High-Rise Rundown: Denver - Page 15

pablosan · #**281** Posted **Dec 17, 2007, 5:05 PM**

That's just the nature of living downtown. Somebody's view is going to be blocked by another tower, eventually.

SnyderBock · #**282** Posted **Dec 17, 2007, 8:44 PM**

That would be good incentive for them to build the second Four Seasons tower, taller than the first, instead of shorter. Then people whom had their views blocked could sell their unit and buy a new unit in the second tower up above the rooftops!

Fidel Castrobot · #**283** Posted **Dec 17, 2007, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by SnyderBock

That would be good incentive for them to build the second Four Seasons tower, taller than the first, instead of shorter. Then people whom had their views blocked could sell their unit and buy a new unit in the second tower up above the rooftops!

Good reasoning!

pablosan · #**284** Posted **Dec 17, 2007, 9:37 PM**

We just may get that 1000' skyscraper afterall. LOL.

Top Of The Park · #**285** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 1:33 AM**

...this end of downtown is going to look chicago-esque

pablosan · #**286** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 6:08 AM**

Definately. Downtown will balance out.

blm3034L!fe · #**287** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 3:31 PM**

Balance out? As far as the taller towers are concerned there will now be a few more on the west part of the City, instead of majority of the 500'+ Club being on the East.

IMHO after the developments are complete in this area, if Denver is to gain anything over 850 feet? It should go in the Center of it all, possibly on 17th street or maybe 15th street. And that my friends would truely "balance out" the City IMHO.

Either way I don't care where a new tallest would go, but I sure would like to see a propsal or two for a new tallest in this City, wouldn't you guys agree? Actually forget the proposal we have had those in the past, let's hope that 2008 will bring Denver a new tallest Mixed Use Tower over 850'

Octavian · #**288** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 3:37 PM**

Yeah baby, lets get that new tallest started in the Tech Center, or possibly . . . Colorado and I-25!

pablosan · #**289** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 3:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Octavian

Yeah baby, lets get that new tallest started in the Tech Center, or possibly . . . Colorado and I-25!

LOL

glowrock · #**290** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 3:52 PM**

Nah, how about Arapahoe & I-25???

Aaron (Glowrock)

blm3034L!fe · #**291** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 4:01 PM**

I currently work off of Colorado and I-25 and I personaly do not believe that a tower of that magnatude should be built in the Colorado Coridor area, but that's just my opinion. And the DTC? Personally I feel like even though the DTC feels like another City/Downtown, in reality a tower over 700' would look funny in these areas.

The DTC IMHO after it fills in a bit more might be able to pull off something in the neighborhood of 400+ Feet but certainly nothing over 500' IMHO, however this is only my opinion and if a developer were to construct a new tallest in the DTC? Who am I to say anything? However I do feel that if something like that were to happen? It would hurt downtown Denver, think about this Denver could easily have 2,3 maybe 4 or 5 new tallest buildings if there were no DTC, and all the buildings in the DTC were converted into downtown Denver...

But that's okay there is plenty of room in this City for more, it's not like Denver is hurting.

I wish Phase III of the Offices by Dave & Buster's would have been completed! That would look nice on the Colorado Blvd Corridor IMHO. The DTC is doing just fine with it's own developments right now, they have several cranes up constructing new towers as we speak. So all an all the urban area's in the City are doing quite well, but a new tallest in Downtown would be heaven.........

mr1138 · #**292** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 5:09 PM**

Actually I think we should be glad those offices weren't completed, because the new owner of the Colorado Center complex now wants to develop the remaining land in a more mixed use fashion because of the light rail. So instead of just more auto oriented office space, it will be finished with residential and more retail. I believe they're working with the city to develop a plan for the neighborhood right now.

This pdf gives you an idea of what they're thinking

http://denvergov.org/Portals/193/documents/Colorado/00_Colorado_HANDOUT_All%20Graphics.pdf

Top Of The Park · #**293** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 5:10 PM**

......I think you are correct about a tallest being on 17th Street and others have said the 16th to 17th and California would be a preference. I personally admire Seattles skyline in that it stairsteps from the ends up to the middle and has one building clearly taller than all the others. I hope we acheive that.

I like whats going on in the CPV as far as adding length to our skyline. I hope someone picks up on the El Jebel site on the other end...so as to lengthen the skyline (if for only another block to Sherman).

With all the new buildings and new proposals to go along with the existing buildings between Champa and Larimer and 16th to 18th, there will be a amazing number of buildings in a relatively small area, especially if this new 17th and Curtis building is a go.

I wonder if the DTC/Greenwood Village/Inverness corridor still has more office sq footage than downtown? I think it use to be 28mil sq ft to 27 mil sq ft. Both have added a little. I am still amazed that we have more sq footage than downtown Minneapolis.

ski82 · #**294** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Top Of The Park

......I think you are correct about a tallest being on 17th Street and others have said the 16th to 17th and California would be a preference. I personally admire Seattles skyline in that it stairsteps from the ends up to the middle and has one building clearly taller than all the others. I hope we acheive that.

The Columbia Center (or whatever its called now) is on the southern edge of downtown Seattle highrises. Still, if Denver's skyline could ever approach that of Seattle, it would be sweet.

I think the real boom for downtown Denver is if non-traditional O & G takes off. Denver is poised to be the psuedo capital in the field. Not to mention being the capitol of a region that would have a MUCH higher profile.

Top Of The Park · #**295** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 6:50 PM**

Wow...its on the SSP photo site (north american pics) or go to http://forum.skyscraperpage.com?showthread.php?t=142934

Virtual Earth shots of north american cities....pan down for Denver, its not in the big grouping at first.

Nice!

FrancoRey · #**296** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 6:53 PM**

Denver: The Renewable Energy Capital of the World.

I like the sound of that, and the 3 or 4 supertalls such a title would bring. Screw Dubai's and Houston's oil!

Octavian · #**297** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by blm3034L!fe

I currently work off of Colorado and I-25 and I personaly do not believe that a tower of that magnatude should be built in the Colorado Coridor area, but that's just my opinion. And the DTC? Personally I feel like even though the DTC feels like another City/Downtown, in reality a tower over 700' would look funny in these areas.

Lol, I completely agree. I was kidding.

blm3034L!fe · #**298** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrancoRey

Denver: The Renewable Energy Capital of the World.

I like the sound of that, and the 3 or 4 supertalls such a title would bring. Screw Dubai's and Houston's oil!

What are you guys talking about? Renewable Energy Cap eh? Hey if that title comes with some towers over 1000' I'm all for it! Actually if that title comes with some additional infill of any kind I'm all for it!!! LOL

I am truely hoping that 2008 will be Denver's year for an announcment of the City's new Tallest. I have a funny feeling it will be, and I cannot wait to see the design so I can fantisize about the future skyline!!!

ski82 · #**299** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrancoRey

Denver: The Renewable Energy Capital of the World.

I like the sound of that, and the 3 or 4 supertalls such a title would bring. Screw Dubai's and Houston's oil!

I mean more of things like oil shale. Natural gas is down as of late, but that is another energy source that could really boost the region.

As for renewable energy, wind/solar could be players in the state, but given their nature you won't be finding a wind/solar 'capital' anywhere. Ethanol is a big problem that needs to go away, but thats another discussion for another forum.

The 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 with oil shale, etc. is that they are even more susceptible to busts than conventional oil becuase the price of oil needs to be quite a bit higher for these methods to be profitable. The plus side is that if prices stay where they are, an industry like this would really help the region get through an economic downturn.

Top Of The Park · #**300** Posted **Dec 18, 2007, 8:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by ski82

The Columbia Center (or whatever its called now) is on the southern edge of downtown Seattle highrises. Still, if Denver's skyline could ever approach that of Seattle, it would be sweet.

I think the real boom for downtown Denver is if non-traditional O & G takes off. Denver is poised to be the psuedo capital in the field. Not to mention being the capitol of a region that would have a MUCH higher profile.

...Geeze, I wish we had the water, but oh well. Actually we are ahead of Seattle as far as Light Rail, they are ahead with bus ridership, but not by much. We have a better Airport, they have more downtown living, but we should fare well. Seattle and Denver both have downtown stadiums. All things considered, they have big downtown retail and just a better, bigger city all around. Denver may get to that point eventually....