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Mayan space portal of happiness and light planned for Point State Park in 2012

http://pointoflight.com/htmlpages/PghMaya.html

A couple gems from this website written by a 100% serious person:







What Can Pittsburghers (and anyone else) Do To Be A Vital Part Of This Grand Planetary Evolutionary Shift?



I think all of this will do wonders for real estate value. I'm just hoping for some street level retail/benches or something around the base of this portal to activate the area.


Hmm... This sounds legit. Should I build a home directly over the portal of light for optimum spiritual awakening? Or should I just kill myself next time the stars align so that I can go directly up heavens chimney?
     
     
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> $998,000 for planning and engineering of a rapid transit system, linking Pittsburgh International Airport with Downtown, Oakland and the Mon Valley; <

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Woah, what exactly would this consist of? The T?
This highway has been in the planning stages for over 40 years. It's ruined businesses and people can't sell their homes because a proposed roadway is coming through... someday. They don't want to invest in improvements because they have no idea of what they'll be getting from the state, or when, so property and values continue to decline. Customers go elsewhere because they don't want to do business with a place that may not be there tomorrow. I really feel for the people who have been stuck in this predicament.

To get a quick idea of the original plan follow the link below.

http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html
     
     
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> $998,000 for planning and engineering of a rapid transit system, linking Pittsburgh International Airport with Downtown, Oakland and the Mon Valley; <



This highway has been in the planning stages for over 40 years. It's ruined businesses and people can't sell their homes because a proposed roadway is coming through... someday. They don't want to invest in improvements because they have no idea of what they'll be getting from the state, or when, so property and values continue to decline. Customers go elsewhere because they don't want to do business with a place that may not be there tomorrow. I really feel for the people who have been stuck in this predicament.

To get a quick idea of the original plan follow the link below.

http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html
OMG. An expressway cutting through Oakland??!! Thank God that urban life destroyer never got built. Just imagine the musuem area neighborhood with a freeway blasting through it. It'd be a dead space today.
     
     
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OMG. An expressway cutting through Oakland??!! Thank God that urban life destroyer never got built. Just imagine the musuem area neighborhood with a freeway blasting through it. It'd be a dead space today.
did you notice in that map something called the "Carson Street Expressway"?
     
     
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A Carson St. express Way would be great. I was sitting in traffic in your city of urban density today and getting pissed beyond belief. I would do anyting to make a way to plow through all those old buildings for a nice three lane, no taffic light, express way ,right to I-376 to connect me to the Pittsburgh mills to park my car to shop in Barnes and Noble!
     
     
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A nice read from Pop City

Transportation Key to World-Class Pittsburgh
By: Chip Walter

December 19, 2007
I love Pittsburgh. I loved it when I lived in Boston, San Francisco and Los Angeles and I love it even more now as a full-time resident. But one of our city’s shortcomings is the region’s failure to create a world-class public transit system.

By world-class, I mean an integrated, extensive, easy-to-use light rail system that branches out in all directions. Public transit is among the essential vitamins and minerals of healthy urban centers. Without an ability to move lots of people of every stripe all around fast and efficiently great cities cannot be great. I’m thinking of Paris, Chicago, London, New York, Boston. They need their trolleys and subways, metros and tubes or they would atrophy, and their citizens would shrivel up too. For people of all kinds to flourish in any city, they have to be mobile. Mobility is power.

Allegheny County’s Port Authority regularly takes a lot of abuse and it’s not my purpose here to heap any more on it. Actually, some recent studies show that the region’s transit system isn’t a complete train wreck. The 2007 Urban Mobility Study found that PAT moves more than 70 million riders a year, including half of the downtown work force that makes its way in from the suburbs each day. This despite recent cutbacks in service. In 2005 this did motorists the favor of saving them more than 1.8 million hours in travel time, and transit users another $33.8 million in fuel and related costs. That ranked Pittsburgh 29th in highway savings and 37th in congestion among the nation's 85 largest cities, right around the middle of the pack.

This is all good news, but saying that transit here isn’t bad isn’t the same as saying it’s great (and we do want to be great, don’t we?).

The question is: how do we get great? For starters don’t stand pat. This seems to be our current strategy. When announcements were made about the new light rail spur being built under the Allegheny to the North Shore, the Port Authority also announced that they had no additional plans to build anything else, anywhere. There was hardly been a peep about public transit in the mayoral race, and despite plan, after plan for the past 30 years, we’ve made only incremental improvements. My suggestion: develop a real people-centered vision for public transit in this region and get moving.

We have a few assets to work with: Two light rail lines, for example, that run to the south and have thousands of loyal customers. It’s lopsided (we have nothing comparable running to the east, west or north), but it’s upgraded and it works. Our subway is small but it’s well designed, the stations are safe and user friendly, and it runs free of traffic (unlike buses) -- a nice hub if we can grow it some spokes. The spur to the North Side, maligned as it is, will soon give the city access over both the Monongahela and Allegheny rivers for the first time since the old trolley system was running in the 1960s. We will need that to build a truly extensive light rail network.

We also have Maglev, which after years of near asphyxiation, looks like it could rise from the dead. The Federal Railroad Administration has been reviewing an environmental impact statement that may position Maglev Inc. to proceed with the first 15 miles of a national demonstration project that could link downtown with the airport.

Recently a ray of political vision even emanated from Harrisburg when the governor and state legislators pounded out a compromise called Act 44 to create a fund that could feed over $400 million dedicated dollars statewide in the next 10 years into mass transit. Keep in mind this has to support 73 public transit systems, but it’s a long, long trolley ride better the nothing it replaces. And it may at last stop the weeping and gnashing of teeth that emanate perennially from PAT’s offices around budget time.

What can we do with these assets? Here are some ideas to get the discussion started.

Low Hanging Fruit

Must every transit initiative become a mission to Mars? What if we kept projects as simple as possible; and modular so that later they can easily be connected, like Legos. Tap some of the state’s $400 million to jump-start efforts that utilize current (read low-cost) rail right-of-ways to create a transit line between Pittsburgh, Oakmont and Greensburg. A project like that would accelerate the resurrection of riverside communities from the Strip to North Versailles as well as buttress neighborhoods around the new $600 million Children’s Hospital. A similar project could see the creation of light rail service from Station Square through Southside and Southside Works to Homestead’s Waterfront and eventually to Kennywood and McKeesport. These are no-brainers and both corridors are growing. Another possibility is to run a low-cost line through Panther Hollow that connects Oakland, Pitt and Carnegie Mellon with the high tech sector along Second Avenue. And all of these complement bike paths that already exist.

Steal from San Francisco

If you’ve been to the Bay Area, you may have noticed a very cool trolley system that runs back and forth along San Francisco’s embarcadero (downtown waterfront). Nothing fancy – just trolleys running back and forth ferrying people as if they were in an amusement park. Let’s do the same thing in Oakland, right down the middle of Fifth Avenue from Craig Street to Carlow College -- just two connected trolleys running west to east, east to west, shuttling thousands of patients, students, nurses, researchers and other professionals all around Oakland every day. This is one of Pittsburgh’s few true boulevards, so there’s room for a single line. Charge a 50¢ a trip to defray costs. Ask UPMC to chip in. Imagine the parking and traffic relief this would deliver.

Build the Spine Line for Godssakes

City fathers have been talking about building a subway to the east of downtown since Pittsburgh was the Silicon Valley of the Industrial Age 100 years ago. Leverage some of the state money to resurrect plans to extend the downtown subway through the Hill District into Oakland and eventually to Shadyside, Squirrell Hill and a rejuvenated East Liberty where it would link with the current busway.

The spine line is empathically not low hanging fruit. I realize this. It’ll be expensive and complex, but how can we not have a major transit line running between the city’s two largest population, business and academic centers. Oakland is vital not only to the intellectual life of Pittsburgh, but as one of the nation’s largest research centers, the intellectual life of the nation. There is also the rejuvenation of the Hill District to keep in mind. And the thousands of students who live in Oakland need a proper transit system that can easily link them to downtown’s stores, sports venues, growing housing and cultural venues. Enough hand wringing. This isn’t a luxury. It’s a necessity.

Finally – MagLev, or Something

We desperately need a transit link between downtown and the airport. Every city worth its salt does. Maglev, as currently envisioned, could, some day, solve this problem. But if it doesn’t, we must build light-rail line either from the South Side, through the Wabash Tunnels and parkway west corridor, or from the North Shore and down the Ohio. Whatever is easier and cheaper. The advantage of Maglev is it potentially makes the region a technology and manufacturing center for a reinvigorated rail industry. The downside is Washington politics and federal bureaucracy. But that’s always an issue.

I don’t underestimate the complexity of these suggestions. But if it were easy, everyone would do it. The difference between talk and walk is the difference between Boston’s high functioning public transit system and Pittsburgh’s merely average one. This isn’t simply about convenience. History shows that light rail systems are an investment in the future. They don’t sap money (our current point of view); they create growth and improve the quality of urban life. While they’re at it, they reduce traffic, urban sprawl, and pollution. Most importantly, they empower people, broaden their worlds, and the dreams they can dream. Ask Portland, Seattle, Washington DC, even Dallas or, for that matter, anyone in town who is looking for a more civilized way to get from point A to point B.

Note: To see County Executive Dan Onorato's proposed transportation plan, click here.

You can access the 2007 Urban Mobility Report by clicking here.
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Chip Walter's latest book, Thumbs, Toes and Tears – And Other Traits That Make Us Human, is available in local bookstores as well as at Amazon.com and other online retailers. He’s currently working on his next book about why we make the choices we make.

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Transportation exhibit at the Heinz History Center

Wood Street Station lobby

Early rush hour on the parkway

Port authority bus

Under ground

Hitching a ride

All photographs copyright Brian Cohen
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Teleropa got shut down in Oakland. I found this out after being out of town after 3 years. Seriously, If you don't understand the impact of the city's most influential cultural store being shut down for major retail I understand. Go to the Pittsburgh Mills! This really pisses me off. This shows that Oakland has sold out to Pitt University. That it wants nothing to do with individual independent store owners, and that Pitt ownes everything for the chain stores that it wants. Bravo Pitt! Yes, a Verizon will be implace!

I came back Christmas shopping this Holiday Season and was wishing to buy my brother a good old Grateful Dead T in Oakland. However,,,,,,,,,,,, Shut down...... Sold for another chain store hope to be coming. These little things like this are making us young professionals bail Pittsburgh and head to other places. I left for about three years to Denver, and Cd stores there were filled with young people, bongs and glass pipes (oh my God, I said Bongs in Pittsburgh), and good music in the city's store. I am getting sick of these places being kicked out of Pittsburgh. It is about time young people get a right to speak in this town.

Actually, I give up. I am moving away again. I am going to Seattle.
Lucky Seattle... (and dude, if you lay off the bong a bit your language skills might improve).
     
     
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A nice read from Pop City

Transportation Key to World-Class Pittsburgh
By: Chip Walter

December 19, 2007
I love Pittsburgh. I loved it when I lived in Boston, San Francisco and Los Angeles and I love it even more now as a full-time resident. But one of our city’s shortcomings is the region’s failure to create a world-class public transit system.

By world-class, I mean an integrated, extensive, easy-to-use light rail system that branches out in all directions. Public transit is among the essential vitamins and minerals of healthy urban centers. Without an ability to move lots of people of every stripe all around fast and efficiently great cities cannot be great. I’m thinking of Paris, Chicago, London, New York, Boston. They need their trolleys and subways, metros and tubes or they would atrophy, and their citizens would shrivel up too. For people of all kinds to flourish in any city, they have to be mobile. Mobility is power.

Build the Spine Line for Godssakes

City fathers have been talking about building a subway to the east of downtown since Pittsburgh was the Silicon Valley of the Industrial Age 100 years ago. Leverage some of the state money to resurrect plans to extend the downtown subway through the Hill District into Oakland and eventually to Shadyside, Squirrell Hill and a rejuvenated East Liberty where it would link with the current busway.

The spine line is empathically not low hanging fruit. I realize this. It’ll be expensive and complex, but how can we not have a major transit line running between the city’s two largest population, business and academic centers. Oakland is vital not only to the intellectual life of Pittsburgh, but as one of the nation’s largest research centers, the intellectual life of the nation. There is also the rejuvenation of the Hill District to keep in mind. And the thousands of students who live in Oakland need a proper transit system that can easily link them to downtown’s stores, sports venues, growing housing and cultural venues. Enough hand wringing. This isn’t a luxury. It’s a necessity.
I agree. It should not really be a question of 'if', but 'how soon can we start?'. Oakland and the East End should be connected by transit to Downtown.
     
     
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It was late at night. Look, I don't even smoke any more and gave that up years ago. However, I am looking at this city on a perspective after being out west. You see the things that attract young people, and make a city thrive for young professionals. I move back to Pittsburgh, knowing that this city is a great city with a strong urban core. However, every friend I have moved away to Seattle, Denver, Austin, N.Y., Boston, and others. They close down anything cool, and everybody that I work for is a old, and very conservative thought, Rush Limbaugh listening person. The suburbs seem to be the thriving areas. I took a real chance with coming back to Pittsburgh, and now I am feeling that I am regretting it.
     
     
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Lucky Seattle... (and dude, if you lay off the bong a bit your language skills might improve).
Also, there is no need to be a prick. I am talking about Pitt university buying up all of Oakland's independent stores, and turning it over for chain stores. However, you can't seem to comment on that and have to hit personal attacks. Yes I went down there to buy bongs when I was in High School and College. I don't anymore. I am a professional that doesn't need that anymore. However, living in a city where cultural shops like these are looked at as horrible, and closed down for chain stores helps say something.

There is also no need to write with perfect spelling and grammer in a message board to have people like you come and try to pick it apart. I am an engineer that is horrible at spelling. However, I can do differential equations and thermodynamics.

Anyways, This is not city-data.forum. This board is talking about Pittsburgh compilations.

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That is cool reading that Maglev could possibly rise from the dead. I just don't see it happening for decades.
     
     
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Jackstraw: As I recall, Teleropa was shut down as part of operation pipe dreams, a federal program to shut down paraphanelia stores.
Article: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/pipedreams.html

So I don't think that was a city of Pittsburgh or Univ. of Pitt thing, I think it was a federal thing.
     
     
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Jackstraw: As I recall, Teleropa was shut down as part of operation pipe dreams, a federal program to shut down paraphanelia stores.
Article: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/pipedreams.html

So I don't think that was a city of Pittsburgh or Univ. of Pitt thing, I think it was a federal thing.
ya gotta love John Ashcroft!
     
     
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Mayan space portal of happiness and light planned for Point State Park in 2012

http://pointoflight.com/htmlpages/PghMaya.html

A couple gems from this website written by a 100% serious person:







What Can Pittsburghers (and anyone else) Do To Be A Vital Part Of This Grand Planetary Evolutionary Shift?



I think all of this will do wonders for real estate value. I'm just hoping for some street level retail/benches or something around the base of this portal to activate the area.
Nothing paints the city are positive more than some kind of light portal thingy. And, as strange as this might sound, if word of this actually spreads, I think Pittsburgh could very well become the hippie capital of the world. Take that, San Francisco!
     
     
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And, as strange as this might sound, if word of this actually spreads, I think Pittsburgh could very well become the hippie capital of the world. Take that, San Francisco!
Don't worry...I am already planning a lunatic-fest for NYE 2011 at the point with all of my insane friends from elsewhere. We are thinking glow sticks, alcohol, tin foil costumes....etc. We'll see if people are still interested four years from now though. haha
     
     
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