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^ I agree. one of these cookie-cutter 6 story hotels that are built everywhere is a terrible waste of a prime highrise location, right next to lots of other tall buildings on grant street.

That is the lot next to the entrance to the Chinatown Inn.... I've stumbled through that lot a few times at 3AM!
     
     
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That is the lot next to the entrance to the Chinatown Inn.... I've stumbled through that lot a few times at 3AM!
God help any poor hotel guests that may accidentally stumble into the Halloween or NYE Chinatown Inn parties in the future.
     
     
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^seriously.... They won't know what hit them. But you never know; They might accidentally have the time of their lives. I know the Chinatown always seems to have that effect on me.
     
     
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here's an interesting article on Pittsburgh's planning and development from 1889-1943...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07353/842686-53.stm

Places: Big plans for city started in 1880s

Wednesday, December 19, 2007
By Patricia Lowry, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

When it comes to civic planning in Pittsburgh, Renaissance I has gotten all the glory.

But in the first half of the 20th century, Pittsburgh also was on the cutting edge of progressive planning, Edward K. Muller and John F. Bauman write in their revealing book, "Before Renaissance: Planning in Pittsburgh, 1889-1943" (University of Pittsburgh Press, $60 hardcover; $27.95 paperback).

"I think people, because of the story built up around the Renaissance, don't appreciate the engagement with planning before the Renaissance," said Muller, historian and urban geographer at the University of Pittsburgh. "We've built this huge story about how the Renaissance stopped decline and built things and ergo, what happened prior to that didn't have much value, except maybe Oakland. But we found a different story."

What Muller and Bauman, history professor emeritus at California University of Pennsylvania, found was that Pittsburgh attracted some of the most influential figures in the emerging field of urban planning, men who strove to bring order, efficiency and beauty to a city dominated by heavy industry and plagued by traffic-clogged streets, lethal smoke and substandard housing.

Many Pittsburghers "are shocked to find out today that in the census of 1920 we are the fifth or sixth largest metropolitan area in the country. We are one of the big guys, one of the wealthiest cities," Muller said. "We're not leading [the city planning movement] but we're right there at the edge."

Ultimately, planners here met with only limited success.

"A lot of progressive things never got adopted," Muller said, "but a lot did."

The national movement for city planning was fueled in part by social reform and in part by the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, its "White City" and the City Beautiful movement it inspired. In Pittsburgh, its Beaux-Arts principles and Classical styles found a home in Oakland.

"The argument that we put out ultimately for the creation of Oakland as a civic center in the 1890s was a surprise to me," said Muller, who had embraced the widely held notion that Schenley Farms developer Franklin Nicola was the leading light. But Andrew Carnegie, with his museum and library, and public works director Edward Bigelow with Schenley Park and Grant (now Bigelow) Boulevard leading to it, were there before him, Muller said, and after 1893 they had even bigger ideas.

"I think it's pretty clear that Bigelow and Carnegie communicated and were inspired by the Chicago World's Fair and wanted to create something of civic interest below Fifth Avenue."

But while Oakland was shaped by a vision, it wasn't born of a plan. As Oakland blossomed, Pittsburgh, like most cities, continued to grow on an ad hoc basis, without benefit of a comprehensive plan. That began to change when Frederick Law Olmsted Jr., whose father had been the "White City's" site planner, was hired to study Pittsburgh's Downtown and main thoroughfares. At the time, his assistant discovered, "the city does not even possess reliable ordinary street maps."

Olmsted Associates' work in Pittsburgh by now is fairly well known, thanks mainly to Muller and Bauman, whose two articles in Pittsburgh History magazine in 1993-94 detailed Olmsted Associates' private estates in the East End and Sewickley, the town plan for Vandergrift and other projects, including the 1911 plan for Pittsburgh. It proposed a Downtown civic center and public garden next to the courthouse and made 80 recommendations for street, bridge and tunnel projects, including tree-lined riverfront parkways Downtown that also would accommodate promenades for pedestrians, "where they can watch the water and the [industrial] life upon it." There was never any question that rivers and waterfronts were primarily for industry: In the Olmsted plan, the City Beautiful was married to the City Practical.

Legacies of the Olmsted plan include the Parkway, Liberty Bridge and Tunnel, Schenley Plaza, Washington Boulevard and removal of the Grant Street "Hump," all suggested or endorsed in it. But the civic center idea never took off.

"It's too visionary for our practical-minded civic leaders," Muller said.

"Before Renaissance" also investigates the work of architect Frederick Bigger, the city's first professional planner, who shepherded the Citizens Committee on the City Plan and helped prepare its first comprehensive plan of 1923. He was part detail-obsessed bureaucrat, part visionary who understood the need to work with conservative civic leaders.

"We had no idea that Frederick Bigger was as prominent as he was outside the city in the world of urban planning," a profession he helped to shape, Muller said. "He was a quiet, shy man who did not seek the limelight but he was very thoughtful and wrote some important articles." The book gives voice, character and motivation to him and to many of the city's civic leaders, men who have long been only names on a page.

In 1939, the city turned to New York City highway and parks czar Robert Moses, who recommended removing trolleys and most of the train lines and stations from Downtown and backed Olmsted's plan for an elevated Fort Duquesne Boulevard.

In part, Muller sees the book as a corrective to the way planners, whom Moses often maligned, are depicted in the late historian Roy Lubove's two-volume "Twentieth-Century Pittsburgh."

"If you read Roy, they're a bunch of bumbling idiots, but just because things don't get built right away doesn't mean they're not embedding the notion of civic planning in the city" and laying the foundation for the Renaissance, Muller said. "One of the reasons more didn't get done on a design level is that Pittsburgh had to retrofit itself to the automobile," something with which it still struggles.

Lessons for today? "One is to have a broad-scale vision periodically as a city, even though that's not a blueprint, in order to have a public conversation," Muller said. Another is that "it takes vision and leadership. Without the leadership it's very hard to get things done."

Here's hoping that "Before Renaissance" lands in lots of Christmas stockings on and off Grant Street.

Architecture critic Patricia Lowry can be reached at [email protected] or 412-263-1590.
     
     
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County sells jail annex site for hotel

Wednesday, December 19, 2007
By Mark Belko, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A Downtown site once used to lock up inmates now will pamper guests.

Kratsa Properties, the Harmar developer in the midst of a hotel building binge, has reached a deal with Allegheny County to erect a Hilton Garden Inn at Fourth Avenue and Ross Street, site of the former jail annex.

The county's Industrial Development Authority board yesterday approved the sale of the property to Kratsa for $1.55 million, a decision that clears the way for the $22 million development.

County Chief Executive Dan Onorato said the hotel agreement would return vacant tax-exempt land to the tax rolls. He said Kratsa will receive no public subsidies to undertake the project.

"They're doing it with private money. There is no incentive here," he said. "We're excited about it. The fact the [private] market is doing it on its own is great."

The 156-room, six-story hotel also will feature about 100 parking spaces in an underground garage. Mr. Onorato said the developer is planning a coffee shop or restaurant on the first floor to serve the many government and private office buildings on Ross and Grant streets.

"This is going to be another great amenity. It's going to serve a part of Downtown that does not have a hotel that close," he said.

David Cocco, Kratsa vice president of hotel operations, said the developer hopes to capitalize on the proximity of the government buildings, PNC Firstside Center, and the new arena, which will be built on Fifth Avenue a handful of blocks away.

"We feel very strong about the location," he said.

Kratsa hopes to get started on construction by fall 2008, with completion by late 2009 or early 2010. That will coincide with the opening of the new arena, in time for the start of the 2010-11 hockey season.

Mr. Onorato marketed the jail annex property, nearly half an acre, for redevelopment after scrapping plans nearly three years ago to build an eight-story, $55 million county office building at the site, as proposed by former Chief Executive Jim Roddey.

After requesting proposals for reuse of the property, county officials worked with a developer interested in building a hotel but never were able to reach a deal, said Dennis Davin, county economic development director. That opened the door for Kratsa.

The $1.55 million Kratsa will pay for the property is less than the $2.88 million market value listed on the county's real estate Web site and below the $2.2 million calculated in an appraisal a couple of years ago. Mr. Davin said neither of those values take into account subsurface issues Kratsa will face and has agreed to rectify as part of the purchase.

Mr. Davin said other developers wanted the property for free and wanted public subsidies for cleanup work. Given that, the price Kratsa paid is an "absolutely fair value," Mr. Davin said.

Kratsa recently was selected by the city Urban Redevelopment Authority to build a Courtyard by Marriott hotel on a 1.2-acre site at the Pittsburgh Technology Center in South Oakland. That project, estimated at $17 million to $18 million, should by done by early 2010.

It also is erecting a $15 million, 115-room SpringHill Suites Hotel on URA-owned property on the South Side near the UPMC Sports Performance Complex and is getting ready to start on a $25 million, 180-room Residence Inn by Marriott on the North Shore near PNC Park.


None of the projects is publicly subsidized. Mr. Cocco said Kratsa prefers it that way. With subsidies, developments can become more complex and take longer to get done, he said.

"We built two without [subsidies]. We pretty much understand the business model and, again, we can get from start to finish quicker with private money," he said.

The two Mr. Cocco referred to are the Holiday Inn & Suites at the foot of the 10th Street Bridge on the South Side and the 198-room SpringHill Suites hotel on the North Shore across from PNC Park.

Mark Belko can be reached at [email protected] or 412-263-1262.
     
     
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Bush's OK would release $126M for region

By Tony LaRussa
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007


More than $100 million has been earmarked for local projects in an appropriations bill that has been passed by Congress and could be signed by President Bush this week.
The Senate voted Tuesday night to provide $70 billion for U.S. military efforts in Iran and Afghanistan, paving the way for the passage of a $555 billion omnibus appropriations bill combing war funding with the budgets for 14 Cabinet agencies.

The House passed a similar spending package Monday.

Under an unusual legislative two-step, the Iraq portion of the bill will be returned to the House today. Bush was ready to sign the bill, assuming the war funding clears the House.

U.S. Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Swissvale, said he is pleased that a number of important projects in Allegheny County will be funded. He said the funding is "the result of a collaborative effort with the congressional district's community leaders and elected officials."
Following are some of the projects that will be funded if the bill is signed into law:

• $69.18 million to repair locks and dams along the lower Monongahela River;

• $42.3 million for emergency repairs and rehabilitation of the Emsworth Dam;

• $2.46 million to study the condition of the upper Ohio River, Emsworth, Dashields and Montgomery locks and dams;

• $1.2 million for the East Carson Street widening project;

• $998,000 for planning and engineering of a rapid transit system, linking Pittsburgh International Airport with Downtown, Oakland and the Mon Valley;


• $828,000 for the planning and design of the first phase of the visiting quarters at the Pittsburgh Air Reserve Station in Coraopolis;

• $800,000 for the 3 Rivers Wet Weather Demonstration Program to fix municipal sewers, protect the region's streams and augment the investment of local governments in compliance with the Clean Water Act; and $468,384 for the removal of stream discharges from municipal combined sewers;

• $500,000 for the Regional Joint Readiness Center in Pittsburgh. Funds are for planning and development of a center to organize regional responses to terrorist attacks and natural disasters;

• $376,000 for Duquesne University's cyber-security preparedness for small- and medium-sized businesses;

• $376,000 for East End Cooperative Ministry for at-risk youth programs, which aim to prevent crime and juvenile delinquency;

• $307,413 for a construction project at Reformed Presbyterians Woman's Home;

• $307,413 for construction and equipment at Children's Home of Pittsburgh.



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Re: Pittsburgh Promise

The Post-Gazette takes a rather milquetoast tone towards UPMC's despicale actions... which makes me glad to have the Trib here as well... Jeremy Boren lays out the many mind-boggling and reprehensible facets of UPMC's proposed "gift"


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Pittsburgh Council balks at Promise qualifier

By Jeremy Boren
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, December 19, 2007


Pittsburgh City Council refused to be rushed into granting UPMC potential tax credits Tuesday despite political pressure from Mayor Luke Ravenstahl to reward the hospital giant for jump-starting a scholarship program for city school graduates.

City lawmakers demanded a delay and public hearing after some said they felt blindsided by Ravenstahl's proposed resolution to prevent the city from taxing UPMC up to $100 million over the next 10 years if the Legislature changes state law to allow nonprofits to be taxed.

The move triggered a rare rebuke from Ravenstahl's top aide, Chief of Staff Yarone Zober.

"It would be unfortunate if the actions of a few council members has the effect of preventing the class of 2008, those 3,000 seniors, from participating in The Pittsburgh Promise," Zober said.

Ravenstahl said in a statement that he understands City Council's desire to study the resolution.
"I am confident that City Council will do their part in making (The Pittsburgh Promise) a reality," he said.

UPMC general counsel Robert Cindrich defended UPMC's request. The city still would have the option to collect the Legislature-approved taxes from the nonprofit, but UPMC would reduce its donation to the Pittsburgh Promise proportionally, he said.


"We shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth," Cindrich told council members during a heated debate. "(This is) the only condition that UPMC has asked for. ... We will give $100 million. Please don't ask us to give it twice."

Councilwoman Darlene Harris said gifts are not supposed to come with strings attached.

"A donation or a gift is not a payment, it's a gift," she said. "When I donate to my church ... I give with my heart, because I want to donate."

The Pittsburgh Promise is modeled on a scholarship program in Kalamazoo, Mich., which has credited the program with reversing its population decline. Donors to the Kalamazoo Promise have remained anonymous and have not asked for tax credits in return, officials there said.

"UPMC seems to be confusing charity with extortion because they're saying, you won't get The Pittsburgh Promise money if you don't give us tax amnesty," Jeanne Clark of Squirrel Hill told City Council.


"If you let this legislation pass into law you are abdicating your responsibilities as elected officials," Regent Square resident Barbara Daly Danko, who has a son set to graduate from Schenley High School, told council members. "Backroom or back-nine deals are not acceptable to the public and should not be acceptable to you."

Council President Doug Shields said the resolution introduced Monday "may not even be legal" and scolded UPMC and Ravenstahl for not revealing the stipulation on Dec. 5, when UPMC announced its support for The Pittsburgh Promise.


"It's not the council that you didn't tell, it's the people of the city of Pittsburgh that you didn't tell on Dec. 5 that there are side deals here," Shields said.

"I think you owe an apology to the people of Pittsburgh," he told UPMC officials.


Councilman Bill Peduto said City Council hasn't been given enough time to debate the resolution.


"For so many reasons this is just plain wrong," Peduto said. "UPMC must do the right thing. Support The Pittsburgh Promise, but don't ask the taxpayers to provide a tax credit for it."

There appears to be no move in the Legislature to authorize taxes on nonprofits; however, some politicians, including City Council members, have sought that authority.

Greg Mahon, executive director of the state Senate Committee on Urban Affairs & Housing, said financially distressed cities across the state, including Pittsburgh, have long sought to tax nonprofits that occupy significant swaths of otherwise-taxable land.

"It's something that we see as a tool that (cities) probably could have or should have,"
Mahon said on behalf of the committee's chairman, state Sen. John Pippy, R-Moon. Mahon said Pippy will continue to study the problem with a series of finance summits next year.

Property taxes are Pittsburgh's biggest revenue source, producing about $121 million a year. Acting City Controller Anthony J. Pokora has estimated that if UPMC paid property tax, the city would gain $8.3 million a year.

UPMC -- Western Pennsylvania's largest employer -- has said it will give The Pittsburgh Promise $10 million to help the class of 2008 attend Pennsylvania public, private and trade schools after graduation. The health system pledged up to $90 million over the following nine years in matching funds.

UPMC posted a record $618 million profit last year.

Taxes UPMC currently pays would not be affected if the resolution eventually passes, Cindrich said, estimating UPMC has paid Pittsburgh $25 million in lieu of taxes since 1986 -- including $1.5 million a year UPMC gave to the Pittsburgh Public Service Fund, a group of nonprofits that agreed to give the city $4.5 million a year from 2005 through 2007.

Cindrich said UPMC, the fund's biggest donor, won't contribute next year -- casting doubt on whether the city will be able to raise the $4.1 million a year it expects to receive from nonprofits each year through 2012.

Direct taxes UPMC pays include property taxes on for-profit doctors offices owned by UPMC and the city's 45 percent parking tax, Cindrich said. He argues that UPMC will pay property taxes, indirectly, when it relocates its corporate headquarters to five floors in the U.S. Steel Tower.

UPMC and the Pittsburgh Foundation, which is managing The Pittsburgh Promise, declined to release the contract governing the scholarship program.

The Pittsburgh Public Schools board is expected to discuss the tax-waiver proposal at its meeting tonight. UPMC has warned it will not contribute to The Pittsburgh Promise unless City Council and the school board approve the tax exemption.



Jeremy Boren can be reached at [email protected] or 412-765-2312.
     
     
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Well, of course, Ravenstahl is a fool and is easily manipulated by UPMC. He is merely the implement by which the UPMC empire is holding this city hostage. UPMC realizes their days of untaxed profits in the billions may come to an end some day if the state government ever gets its head of its ass... so they devise a "charitable donation" to Ravenstahl's as-of-yet unfunded Pittsburgh Promise. This is designed to act as a shield from criticism for UPMC's greed, and to generate political support here in Southwestern PA against a potential non-profit taxation discussion statewide. UPMC gives a gift of $9000 worth of celebrity golf to our starstruck boy-mayor in order to get him on their side. Ravenstahl's embarrassing failure known as Pittsburgh Promise suddenly is legitimized with a huge infusion of cash from the white knight known as UPMC, and UPMC is granted eternal non-taxable status.. even if there is a future where the state government allows the city to coerce payments from tax-exempt institutions. UPMC and Ravenstahl announce UPMC's "$100 million donation" to Pittsburgh Promise amidst much media fanfare and goodwill, failing to mention UPMC's demand of eternal non-taxable status. This little condition finally comes to light a couple weeks later as UPMC and Ravenstahl (and his loser henchman Motznik) attempt to shoehorn this diabolical contract through council at the 11th hour before the holiday break.

You are right... the city of Pittsburgh gets what it votes for. I felt physically ill when this corrupt dumb-luck mayor received his coronation. He's bungled the Pittsburgh Promise. He's bungled the casino. He's bungling the arena/Hill District negotiations. Everyone thought he finally came through with the UPMC donation... but now the sordid details come to light.

I agree completely! I actually thought that both UPMC and Ravenstahl actually had some kind of conscience when they announced the gift...now, though, I'm embarrassed to have given them the benefit of the doubt...
     
     
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Woah, what exactly would this consist of? The T?
     
     
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UPMC's city properties are estimated to be in the $770 million range - which would generate $8 million a year in property tax.

I wonder what the numbers might look like for other "non-profit" entities? The Catholic Church?
     
     
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What is this E. Carson St widening project?! That scares me a little bit!
     
     
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here's an interesting article on Pittsburgh's planning and development from 1889-1943...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07353/842686-53.stm

Places: Big plans for city started in 1880s

In 1939, the city turned to New York City highway and parks czar Robert Moses, who recommended removing trolleys and most of the train lines and stations from Downtown and backed Olmsted's plan for an elevated Fort Duquesne Boulevard.
Wow. I never realized Pittsburgh was one of Moses' 'project's for urban mass transit destruction. I knew the story of how he strangled New York and Long Island with expressways, all the while killing off mass transit of all kinds (trolleys, street cars, etc. He even put the kibosh on a rail right of way on the LI Expressway - thus thousands sit in bumber to bumber traffic daily...) But I never knew he meddled in Pittsburgh. Too bad. Maybe there'd be more of a rail presence and less riverfront blockage (due to elevated expressways). He was smart and powerful, but he screwed the American public on transportation.
     
     
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UPMC's city properties are estimated to be in the $770 million range - which would generate $8 million a year in property tax.

I wonder what the numbers might look like for other "non-profit" entities? The Catholic Church?
Umm...the Catholic Church is a real non-profit entity. What money they have goes directly into charitable works. Why do you think that St. Francis Medical Center went bankrupt and Mercy was bought by UPMC? It's because they don't turn anyone away...kinda like the clinic they just set up downtown. And, by Cannon Law, each church and surrounding property are owned by the parish, not the diocese or the Vatican.

Given that there are 800,000 Catholics in the Diocese of Pittsburgh, over 180,000 in the Diocese of Greensburg, and 70,000 in the Byzantine Catholic Archeparchy of Pittsburgh, I'd say that Catholics are the one demographic in this city you don't want to piss off.

My solution to the city's fiscal problems would be to levy a tax on ignorance...there would seem to be ample supply of that.
     
     
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What is this E. Carson St widening project?! That scares me a little bit!
It is for a streetscape improvement in the area of South Side Works, not the more dense portion between the Birmingham and 10th Street Bridges. If you look closely, you'll see that the curbs along the South Side works portion of Carson Street were built with double sidewalks with a large grass strip - these will be removed as part of the widening.

Most of the money is for relocating utilities, lights, etc.

The original report: http://www.southsidepgh.com/SSLDC/documents/PSI.pdf
     
     
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It is for a streetscape improvement in the area of South Side Works, not the more dense portion between the Birmingham and 10th Street Bridges. If you look closely, you'll see that the curbs along the South Side works portion of Carson Street were built with double sidewalks with a large grass strip - these will be removed as part of the widening.

Most of the money is for relocating utilities, lights, etc.

The original report: http://www.southsidepgh.com/SSLDC/documents/PSI.pdf

Ahhh. I had noticed those before and wondered what the deal was with it. Thanks for the info.
     
     
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That SS plan is great...very high probability of stealing the way they used "swag lights" at intersections for elsewhere.
     
     
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It's high time they finish that stretch of Carson along the SSW

The concept of raised intersections with bollards defining the space is a severe departure. Swag lights over intersections and patterned concrete will have a dramatic visual and functional impact. It seems the South Side streetscape is going to the upscale and catching up to the real estate. I guess that was inevitable. It does seem to be a very ambitious plan and much needed as Carson is looking pretty scraggly, which is appropriate for a grungy arts community but not for a high-end shopping /restaurant/ night club center that, let's face it, is it's reality.

There is one thing that really irks me, that is with the major changes and street and side walk reconstruction they can't manage to get the utility lines buried all together instead, simply plan on consolidating them.

All and all, it is an forward thinking plan. Too bad it won't be ready for next years 250th
I'm surprised they aren't considering the section of Carson West of 10th Street to Station Square.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 5:28 PM EST
RMU plans $10M investment in Downtown campusPittsburgh Business Times - by Ben Semmes
Robert Morris University announced Thursday a $10 million investment in its main Downtown campus building, and said it is in the process of finalizing the sale of a smaller building nearby.

The university said it plans to invest $10 million in its 100,000-square-foot facility at 600 Fifth Ave. as well as expand its MBA program offerings there.

Meanwhile the university said it is finalizing a $1 million sale of its 18,000-square-foot property at 718 Fifth Ave. to Duquesne University.

"Today, the building at 718 Fifth Avenue is no longer adequate to meet our needs," RMU President Greg Dell'Omo said in a statement.

Robert Morris has plans to invest $5 million in its signature property at 600 Fifth Avenue and collect another $5 million through fundraising.

Pending the sale of the smaller building, the Bayer Center for Nonprofit Management will move to new space in the Regional Enterprise Tower and Robert Morris' Media Arts program will consolidate at the 600 Fifth Ave. property.

Both programs are presently based at the smaller 718 Fifth Ave. property.

Over the long-term, the university plans to develop a new media arts building at its main campus in Moon Township.
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This South Side plan is way more ambitious than I imagined. Very cool stuff! Part of me is sad to see the grunge start to fade away as that's what I loved about the neighborhood when I moved in, but I guess it's also nice to see it mature and grow up along with me. As a lot of the current younger residents get older/graduate/get jobs, south side will be adapting to changing tastes if this is pulled off.


Edit - I just realized how old this plan is. April 2003. Is it still being pursued actively, or has it slowed a bit?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 10:07 PM
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Mayan space portal of happiness and light planned for Point State Park in 2012

http://pointoflight.com/htmlpages/PghMaya.html

A couple gems from this website written by a 100% serious person:

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Returning to the significance of Pittsburgh’s converging rivers, several visionaries, healers, a Himalayan holy man, and the Dalai Lama himself have all confirmed that the Point where the rivers converge is indeed a sacred portal. Several of them have confirmed that this portal, or gateway, will soon be activated to bring forth pure universal light for our planet’s transformation.
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Two of these visionaries, Nance and Frank, are from the Pittsburgh area. Together they do planetary healing and ascension work, to anchor into Earth the changes needed to facilitate our transition to the new age. According to their transmissions of guidance, “Pittsburgh IS the “Point of Light,” the key portal of twelve such portals on sacred sites across the Earth.” They explain that these portals are at locations in the earth’s landscape where a convergence of rivers, mountains or other geographical formations creates a mirror image of the sacred Mayan Universal World Tree, visible in the Milky Way. These Earth portals receive and transmit the holographic transmissions from the Universal World Tree at regular intervals.
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Nance further states that Pittsburgh’s spiritual purpose needed to be hidden until now, but by 2011-2012, Pittsburgh will be recognized globally as a spiritual powerhouse. She wants Pittsburghers to know that, “if you live in Pittsburgh, you are here for an important reason: to witness, nurture, and transmit the pure incoming light of this universal portal. Being aware of the legacy of our ancient landscape is crucial in the evolution of consciousness of this planet and our species at this time.”
What Can Pittsburghers (and anyone else) Do To Be A Vital Part Of This Grand Planetary Evolutionary Shift?

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Echoing Nance and Frank’s call, Carlos Barrios urges that we “need to reactivate the energy of sacred places. That is our work.” Go to these sacred places (the Point is ours!) and visualize the spread of the incoming pure healing light. Do this both alone and in groups.
I think all of this will do wonders for real estate value. I'm just hoping for some street level retail/benches or something around the base of this portal to activate the area.
     
     
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