CHICAGO | Boom rundown - everything over 12 floors. v5 - Page 231

harryc · #**4601** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:08 AM**

Trap doors on self raising form, closed until the rebar is installed and the stubs ( which will extend above the poured wall ) are installed.

Pouring the SE wall

note use of safety line - even when working in the basement.

Putting in raker beams on the SW corner

Working late

BVictor1 · #**4602** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alliance

Hey. Nice.

Anything that covers up 630 N. State is good in my book.

Alliance · #**4603** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Anything that covers up 630 N. State is good in my book.

Oh, come on...anything?

Its just unfortunate it doesn't block more.

harryc · #**4604** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:36 AM**

K Street Station (?)

Can't remember the name ( far left ) seems to fit in with the old engine house.

aaron38 · #**4605** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:52 AM**

So they went to all the work of redesigns on 2020, then killed the project? I've been on a project like that, sucks.

I think there was an earlier rendering of 9 West Erie that just had it floating in the open. It looks better in that setting, as a bookend, really helps with the streetwall.
Is there not a lot of retail need in that area though? That's the only thing that looks a little bare.

Dan in Chicago · #**4606** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alliance

Also, Emporis says "Although construction began in the summer of 2006 with foundation work, the structure will not rise for another couple of years, and the building's status will remain temporarily on hold." Thus shouldn't it be changed from proposal to on hold status?

That would make sense, but the mistake is actually in Emporis' fact. It should have been changed when we found out the foundation work was NOT for the east tower, only for the garage. I'll change the fact right now. Thanks for catching it.

emathias · #**4607** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by aaron38

I think there was an earlier rendering of 9 West Erie that just had it floating in the open. It looks better in that setting, as a bookend, really helps with the streetwall.
Is there not a lot of retail need in that area though? That's the only thing that looks a little bare.

There is a decent amount of retail in that area. It's a block north of two Italian restaurants, the shops in Tree Studios, Chili's, Red Head piano bar, Whole Foods, a Starbucks, Bijan's, and a bunch of other stuff.

Not every building needs retail in it, and who knows - maybe the final version will have some retail.

emathias · #**4608** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 6:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

That's a nice modern bookend to help block the view of that shitty pomo behind it! Isn't something getting torn down for this though?

No, it's a surface parking lot currently.

Loopy · #**4609** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 1:45 PM**

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I have it from a good source that 2020 is a dead project.

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Is that because of PDNA or the face that Roukas can't finance it.

The combination of 2nd Ward politics in general and PDNA opposition in particular has caused a group of Rokas investors to bolt. There are lawsuits flying and it also appears that the Franklin Point project has been wounded in the crossfire.

SamInTheLoop · #**4610** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loopy

The combination of 2nd Ward politics in general and PDNA opposition in particular has caused a group of Rokas investors to bolt. There are lawsuits flying and it also appears that the Franklin Point project has been wounded in the crossfire.

If true that politics (Fioretti) had something to do with the investors bailing, this is sad proof positive that the business community - investors and developers - are getting the impression that the 2nd Ward is closed for business. Fioretti's badly misplaced agenda of slowing development and investment in the South Loop is showing initial signs of success...

Alliance · #**4611** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 2:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loopy

There are lawsuits flying and it also appears that the Franklin Point project has been wounded in the crossfire.

MEDIC!

I thought the lawsuits were internal though, between developers.

SamInTheLoop · #**4612** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 2:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by VivaLFuego

From the front page, the old design for Flair:

So, lop off a couple floors and you get the idea.

I'm surprised nobody else caught this - there actually was a small b&w render of the new design at the top of the front page of the S-T business section the other day (not alongside Roeder's column). It's not a great design by any means, but it actually looked marginally improved to me over this initial design (granted it was a small render, and given my very low expectations for Antunovich designed (and especially Antunovich-designed, McCaffery-developed) projects, I'm doubting my own lack of nausea upon seeing it), but just thought I'd throw it out there..... Also, I think they dumped the silly roof...

SamInTheLoop · #**4613** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 2:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loopy

The combination of 2nd Ward politics in general and PDNA opposition in particular has caused a group of Rokas investors to bolt. There are lawsuits flying and it also appears that the Franklin Point project has been wounded in the crossfire.

It may be worth checking into 2100 (formery called The Avalon) as well. Could it be very troubled if not dead too?

VivaLFuego · #**4614** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:40 PM**

So who's worse for Chicago, Fioretti or Reilly? This is a close race. They're running head-to-head at this point, I think, but I feel Hack Reilly might be edging out Slick Bob in scaring off any developers.

Mojava · #**4615** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by emathias

There is a decent amount of retail in that area. It's a block north of two Italian restaurants, the shops in Tree Studios, Chili's, Red Head piano bar, Whole Foods, a Starbucks, Bijan's, and a bunch of other stuff.

Not every building needs retail in it, and who knows - maybe the final version will have some retail.

Agreed. Plenty of retail in this area. Not to mention 3 blocks from Mich. Ave. This is also right across the street from the Dana Hotel under construction as well as the two blocks from the Palomar.

Loopy · #**4616** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

It may be worth checking into 2100 (formery called The Avalon) as well. Could it be very troubled if not dead too?

Avalon/2100 is OK. It is outside of PDNA's area, and sales have begun.

Chicago Shawn · #**4617** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

I'm surprised nobody else caught this - there actually was a small b&w render of the new design at the top of the front page of the S-T business section the other day (not alongside Roeder's column). It's not a great design by any means, but it actually looked marginally improved to me over this initial design (granted it was a small render, and given my very low expectations for Antunovich designed (and especially Antunovich-designed, McCaffery-developed) projects, I'm doubting my own lack of nausea upon seeing it), but just thought I'd throw it out there..... Also, I think they dumped the silly roof...

Yes, mansard roof is off, new flater roof is in, with a couple of concrete spires (extensions of a couple pilasters) rising above the roof line. Small increase in the unit count as well. More density is always a positive improvement, and quite frankley the only important thing to note about this POS.

Chicago Shawn · #**4618** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loopy

The combination of 2nd Ward politics in general and PDNA opposition in particular has caused a group of Rokas investors to bolt. There are lawsuits flying and it also appears that the Franklin Point project has been wounded in the crossfire.

Oh well. The land those projects are sitting on is only getting more valuble the longer they sit empty. I would rather wait on them and have something better proposed in a few years, especially with Franklin Pointe, which Fioretti said was "not happening" when a few of us met up with him about 2 months ago. Hopefully with the Pussy Dimwit Nimby Assholes losing thier battle with X/O, and McPier about to ram a huge hotel up thier ass; the little bitches will sell thier units and move, taking thier selfish exclusionary attitudes with them.

Mr Roboto · #**4619** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by VivaLFuego

So who's worse for Chicago, Fioretti or Reilly? This is a close race. They're running head-to-head at this point, I think, but I feel Hack Reilly might be edging out Slick Bob in scaring off any developers.

Maybe, but since many of the areas of Fiorettis ward are still developing, I think he has more potential to do some serious damage. And considering crucial developments like Franklin point are apparently at risk too, there's no telling how bad this could get. But its early...

Alliance · #**4620** Posted **Nov 30, 2007, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

Oh well. The land those projects are sitting on is only getting more valuble the longer they sit empty. I would rather wait on them and have something better proposed in a few years, especially with Franklin Pointe, which Fioretti said was "not happening" when a few of us met up with him about 2 months ago. Hopefully with the Pussy Dimwit Nimby Assholes losing thier battle with X/O, and McPier about to ram a huge hotel up thier ass; the little bitches will sell thier units and move, taking thier selfish exclusionary attitudes with them.

Yay hotel up asses!

Did we actually have a vague timeline for when we were going to get details on that project?