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Old Posted Nov 4, 2007, 10:25 PM
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I hate to ask, but what's an RFP?

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I believe that is a Request for Proposal.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2007, 10:26 PM
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RFP= request for proposal.

Its something that is issued when a company/city is wanting a project built. The RFP allows multiple developers/architects/engineers to compete for the project. They turn in thier designs to the city, and then the city decides which design fits the project site the best. Upon decision of the best design, they then award the project to that developer. And from there the project can move forward...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2007, 10:41 PM
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I did that but it doesn't seem to work for me. Sorry, I feel pretty dumb that I don't know how to or that it doesn't work for me.


I remember when I first joined this forum I had to ask for help also. The guys on here were nice and showed me how. It happens.
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2007, 11:22 PM
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Photo updates of projects. Pictures taken today.

Marmalade


Broadway Lofts


Kirtland Condos


One & Nine


Church History Building




Newport City View. This is just north of West High School.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2007, 12:17 AM
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that citiview is new to me....





I will add it to the list once i get home tonight.
     
     
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Newport Citiview, I hadn't even heard of it. Looks pretty nice and fairly upscale. This will be a great addition for that area. Looks like the Marmalade development is already attracting similar projects.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2007, 5:12 AM
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40 story tower???

I just got back from a family dinner at my parents place. I brought up the City Creek Center to my dad, because he used to do a lot of work on the old ZCMI mall. My uncle who works for a firm downtown and has his hand in many numerous development projects downtown at the moment filled me in on some details....

He went over many different projects. most of the stuff he told me I had already known about. He did tell me that in his office right now he has seen plans for a 40 story condominium tower . I asked him the timeline on that project. He told me that he didn't know when they'll go public with it. Says it may be a 1-2 years.

So, SLC breaks the 30 story limit, and we may soon break the 40 story limit as well... hehe
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2007, 5:32 AM
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Now that would truly be impressive. A 40 story condo tower. I was hoping tower 2 CCC would be along those lines but either way that will be exciting. I'm guessing if the initial proposal is 40 stories that it will get scaled down to 35 or so when and if it actually gets built.

I would assume that it would be somewhere in the CBD considering the height. I think a great place would be 200 S and State, Carls Jr. I know this site has been mentioned for WTC, but I think it will be to small for what it sounds like WTC wants, with several buildings and a plaza in the plans. The rendering on page one would be impossible without major demolition, including the Zims building, the smoke shop building the former Promised Valley Playhouse Building and its abortion attached parking garage and the monster Regent Street Parking garage. I would hate to lose the Zims, Smoke buildings and the Promised Valley facade. I think WTC should go on the City Center block, north of the City and County building.

With a 35-40 story residential tower there as well as the 25-30 story Cowboy tower and 100 S and State along with WTC on 400 S and State that would give the skyline some nice depth from the northwest, west and east and some nice width from the north and south.

Oh I just thought of another great project that a developer, maybe me in the future needs to tackle. I need to finish off the original exchange place plan that layed out similar buildings to the Boston and Newhouse on Main Street on the State Street end of the block. Maybe a similar design with materials but a little taller, or the same size, either way that would be a great addition and would nearly complete that block.
     
     
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40 stories? Dang I hope that's a reality.

I think it's really funny how a few years ago a downtown residential tower was a completely foreign idea to SLC but now there are plans for several of them, including this 40 story tower which, if real, could probably be a new tallest, assuming that it doesn't get scaled back, which it probably will. But if it's a reality then I'm stoked.

Also thanks for the pics T-mac. I'm really excited that there are a fair amount of new condos going in on the west side of town. They will really add to the city as a whole, or at least I'm hoping. Let the west side development keep coming.
     
     
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I will see if I can get a copy of the plans, or ask my brother to verify them for me since he works in the same office as my uncle.
     
     
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I would assume that it would be somewhere in the CBD considering the height. I think a great place would be 200 S and State, Carls Jr. I know this site has been mentioned for WTC, but I think it will be to small for what it sounds like WTC wants, with several buildings and a plaza in the plans. The rendering on page one would be impossible without major demolition, including the Zims building, the smoke shop building the former Promised Valley Playhouse Building and its abortion attached parking garage and the monster Regent Street Parking garage. I would hate to lose the Zims, Smoke buildings and the Promised Valley facade. I think WTC should go on the City Center block, north of the City and County building.

With a 35-40 story residential tower there as well as the 25-30 story Cowboy tower and 100 S and State along with WTC on 400 S and State that would give the skyline some nice depth from the northwest, west and east and some nice width from the north and south.

Oh I just thought of another great project that a developer, maybe me in the future needs to tackle. I need to finish off the original exchange place plan that layed out similar buildings to the Boston and Newhouse on Main Street on the State Street end of the block. Maybe a similar design with materials but a little taller, or the same size, either way that would be a great addition and would nearly complete that block.
The Promised Valley facade won't be going anywhere, at least in this century Future Mayor. Extensive conversion work was just completed recently on the building itself. Also that facade was a major point of battle and the preservationists won.

I'm interested and very enthusiastic about your goals for Exchange Place. I especially like the fact that you are excited about not only preservation, but rebuilding the beauty of past treasures. A future downtown SLC that is one of America's most attractive will have an eclectric mix of comtemporary style's along with even more of the great classics. My goal is to also restore and or recreate some of the great icons which have met the recking ball.


Here's a little blurb on the recent renovation:

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Promised Valley Theater Renovation in Salt Lake City, built by R&O Construction, was named the Project of the Year for Division III, Institutional, Preserving History. This design-build project involved renovating the structurally unsound 95-year-old theatre, including demolition of the existing auditorium and construction of a six-level, 150,000-square-foot, seven-story parking structure. The 29,000-square-foot lobby was renovated into office or retail space while preserving the historical integrity of the façade, according to the strict historic guidelines of the Department of Interior Standards for Historic Renovation.



The nine-month project included demolition of the existing playhouse — about 90% of the existing facility — the historical restoration of the front 10% of the building and conversion of the restored area into office/retail space. Pre-cast concrete was used to replace and replicate the theatre's stone and terracotta. According to R&O Construction, the biggest challenge faced during the renovation was coordinating with the city on trucking out the old and bringing in the new materials, a process that required close attention to scheduling.

Participating in the projects were: MHTN, architect; Richards Consulting, engineer; and Robert Casey, photographer.

Winners of this year’s Awards of Excellence demonstrate inventive use of technology, ingenuity in overcoming design and construction challenges and innovative use of energy-efficient features.


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I'm glad to hear it was a win for the historic preservationists. I worked in the area at the time they were aporting the building into a parking garage and parked in the upper levels of the Regent Street Garage. I cringed everyday when I saw they were converting a former theater into a parking garage. While I am glad the facade is there and will be for decades to come I still hate the fact that parking was choosen as the best use rather than a restored historic theater. Just another reason to save and restore the Utah. Has anyone heard any new regarding the fund raiser that was talked about regarding the restoration of the Utah?

It's been years since I saw the original plans for Exchange place but I will try to see if I can track those down. That would be a great street with the four similar buildings flanking it on both ends.
     
     
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Yeah, that was sad about the theatre portion itself. I think now with the substantial population increase in the Metro, the CCC and what will soon be a much more residential downtown, that size of theatre could have been able to sustain itself more easily.

Have you noticed that quasi-vacant corner to the south of the Commercial Club building,(one of my favorites) and to the east of the Grand building on 400 south? Right now there's just that little dowdy/ugly black rock something or other. Looks as if the original plans would have called for a tower there. Would sure like to see you build one with an original flare like the Boston or the Commercial Club buildings.

Here's an historical pic of Exchange Place during it's development/April 1909- You can see the old courthouse/post-office. I hadn't realized it was that old.



I think this is one of my favorite historical buildings in the Western U.S. In color its a major beauty. To the left would be an incredible site to build on.
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transit hub?

What is the status of the transit hub? I was in SLC in April and there was nothing going on. I thought they were going to expand the already new hub soon. If they are does anyone have any pics?

By the way, the mystery tower that some of you have been asking for was initially going to be presented at the unveiling of the CCC back last October, but they decided to hold off until a later date. The design concept had something to do with a salt or snow crystal. I didn't quite get it, either.
     
     
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Salt or snow crystal, huh??? Hmmm, it does sound kind of cool. I would like to see a tower that is a little more avant-garde.
     
     
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Yes the Commercial Club Building truly is a great looking building, although it is small I also like the Salt Lake Stock Exchange building across to the north. I would hate to develop anything south of the Commercial Building block the view from 4th S Maybe a 2-3 story retail space could be built with a nice restaurant and some open space.

I think a prime piece to develop, besides the east end with matching Boston and Newhouse buildings, would be the parcel across the street to the east of the Commercial Building, it's just a one or two story red brick building that looks like 70's or 80's era. A historic looking residential or commercial building to match the style of the remainder of the street. The only problem with the Newhouse and Boston East is that they just rebuilt the parking structure that the north one would sit on.

I took the liberty of adding the Boston and Newhouse East as well as outlined the space for new commercial or residential, as well as a small restaurant and plaza.

     
     
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orlando, any idea on when they will release the renderings or more information on this "mystery tower"....
     
     
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Future Mayor, clarify a couple of things for me. I like the Boston and Newhouse East concept. What are the restrictions if any on the current historical one story gallery which occupies those plots, and also the entire area you have marked in yellow and titled, 'Prime Development Space'? The linear-strip gallery is only one story, but it is historical, original, and fairly attractive. The area in yellow, which is marked as new small retail, is abutting the almost windowless, and very unfinished, (what would have been the originally hidden portions of the Commercial Club, New Grand and Newhouse buildings.) It is currently only occupied by a small building,(shanty really).All indications are that the corner marked as small retail was originally intended for a large building that would cover the unattractive backsides of what are otherwise very beautiful landmarks.

I'm thinking you could probably do something above and stepped back from the original strip-gallery, but it would probably also have to somehow assimilate the historical style of the gallery also. I doubt the city would allow the gallerys to be torn down and replaced.

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Future Mayor, clarify a couple of things for me. I like the Boston and Newhouse East concept. What are the restrictions if any on the current historical one story gallery which occupies those plots, and also the entire area you have marked in yellow and titled, 'Prime Development Space'? The linear-strip gallery is only one story, but it is historical, original, and fairly attractive. The area in yellow, which is marked as new small retail, is abutting the almost windowless, and very unfinished, (what would have been the originally hidden portions of the Commercial Club, New Grand and Newhouse buildings.) It is currently only occupied by a small building,(shanty really).All indications are that the corner marked as small retail was originally intended for a large building that would cover the unattractive backsides of what are otherwise very beautiful landmarks.

I'm thinking you could probably do something above and stepped back from the original strip-gallery, but it would probably also have to somehow assimilate the historical style of the gallery also. I doubt the city would allow the gallerys to be torn down and replaced.

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Delts that is good information to have regarding the one level historic building that I covered with yellow. It's been so long since I've really looked at those that block that I couldn't exactly remember what was there. I wouldn't propose removing anything historical. I do like the idea of a set back that would match the character of the block. Maybe a 4-5 story residential or office space set back and above the gallery.

As for the smaller portion, again I couldn't quite recall how high up the bare walls went on the Commercial and New Grand. I would propose a nice building that maximizes the height of the bare walls.

I'll have to refresh my memory of the block when I'm in town in December. Then maybe I'll start brainstorming some ideas. That project will have to be put on my list, althought I'm not sure if it will go 2 or 3 on the list yet. I guess I'll have to see how project number 1 goes first.
     
     
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Viper.. the possible 40 story tower was NOT part of CCC, right? Hopefully this pans out. Hope you can get your hands on the drawings.

Interesting, Orlando. tell us more!
     
     
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