YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 65

#**1281** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 9:36 PM**

Well AMS on Martinair has been dropped to YYC and YEG.

Edmonchuck · #**1282** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 10:13 PM**

Any rationale?

Jasper and one o nin · #**1283** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 10:18 PM**

we gotta get a fu(king houston route soon.

#**1284** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 11:40 PM**

how is the houston route related in anyway to the AMS route? .

Jasper and one o nin · #**1285** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 11:44 PM**

^Not at all.

LO 044 · #**1286** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 11:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by brento79

Well AMS on Martinair has been dropped to YYC and YEG.

AC is laughing all the way to the bank. They have one competitor left, Air Transat.

CanadianCentaur · #**1287** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 11:50 PM**

Just got off a WestJet flight to Grande Prairie, and things were fairly busy at YEG, but not that crowded. The parkade and some tarmac expansion to the south (I think) are well underway, as some of you may already know.

GP's airport was just so insanely crowded that I almost couldn't get through with my suitcase in tow. While it hasn't changed too much from the outside, with the new glass-covered Arrivals entrance the only really noticeable change, it's been renoed completely on the inside, with a new restaurant on the upper floor.

CanadianCentaur · #**1288** Posted **Dec 12, 2007, 11:59 PM**

If Canada-EU Open Skies became reality, is it possible that Martinair would return?

EdmTrekker · #**1289** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 12:12 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by brento79

Well AMS on Martinair has been dropped to YYC and YEG.

I am pissed about this. What IS interesting is that they have revamped their website - allowing for on-line purchasing on a scheduled carrier basis for YYZ and YVR. Makes you wonder now that Matinair is wholly owned by KLM as to what is happening.

http://www.martinair.com/ca_en/flightschedule/index.aspx

#**1290** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 3:31 AM**

Maybe if the open skies happen we'll see them or KLM enter the market. But they really wanted to have scheduled service here. With Air Canada offering more flexible offerings to the tourist I can see why they may have pulled out.

Edmonchuck · #**1291** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 5:10 AM**

I think your right brento79...

LO 044 · #**1292** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 5:25 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by brento79

Maybe if the open skies happen we'll see them or KLM enter the market. But they really wanted to have scheduled service here. With Air Canada offering more flexible offerings to the tourist I can see why they may have pulled out.

Here's a posting on airliners.net. Don't know how reliable it is but here it is nonetheless:

Quote:

Yes, edmonton and Calgary are dropped.

Martinair is reducing their long-haul network in order to focus on offering more frequencies to the more important markets.

They are dropping Calgary, edmonton, Montego Bay, Orlando, and Tobago.

Vancouver and Toronto are increasing, so they will offer a daily flight to Canada.

Miami is increasing to 8x weekly, with two daily flights on Friday, taking the capacity lost from Orlando.

They will also continue scheduled service as is to AUA, CUR, HAV, and PBM. Service to SJO will continue to be daily, but given the ending of the Orlando route, all flights will be routed via Miami (currently it is 3x MCO/4x MIA).

#**1293** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 5:46 AM**

Let's see if we have a EU agreement by June, we could see a AMS or FRA route by October.

LO 044 · #**1294** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 6:23 AM**

Maybe FRA (or even WAW) is beginning to look better than AMS. At least FRA or WAW would have Star Alliance connections. Of course that doesn't say much for competition into YEG.

#**1295** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 4:07 PM**

Yes a Star Alliance connection would be awesome, but if West Jet really does go through with partnerships AMS might be our "shining star"

CanadianCentaur · #**1296** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 7:46 PM**

How good is AMS for connecting flights to the rest of Europe and the Middle East compared to FRA?

lubicon · #**1297** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 8:27 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianCentaur

How good is AMS for connecting flights to the rest of Europe and the Middle East compared to FRA?

LH hubs out of FRA, KLM hubs out of AMS. Both are very good for connections to pretty much everywhere.

#**1298** Posted **Dec 13, 2007, 8:54 PM**

AMS is the Fourth largest after LHR, FRA, CDG

Canadian74 · #**1299** Posted **Dec 14, 2007, 12:05 AM**

I thought YEG can get FRA service tomorrow if AC/LH wanted. There are no restrictions. How would an open-skies agreement with EU help?
I am pretty sure even if an agreement is negotiated, YEG will not get KLM.

MalcolmTucker · #**1300** Posted **Dec 14, 2007, 12:29 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian74

I thought YEG can get FRA service tomorrow if AC/LH wanted. There are no restrictions. How would an open-skies agreement with EU help?
I am pretty sure even if an agreement is negotiated, YEG will not get KLM.

Yeah, in 1990 the Germans sent a note to Canada for

Quote:

March 30, 1990

Diplomatic Note (Germany designates Lufthansa AG on the route Frankfurt/Edmonton)

The request wasn't rejected.

As for AMS with KLM, they cannot land in Edmonton due to the bilateral. AC can fly to AMS from YEG however.

All the bilaterals are here