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The QE plaza at the corner of Cambie and Georgia will be used to host an Aboriginal pavillion during the 2010 games, where visitors can experience aboriginal culture and cuisine.

As far as I know that spot is scheduled to become a 14 story office tower after the games.
     
     
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interestingly enough a Royal Bank just opened in Coal Harbour in the Evergreen Building......out of no where it seemed.
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progress at atelier on robson. note too the new westin sign..


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I am always impressed with the desity of Vancouver... but one thing which has struck me in this photo is the lack of pedestrian traffic. Is this the norm, or is this photo misleading for this area?
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Probably a little misleading, I used to live right around there and it was usually a bit busier, on a sunny day that area is very busy because of the Library Square. Or at night when a show is on at The Center.
     
     
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that probably one of the busier parts of downtown when its nice out
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this part of Vancouver is a newer residential area. while it looks very dense...and it is, this a relatively quiet area. This area is close to BC Place Stadium and is largely a non commercial area.

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I am always impressed with the desity of Vancouver... but one thing which has struck me in this photo is the lack of pedestrian traffic. Is this the norm, or is this photo misleading for this area?
Here's a pick of the same intersection on another day, care of entheosfog (the empty lot being behind him in this pic). It's no Times Square but not bad.



As a general rule, pedestrian activity in Vancouver is much higher on sunny days. Also depends on when and where you are too of course. Move west down Robson (one of the intersecting streets in that pic) a few blocks and the pedestrian traffic on average is more like this...



It would seem that pedestrian traffic is more correlated with what is seen as a 'destination' in the immediate area as opposed to how high the residential density in the immediate area is.

For the intersection in question, the major destinations are the library and The Centre (for performing arts) so pedestrian traffic will flow in correlation with demand for these destinations (such as when a performance is on). Aside from that, an empty lot, a hotel, and a few random retail units (Starbucks/Japanese fast food place/etc) don't draw huge crowds. However a major concentration of retail/food outlets (such as a few blocks down Robson) will maintain a pretty steady flow throughout the day as everybody loves shopping and eating.
     
     
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Will Be Interesting to See the Change

As L'Hermitage (with Homesense and IGA marketplace and a couple of other smaller retail spaces), L'Atallia (spelling?), TV Towers, and the other building (office / retail) all opening within 1 block of that corner - and other projects within a few - it will be interesting to see how the pedestrian traffic patterns change in the next couple of years. I imagine it could become a much more active part of the pedestrian life of the city in that part of town, especially if some of the other buildings beyond L'Hermitage have retail or restaurant spaces as well.

I don't expect it would ever match the part of Robson a few blocks away, but it should stretch the street life more into that area.
     
     
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Yeah that exact intersection is sortof in a weird zone, as it has not filled in like the rest of the area seen in that shot. It is a weird transition block from the density of Yaletown to the Office towers on georgia and stadiums to the east. When the projects johnjim finish up expect that area to look much more like Yaletown in terms of denisty and street traffic, ie: mediocre during the day but quite vibrant in the evenings and on weekends. Lets hope some nice restaurants and new mid sized office developments (ie telus parkade) help bring that area along even more.
     
     
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Yeah that exact intersection is sortof in a weird zone, as it has not filled in like the rest of the area seen in that shot. It is a weird transition block from the density of Yaletown to the Office towers on georgia and stadiums to the east. When the projects johnjim finish up expect that area to look much more like Yaletown in terms of denisty and street traffic, ie: mediocre during the day but quite vibrant in the evenings and on weekends. Lets hope some nice restaurants and new mid sized office developments (ie telus parkade) help bring that area along even more.
I think the lesson for the developers will be to build mixed-use buildings so that the area is never completely dead or completely overloaded. If you ever go to the few restaurants right at the easternmost end of Robson Street, right near the stadium, they are completely empty for most of the month, apart from hockey nights, and then they are packed. This is very tough for a business.
I know of at least one high-end sports restaurant that opened in that area when the Canucks had a good shot at the Stanley Cup. When they burned out, the restaurant was left with high rents in a brand new space, and no play-off business. They failed that year and the space sat empty until the next hockey season, when a new brave entrepreneur took it over.

Having a mix of offices and residents in that area would at least ensure some stability to retail businesses, which would help the area establish itself. I think we need that end of Robson to develop - and not just as an extension of the high-street chain store lines in central Robson, but with more of the priced-out-of-Yaletown independents.
     
     
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Agreed that when the IGA and the Homesense open up, the pedestrian traffic at Future Shop & Winners will migrate down. The Telus building (housing a Telus store) and the adjacent parking lot (to be redeveloped) create a bit of a void zone. The L'Aria on Robson retail space is probably the best of the recent retail built in the area. Part of the R&R retail is actually office space for the Blanche MacDonald modelling agency.

One of the problems with Robson east Burrard is that the street grid has changed from the west side of Burrard - so you don't have the extra long blocks that trap pedestrian traffic to create a critical mass. Essentially, the Robson Street frontage is the "end" of the block, not the "face" of the block. Not only that, but you have alleys crossing the sidewalk. Overall, pedestrians can distribute more by turning down side streets and alleys.
By comparison, in the area east of Burrard, Granville Street is better suited to be a retail street because has the long blocks and you can "stroll" down it more easily .

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BTW - the old Carlos & Bud's site has a sign on it that mentions a new City Park (i.e. from the developer (ONNI?) as part of a project on the site) - anyone know details? Or could it be a swap of the entire site's density to a big tower?
I always drive by too fast - I'll try to slow down the next time to actually read the sign!

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Business in Vancouver November 20-26, 2007; issue 943

Real estate roundup

Vancouver hotels atop wanted list for real estate investors in B.C.

But condo sales are lagging behind supply in areas of Metro Vancouver

Buy hotels, hold the rest

The local council of the Urban Land Institute hosted a discussion last week focusing on the recent PricewaterhouseCoopers report on emerging trends in real estate for the year ahead.

While the report focused largely on U.S. markets, a summary of local details highlighted bullish prospects for British Columbia’s economy thanks to a booming commodities sector, strong port traffic and bustling tech players.

While residential and commercial markets face high prices for limited supplies of product, one of the sectors for which PricewaterhouseCoopers found the most bullish sentiments was hotels. Those surveyed for the report expressed the greatest confidence in Vancouver hotel assets, which drew more votes of confidence than either retail, industrial, office or apartment properties.

“The 2010 Winter Olympic Games is also a growth driver and, accordingly, 44.7% of respondents give Vancouver a buy recommendation for hotel property,” the report states.

The survey indicated that Calgary ranks as the best bet for hotel investors, with 53.5% tagging hotels a buy.

By contrast, 43.5% of survey participants consider Vancouver retail assets a buy; 41.3% consider industrial properties a buy while 36.7% give office properties a buy recommendation. That’s just above the 34.1% buy rating for multi-family rental properties, which 54.5% of survey respondents considered good assets to hold.

The asset class in Vancouver most subject to a sell rating? Even here, just 16.3% of respondents would sell their office holdings, with the majority – 46.9% – ranking it a hold.

Sales lag starts

Whatever residential investors told researchers for PricewaterhouseCoopers’ trends report, those who track the local condo market for PwC are reporting lagging sales in the Lower Mainland even as marketing starts stay strong.

This isn’t quite what one would expect given talk at various industry meetings through this year of a disciplined response to shifting market conditions (or so this observer understood).

Still, the facts as gathered by PwC speak for themselves: during the three months ended September 30, developers began marketing 3,765 apartment and townhouse units while sales for the same period totalled approximately 2,680 units. Among the areas PwC singled out for notable imbalance was Burnaby/New Westminster, where the inventory of unsold units rose from 315 units at the beginning of July to 825 units at the end of September.

Still, as Robyn Adamache, senior market analyst for Vancouver and the Lower Mainland told those attending the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp.’s annual housing outlook conference in early November, an uptick in the number of newly built, unabsorbed homes hasn’t pushed the inventory anywhere close to the historical average.

Adamache reported just 153 new apartment condos as available to buyers in the Vancouver metropolitan area. While the greatest number north of the Fraser were in the Burnaby/New Westminster area (19), White Rock accounted for 28.

Commercial construction gains

The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. expects residential building activity to dip next year, but don’t expect the decline to run across the board. Word from Scotiabank is that new commercial construction and infrastructure projects will drive the construction sector even as home starts slow.

While fallout from a deepening global credit crunch will tighten cash flows into commercial construction, Scotiabank reports unsatisfied demand in the non-residential sector as a whole, that will drive projects forward. Indeed, this year saw an above-average growth in the sector of 7% nationally.

The Vancouver Regional Construction Association reports a 3.7% increase in non-residential building permits across the Lower Mainland for the first nine months of this year versus the same period in 2006. Growth was driven by commercial permit values, which rose 28.4% to $1.5 billion, offsetting hefty declines of 25.3% and 40.9%, respectively, in industrial and institutional permit values. •
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Business in Vancouver November 20-26, 2007; issue 943

Landmark city pharmacy packs bags for Kerrisdale

Kripps Pharmacy is vacating its Granville location, renewing debates over rent, parking and transportation

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Kripps Pharmacy is leaving its 60-year location on Granville Street, fleeing the area’s increasing rent and decreasing accessibility, say its owners, not to mention flying beer bottles.

Established by the Kripps family in 1947, the pharmacy will vacate Granville at the corner of Nelson at the end of the month, for the cheaper, safer and more vehicle-friendly streets of Kerrisdale.

Dr. Edward Thorpe has run the pharmacy since 1979 with his wife Bonnie Kripps Thorpe, a daughter of its original owners.

A couple of months ago, a beer bottle was thrown through the pharmacy storefront sign, which for many Vancouverites has for years been an immediately recognizable part of the Granville street façade. Thorpe had already decided before then that there was no room for a pharmacy, in what has become known as Vancouver’s “entertainment district.”

Thorpe said that many of his customers live in Vancouver’s outlying areas and beyond, and in particular in Kerrisdale. “My demographic is people that drive, they own their own houses, they own their own cars,” he said.

He added that parking meter prices continue to increase as the number of parking spots decrease. “There’s no place else to park, because now there are highrises going up in the parking lots; they’re being cannibalized by highrises.”

The move will involve a downsize. Its Granville location occupies roughly 5,500 square feet, while its new location at 5413 West Blvd. is 1,500 square feet.

Kripps has never required all the space it has on Granville, said Thorpe, but the rent was always cheap enough that there was no reason to move. And although the building has had no major renovations in 30 years, Thorpe said the price of the lease has gone “through the roof.”

Transit service, which at one time had a stop in front of Kripps, has been rerouted to accommodate Canada Line construction. “There’s not much you can do here, you’re at the mercy of accessibility and the accessibility has been going down markedly over the last 10 years.”

Henry Lee, president of Tom Lee Music, has also noticed the changing retail landscape of the downtown core, although his store – another downtown landmark – still does very brisk business. “There is more specialty retailers now that make use of the more trendy downtown core image.”

From its original location across the street, Tom Lee moved to its current location at 929 Granville in 1989. As chair of the Vancouver Board of Trade and a director of the Downtown Vancouver Business Improvement Association, Lee has lobbied the city on planning issues.

“I think you need all types of business to make a vibrant downtown,” he said. “A lot of this parking and public transit – they are the services that support these businesses.” There are 53,000 off-street commercial parking spaces in the downtown peninsula, and there are between 5,000 and 6,000 on-street spaces that are regulated for shorter term use.

Bob MacDonald, senior parking policy engineer with the City of Vancouver, said that the downtown has lost about 12,000 surface parking spaces since 1990, but has gained back those spaces in buildings and parkades.

“We’ve had long-standing policies that buildings should be more self-sufficient, and each new [commercial] building that goes up downtown is required to have a certain level of parking,” he said.

Some businesses depend more on the vehicle traffic, said MacDonald, while other businesses depend chiefly on pedestrians.

“The ones that depend on a lot of people being around are thriving, because you got a lot more employment downtown and a lot more residents.”

The downtown peninsula is able to accommodate another 25,000 workers. To encourage other forms of transportation into the core, the city is adding new sky trains to the existing line, as well as building the Canada Line. The city would have to increase the capacity of the area streets before it could encourage more vehicle traffic downtown, said MacDonald.

“In the context of Vancouver, that’s probably a non-starter. How are we going to put another arterial road downtown? That’s highly unlikely,” he said.

Mel McKinney, general manager of EasyPark Vancouver, the corporation that manages the city-owned parking spaces in downtown Vancouver, said that the city at this time has no plans to redevelop or replace any lost spaces.

“A loss of public parking stalls with no plans to replace those could create some hardships on the businesses in the downtown core.” •

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Business in Vancouver November 20-26, 2007; issue 943

2010 Gold Rush: Bob Mackin

With stadium future up in the air, B.C. sports hall of fame seeking new home

116 weeks until the opening ceremony of the 2010 Winter Olympics.

The British Columbia Sports Hall of Fame and Museum’s future, like that of B.C. Place Stadium, is uncertain.

Last summer it embarked on a search for a new location. Executive director Sue Griffin declined to say how many proposals were received and from what communities, but she’s reviewing the ideas. Meanwhile, she waits for a definitive decision on the dome’s future. BC PavCo chairman David Podmore was supposed to submit his recommendations to Victoria in October.

The hall’s B.C. Place Stadium lease expires in 2012. Dome management are booking events up to and including 2012.

“It’s crucial for us that we have retail space, so easily accessible to the public and community,” Griffin said.

Ideally, she’d like to stay put. Attendance is on the rise as curious tourists want to learn some of the Olympic province’s sports history and step inside the only 2010 venue that will be active for every day of the Games. Griffin knows there are further opportunities ahead. Selling Olympic merchandise is one. The hall could become the 2010 museum for generations to come.

“Look at the 2010 Games as a book in four chapters: one would’ve been the bid, the second would’ve been the infrastructure, third is the Games and fourth is the legacy,” she said. “It’s our desire to work in partnership with VANOC and other organizations to create a living legacy now.”

The hall faces short-term uncertainty, too. Griffin said meetings would begin soon with VANOC to discus how it can operate during the Games amid the expected tight security around the dome. The hall has the potential to be one of the busiest tourist attractions in the city during the Games and a sought-after site for hospitality use by a corporation, national Olympic committee or international sports federation.

In the meantime, the hall is increasing its community relations efforts. Look for inductees like Ross Rebagliati, Silken Laumann, Lori Fung and Marni Abbott to act as grand marshals of the November 25 Rogers Santa Claus Parade.

Contracts awarded

Just nine days after its September 3 renewal as a global sponsor of the International Olympic Committee through the 2016 Summer Games was announced, Panasonic scored the public announcement system contract for Vancouver 2010.

Like all VANOC procurement postings, no dollar figure was disclosed.

That’s among the highlights of the latest wave of deals, published November 15.

Toronto-based CNW was named media distribution contractor on September 15, the same day New Jersey-based Factiva won the media monitoring contract. Factiva is under the DowJones Company umbrella that Rupert Murdoch now holds.

Integrated Warehousing Solutions is based in Downers Grove, Illinois, just minutes from Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport. It got VANOC’s logistics management system nod on October 15.

Synovate, part of London, England-based Aegis Group, and Ipsos-Reid, part of Paris-based Ipsos, join Canadian companies Angus Reid Strategies and Charlton Strategic Research on VANOC’s public opinion research roster. The shops were chosen September 21 and October 10.

Game logistics

Global courier giant DHL – a division of Deutsche Post World Net – is reportedly talking to the IOC about becoming official logistics partner for 2010 and 2012. Manulife Financial’s future remains fuzzy beyond Beijing 2008. It has not renewed. If it doesn’t, then that would mean the only Canadian TOP sponsor would not be on board for Canada’s Games.

Road work

A pre-2010 campaign is underway to rename the Sea to Sky Highway to honour Canadian war veterans. A noble idea, but simply slapping the word Veterans on Sea to Sky signs won’t suffice. Canada’s military isn’t just comprised of warriors of the sea (navy) and sky (air force), but also land (army). So it would have to become the Sea, Land and Sky Veterans Highway. Unwieldy? You bet.

Leave well enough alone and instead give dormant volcano Mount Garibaldi a new name. What the Squamish Nation once called Nch’kay (“dirty place”) was named after Italian revolutionary Giuseppe Garibaldi in 1860 by an Italian on Capt. Henry Richards’ survey ship. According to B.C. Place Names (Sono Nis Press), the patriotic surveyor spotted the mountain on Garibaldi’s birthday.

Today, it’s featured on everything from 2010 licence plates to VANOC press kits.
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Odd about the rezoning sign on the Downtown toyota site - the sign is no longer there. I was advised that it was probably either a printing error by the City, or a hoax - apparently the development company listed was "ABC Development" and the permit number was 123456.

If anyone sees any update on that, let us know.
I can fill you guys in on this one... the sign was definetly a Hoax or a test by the real developer... Pattison developments Ltd.

I have seen the plans and you will all be pleased to know that the plans as they stand right now call for a larger buildng than in the fake rezoning sign, as well as an additional tower. The development calls for one 40 storey tower at 350 ft, and a second hotel tower at 180 ft at its highest. The site is bisected by a viewcone so the smaller building will infact be cut in half and the second half will reach an elevation of 150 ft (think elan).

The toyota dealership will also be remaining on the site, and will take up a 3 storey glass curtainwall showroom on the Burrard side which looks fantastic. There also is additional square footage in a third townhome building, a large grocery store and retail at grade.

The two main towers are very nice architecturally, and although I cannot release the renderings lets just say One wall center and the Pacific Pallisades towers had a love child.
     
     
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Sounds nice!
Does the podium also reflect a curvilinear form/facade (hopefully!) or it it oval tower on square (boring) podium?
ANOTHER grocery store? Guess there's a void in that area. With Pattison - if its huge, it's gotta be a Save-on-Foods (i.e. full coverage in Vancouver with The Rise, and the Grandview store (with Cdn Tire) and Marine Drive if the Cdn Tire project goes through. I suppose it could also be yet another Urban Fare, but there's no "neighbourhood" at that location (a block off Davie).
     
     
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Sounds nice!
Does the podium also reflect a curvilinear form/facade (hopefully!) or it it oval tower on square (boring) podium?
ANOTHER grocery store? Guess there's a void in that area. With Pattison - if its huge, it's gotta be a Save-on-Foods (i.e. full coverage in Vancouver with The Rise, and the Grandview store (with Cdn Tire) and Marine Drive if the Cdn Tire project goes through. I suppose it could also be yet another Urban Fare, but there's no "neighbourhood" at that location (a block off Davie).
The podium as it stands now is square meeting the sidewalks with curved design features above the ground floor. One notable curved feature is a walkway linking the two towers above the alley/loading area.

And yeah I would imagine the grocery store would be a Save on considering its absence from the downtown market, and the developers loose ties with the company...
     
     
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