance commuters to travel weekly, back and forth, between western Canada and Windsor - which is suffering from high unemployment.

Mayor Don Atchison says Windsor Mayor Eddie Francis and the community would first have to be on board along with various businesses from Saskatoon to make it work.

Atchison says our city's housing shortage is a problem, so something would have to change in order to allow people to live here from out of province.



to me this seem really unpractical because of the hotels, being booked to support the workers

but it may bring new buildings/skyscrapers to our downtown, and possibly allow our airport to get its long talked expansion with increased air traffic and usage.


here are some other articles lately

Saskatoon City Council Wrap
By Benson McCulloch
Updated March 18, 2008 - 6:03am

Saskatoon City council may hold an emergency session on condo conversions.

Last night Saskatoon city council voted to hold off on approving nine condo conversions until April 21st. City Solicitor Theresa Dust says a decision on the Milroy Apartment court case should be handed down by then. But council agreed to meet and vote on the nine if a decision comes down earlier.

Council also agreed to build a new fire station on the East Side and move away from traditional phone lines and adopt a Voice Over Internet System.

City of Saskatoon's Kevin Peacock says it will cost 800 thousand dollars over four years to set up, but says it will pay for itself over the same period of time.


River Landing to become corporation
Similar to TCU Place; expected to pay for itself
Lori Coolican, The StarPhoenix
Published: Tuesday, March 18, 2008
Saskatoon's most-visible redevelopment project, River Landing, will soon become an entity unto itself by transforming into a city-owned non-profit corporation overseen by an appointed board of directors.

City council voted Monday night to approve the establishment of the new corporation and to dedicate property taxes and parking revenue collected from the development's lands toward its long-term management, maintenance and operational costs. A similar corporation governs TCU Place.

The move does not leave a door open for River Landing to diverge from the city's policies regarding things like snow removal, parking and noise restrictions at some future time, city manager Phil Richards assured council

We anticipate higher standards on site. In other words, for example . . . we'll have a higher standard on snow removal . . . so that people can enjoy access to River Landing all year round."

Council also approved a motion to amend the existing boundaries of two business improvement districts (BIDs) -- the downtown's The Partnership and the Riversdale BID -- to exclude River Landing.

The boundary changes will deprive both BIDs of the levies payable to them from a portion of property taxes collected at River Landing, but council resolved to reach an agreement with both districts where the city will provide them with an equivalent amount.

The creation of a new non-profit corporation to look after River Landing came about after a review of "similar park-like organizations around the country," according to a report to council from city manager Phil Richards.

"The board could consist of two city councillors, the city manager and four to five board members from a list of applicants received from around the city," Richards wrote. "The board would then be responsible for direction, policy, budgets, and the hiring and supervision of an executive director."

Even though only portions of River Landing are operational so far, the city spent $174,600 from general property tax revenues towards its maintenance and operations last year.

Another $234,400 is budgeted for 2008 since the pavilion, children's water play feature, Isinger Park and new streets and streetscape are expected to open this year.

Ultimately, River Landing is expected to pay for itself with the costs of management, maintenance and operations funded entirely through dedicated property taxes and parking revenues.

That likely won't happen for another two to three years, according to Richards' report.

In the meantime, those costs may be charged each year to a capital project funded from the city's reserve for capital expenditures -- starting with about $400,000 this year, he wrote.

In an interview Terry Scaddan, executive director of The Partnership, told The StarPhoenix it's too soon to pass any definitive judgement on the new River Landing governance structure, but he generally supports the city's desire to treat it as a special civic feature with a budget of its own.
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