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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 6:34 PM
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Get off your highhorse...

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You and others, could start using a different mode of transportation, then put the money you would have spent on gas and auto upkeep, towards rent.

Is that what you do?
See that doesn't really work for me since I live on the westside of the Valley and we don't have Trax lines here yet. Maybe one day we will. Of course I could take the Bus from West Jordan up to the Airport where I work. But I would have to get on three different buses and at each bus stop I would to wait 15-20 mins for the next bus, So getting to work that way would take me over an hour Vs only 20 mins by car. This is way most of us drives car cus our bus routs sucks.
This is why we need more transportation. Like having Trax lines to West Jordan and the Airport.
But I guess rich people like you have nothing to worry about. Rent and gas can go up as high as it can and you won't lose any sleep over it. But guess what?...I'm poor so I'm going to worry about it.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 6:39 PM
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The apartment that I am currently in is raising the rent from $575 to $750 each month. The average rent that I have found is closer to $700. This is along transit lines too.
With jumps like that you are closing in on my mortgage payment on my home. Thank goodness it is fixed.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 7:52 PM
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...But I guess rich people like you have nothing to worry about. Rent and gas can go up as high as it can and you won't lose any sleep over it. But guess what?...I'm poor so I'm going to worry about it.
I'm a student. I'm the antithesis of rich!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2008, 8:41 PM
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there's a side of me that wishes petrol prices would skyrocket to 6 or 7 dollars per gallon just so cities will wake up and start investing in public transportation sooner... many other places of the world have done so.. and its efficient, effective, and is its own controller of sprawl and growth managment... building sprawling subdivisions wouldn't seem so appealing anymore... americans and more typically western americans value their land and space.. but reality is... the space is shrinking fast and the resources to support the sprawl are shrinking as well...
I hope salt lake gets their trax lines up sooner than later.. to connect the whole valley.. would do wonders... I mean I remember being down there 10 years ago... and recently... its like night and day for mobility... look what what its done for transport already? then imagine the possibilities...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 4:37 AM
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breaking news on ksl.com as of 9:37 pm

A building in downtown Salt Lake is on fire. It's located at 100 South and West Temple in a building that used to house "Club DV8". We have a reporter on scene and will bring you more information on Eyewitness News at 10.

isnt this the arrow press square area????

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2539642





A 4 alarm fire has broken out at club DV8 at 100 South, West Temple in downtown Salt Lake City.

Fire crews are at the scene now. The fire has gotten so large that the Fire Department is pulling out crews. Deputy Chief Daniel Andrus of the fire department says that the building is collapsing and that it is at a total loss.

Currently the goal of the Fire Department is to simply contain the fire so that it does not burn surrounding buildings.

DV8 is a nightclub and music venue. There was not a concert scheduled tonight but there were multiple 911 calls so we do believe that people may be inside.

There are no reports of injuries thus far.

Stay tuned for details as the story develops.

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 1:02 PM
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Crews douse Salt Lake blaze, save adjacent building

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695246800,00.html


Jason Olson, Deseret Morning News

Huge blaze lights downtown

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8063006?source=rv

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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 1:58 PM
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Economy strongest in nation for 2008

http://www.davisclipper.com/default.asp?...=&pform=&sc=1005&hn=clippertoday&he=.com

Utah is entering 2008 with the strongest economy in the nation, according to Jeff Thredgold, economic consultant at Zions Bank.

No recession for Utah

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/252770/18/

Despite the ongoing housing and credit market turmoil, and lingering fears of a national recession, the Beehive state will likely hold its own for now because of its uniquely robust populaton, in-migration growth and diversified employment base, a Wells Fargo economist said Wednesday.



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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 6:12 PM
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This fire might accelerate development of that corner. The building will probably have to be demolished. I wonder if this was an accident. Maybe the debate has gone on too long for somebody: should we preserve architecturally signifant buildings or build something new. It's too bad about the loss of this building, but it is a prime location for a highrise hotel. Maybe they can incorporate the facade into the design of the hotel.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 6:29 PM
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This fire might accelerate development of that corner. The building will probably have to be demolished. I wonder if this was an accident. Maybe the debate has gone on too long for somebody: should we preserve architecturally signifant buildings or build something new. It's too bad about the loss of this building, but it is a prime location for a highrise hotel. Maybe they can incorporate the facade into the design of the hotel.


I was just thinking the same thing. Is the building lost? If the building is lost then the city might as well put that 1,000+ room hotel right there on that spot.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 6:43 PM
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I drove by the building this morning on my way to work and I do not see how that building could be rebuilt in its current state. It appears, to me as an unprofessional, to be a complete loss.

I still can't believe that the SLCFD was able to keep surrounding buildings from being damaged. I could see the flames from my house downtown last night.
     
     
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Kinda wierd in that these buildings just changed hands...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 6:54 PM
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sounds like we're all on the same page on this one. Sounds suspicious, too bad it happened, but maybe it will accelerate plans on that block, that is of course if it really was an accident and no one ends up in federal prison for arson and insurance fraud.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 7:03 PM
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Former DV8 building, gutted by flames, being demolished today

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8066531

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695246800,00.html

City building service employees using a back hoe were scheduled to knock down the building at 115 S. West Temple before noon Thursday. The nearby crews at the crossroads mall were diverted for awhile to help with the demolition of the old club dv8
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 7:14 PM
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Really Sad!

Club DV8 holds so much music history for Salt Lake City. So many famous bands performed there before they were big- Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Weezer, etc. etc. I am sure the list could go on and on. Also, wasn't X-96 in that building?

Am I dating myself?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 7:40 PM
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Club DV8 holds so much music history for Salt Lake City. So many famous bands performed there before they were big- Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Weezer, etc. etc. I am sure the list could go on and on. Also, wasn't X-96 in that building?

Am I dating myself?
X-96 is in Trolley Corners just across the street from Trolley Square.
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Club DV8 holds so much music history for Salt Lake City. So many famous bands performed there before they were big- Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Weezer, etc. etc. I am sure the list could go on and on. Also, wasn't X-96 in that building?

Am I dating myself?
Yes you are dating yourself but I remember when all those bands played at DV8 also. You are close to correct on the X-96 part, before Simmons Broadcasting purchased X-96 and then before they consolidated all there stations at Trolley Corner X-96 was actually in the white building just to the south of the DV8 building. That is were X-96 was started as an independent station. That was back in the Club X at The Vortex era, and don't go trying to correct me on this saying that X-96 was in Trolley Corner long before The Vortex was around. Remember Phx and I are old schooler and when I refer to The Vortex I am referring to the one and only Original Vortex in Exchange Place. Wow what a den of iniquity that place was, for you youngins you really missed out on a great NY/LA style industrial music club.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2008, 9:23 PM
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Yes you are dating yourself but I remember when all those bands played at DV8 also. You are close to correct on the X-96 part, before Simmons Broadcasting purchased X-96 and then before they consolidated all there stations at Trolley Corner X-96 was actually in the white building just to the south of the DV8 building. That is were X-96 was started as an independent station. That was back in the Club X at The Vortex era, and don't go trying to correct me on this saying that X-96 was in Trolley Corner long before The Vortex was around. Remember Phx and I are old schooler and when I refer to The Vortex I am referring to the one and only Original Vortex in Exchange Place. Wow what a den of iniquity that place was, for you youngins you really missed out on a great NY/LA style industrial music club.
Thank you! I though it was there. I vaguely remember picking up my Depeche Mode "Violator" cassette tape I won off the radio. Admittedly, I was too young to attend any of the concerts at DV8, but always wanted to go.

I only made it to the Vortex once or twice, although I often went to Exchange Place to get the male prostitutes to buy alcohol for my friends and me. They seemed a bit more reliable than the local bums. I was a bit of a club kid and found the Vortex too "frat-boy-ish" at the time.

Anyway, sorry to get off-topic, but I am dissappointed to hear that DV8 is dead.
     
     
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I heard on KUTV last night that the owner had no insurance on the building, so if this was some kind of insurance fraud scheme, it was a pretty stupid one.
     
     
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Since the building is not salvageable, it would be great if they could rework the corner one-story with an off-set of several stories above it, in the same style, and replace the demolished building to the side with exactly the same architectural flow. Also would like to see some good show-window space, appropriate to the structural era on that corner of 1st and West Temple.
     
     
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Kinda wierd in that these buildings just changed hands...
When did this take place and who?
     
     
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