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Old Posted Jan 15, 2008, 11:36 PM
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Nah, they'll just hear "Port Alberta" and say "Oh that's where Calgary is!"

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2008, 11:39 PM
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It kinda goes with the fact that any magazine that talked about Canadian cities would focus on the big 3. Now it's the big 4. (hint: Edmonton didn't make the cut)
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2008, 11:41 PM
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Nah, they'll just hear "Port Alberta" and say "Oh that's where Calgary is!"

Haha usually "anything" Alberta automatically makes people think Calgary
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 1:19 AM
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Haha usually "anything" Alberta automatically makes people think Calgary
Yay! Go Calgary!!!!!! The next center of the universe!!! (Wow, I just really annoyed myself really fast)
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 1:42 AM
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I have a feeling Port Alberta is gonna be HUGE HUGE for our economy. Think of all the freakin things today that is "made in China".. now if we can tap into that and become a major distribution centre for many Chinese buinesses.. can you say cha-ching!

My only complaint is.. Why did they name it Port Alberta and not Port Edmonton?!
Naming it Port Alberta is not a bad idea actually. It gives the impression that it is the only/main port for the whole province and relegates others to secondary status. It reminds me of the 'Alberta Children's Hospital' in Calgary. The name gives you the impression that it is the only childrens hospital in Alberta.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 2:34 AM
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Naming it Port Alberta is not a bad idea actually. It gives the impression that it is the only/main port for the whole province and relegates others to secondary status. It reminds me of the 'Alberta Children's Hospital' in Calgary. The name gives you the impression that it is the only childrens hospital in Alberta.
ahem STOLLERY ahem...

Well Edm has a far way to go in terms of global recognition and seems to always take a backseat to Calgary. It would just be nice to have the name Edmonton attached to something this BIG. Since the focus has been changing names to include Edmonton (Edm Clinic, Edm Art Gallery).. Port Edmonton sounds good to me But in fairness, I do probably admit that the name ALBERTA is more recognized than Edmonton.
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^That it does...

The image in Edmonton needs to change.Everyone is so down about this city and quite frankly I dont get it.
moved From Toronto living and working in Edmonton and this city offers everything any other major centre in Canada does including Toronto.Do I think more marketing could have been done?yes I do.Is Edmonton all bad because Calgarians say so?Nope...
Things are about to change in a real positive way for us up in the ''chuck''.Heck the chinese are taking notice and others aswell.Stand back and enjoy the ride.Its about to get really good...

As I have said before ''I promise''...

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^That it does...

The image in Edmonton needs to change.Everyone is so down about this city and quite frankly I dont get it.
moved From Toronto living and working in Edmonton and this city offers everything any other major centre in Canada does including Toronto.Do I think more marketing could have been done?yes I do.Is Edmonton all bad because Calgarians say so?Nope...
Things are about to change in a real positive way for us up in the ''chuck''.Heck the chinese are taking notice and others aswell.Stand back and enjoy the ride.Its about to get really good...

As I have said before ''I promise''...
i'm getting goosebumps where i shouldn't be getting goosebumps
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 5:59 AM
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Hmmm... someone just posted this on C2E:

"I know that wikipedia can be changed be anyone to say anything and someone will probably come on here and say that but i was just wondering if anyone can verify the fallowing routes that i read today.

CDG (Paris) on air transat on june 1st
FLL on westjet
Sydney Tokyo and Beijing on Air Canada
Rome LHR and Santo Domingo on Zoom
and Lufthansa to FRA seasonal starting August 14

Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEG

I thought it was a little strange but go ahead and pick away at it."

Are we getting hotter?
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 7:53 AM
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^^^ Sydney, Tokyo and Beijing on AC??? Bwahahahahaaha! Somebody is out to lunch. I wonder where AC is going to get the extra aircraft for these routes?

When did Zoom get slots at LHR??

I'm not trying to be a party pooper, but come on. Somebody is dreaming.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 12:20 PM
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If that is true...all I can say is wow!
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Don't get your hopes up folks. The editor noted that the routes were planned to begin in 2009, which is far beyond the timeframe that AC would solidify plans for a new route. Also, the editor states that the frequencies would only be a few per month, which is completely uncharacteristic of AC's business plan which has been to eliminate those routes and bolster frequencies on better performing routes. Finally, the only edits by this editor have been regarding these routes (and the Air Transat CDG flight, which casts it into doubt as well) on the YEG page and the AC page (from which they were promptly removed). From my experience, Wikipedia is extremely unreliable when it comes to matters such as airline route networks. For a time I monitored the AC routes page, and it was a constant battle to remove destinations that had either been cancelled, or only existed in the imagination of the editor.

Edit: And now they're gone. Praise the powers of wikipedia.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2008, 2:27 PM
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Hmmm... someone just posted this on C2E:

"I know that wikipedia can be changed be anyone to say anything and someone will probably come on here and say that but i was just wondering if anyone can verify the fallowing routes that i read today.

CDG (Paris) on air transat on june 1st
FLL on westjet
Sydney Tokyo and Beijing on Air Canada
Rome LHR and Santo Domingo on Zoom
and Lufthansa to FRA seasonal starting August 14

Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEG

I thought it was a little strange but go ahead and pick away at it."

Are we getting hotter?
That list of routes would be something more likely to happen out of Calgary then Edmonton unfortuntely.

We can only dream.........
     
     
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Wonder why EAA has not updated the passengers stats on the wiki site - and mentioned the new non-stop scheduled seasonal flights to MZL etc..

Here is an interesting, but known about article on the expansion:
http://www.journalofcommerce.com/article/id26036
     
     
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Infrastructure

Edmonton International Airport embarks on $1 billion expansion plan

WARREN FREY

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Edmonton International Airport is embarking on a $1 billion expansion.

The move is designed to ensure that the facility remains competitive and can welcome an increasing number of people coming to live and work in Canada’s northernmost major city.

Alberta’s oil boom has driven growth not only in the construction industry but in practically every other aspect of Edmonton’s economy.

More and more people are arriving in the northern city not only to head north to the oil fields, but for a myriad of other jobs that have become available as the province’s boom continues.

The Edmonton International Airport, built decades ago for a city centered on government work and agriculture, isn’t up to the rapidly increasing demands being placed on its infrastructure.

Paul Garbiar, vice president of Infrastructure and Technology for Edmonton Airports, noted that passenger growth has consistently stayed in the double digits, meaning it has now become necessary to expand the terminal and parking facilities much more quickly than previously expected.

Total traffic was up 17 percent year-to-date as of November 2006, and in August 2007 alone the airport handled more than 600,000 passengers, a record for the facility.

The airport’s expansion will consist of $1 billion invested over a three-phase process which, when completed, will allow the facility to serve nine million passengers a year.

“In addition to an expansion to the south terminal, we’ll also be constructing new offices and a new tower. We’re in the early stages of engineering for the expansion, but some of the main focuses will be around increased food, beverage and retail. The expansion west of the central hall to accommodate the new offices and control tower will add approximately 1,500 square metres of food, beverage and retail facilities,” Garbiar said.

Of course along with increased foot traffic, the airport will also need to address parking issues, and over 1,000 new stalls are being added to the existing facility.

“In 2008, the parkade expansion will be complete, with a new 4,000 stall park and ride facility, and construction of a new hotel is also tentatively scheduled to begin in early 2008,” Garbiar said.

The hotel, a 192-room Marriot, is part of the expansion, but the costs are not part of the $1 billion budget, and will instead be borne by developer Concord Hospitality Enterprises Company.

Increased passenger capacity also means much more foot traffic to and from airplanes, and 13 new bridges will be constructed to and from the new southern hammerhead terminal, so named because of its unique shape. And because more planes will arrive and depart from the airport, the expansion will also include new apron space, the area where planes park to load and unload cargo, baggage and passengers.

Though there is steep competition for skilled labour throughout Alberta, Garbiar said the airport project is sufficiently different from other in-demand areas that they haven’t as of yet run into problems finding workers.

“Rising construction costs and labour are certainly a concern. But although we compete with the oil sands groups for these resources indirectly, the airport industry is more on the commercial than the industrial side of things,” Garbiar said.

He added the Edmonton Airport was looking forward to forming alliances with “key engineering, architectural and construction companies that have demonstrated the capability to carry projects of this size.”

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/article/id26036
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Here is an interesting, but known about article on the expansion:http://www.journalofcommerce.com/article/id26036
So I'm going to assume that this article was based on a press release from ERAA. Assuming that's the case, how did this paragraph make it in:

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The Edmonton International Airport, built decades ago for a city centered on government work and agriculture, isn’t up to the rapidly increasing demands being placed on its infrastructure.
Is that actually part of the ERAA's marketing materials? Because it may be true, but why on earth would you write it? Do you want to make it sound like your primary asset is some weird time capsule farm airport?

You wouldn't want to maybe also mention the major expansion from 2000ish that's already been outgrown? Or maybe give the impression that you're a modern organziation that's involved in a continuing evolution process - rather than one that just wakes up once every few decades?

Good article. But PR in this city continues to baffle me.
     
     
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“In addition to an expansion to the south terminal, we’ll also be constructing new offices and a new tower. We’re in the early stages of engineering for the expansion, but some of the main focuses will be around increased food, beverage and retail. The expansion west of the central hall to accommodate the new offices and control tower will add approximately 1,500 square metres of food, beverage and retail facilities,” Garbiar said.

This makes it sound like the tower and the expanded food facilities are part of the same expansion (in other words in the same building), but the plans we saw showed the tower completely separate from the terminal on the other side of the runway. Is that just poor wording in the article or are plans changing?
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^tower could mean offices...not control.
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But it specifically says "control tower"
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But it specifically says "control tower"
true...everything i saw was the new tower way out in the middle of the western part of the field.

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