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Old Posted Sep 25, 2007, 6:13 PM
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A bit late in posting a comment/response on the Traffic Bridge (it will always be the Victoria Bridge to me) light display. I too thought the city did a great job with the fireworks display and there was a really good turn out from city residents. We arrived too late to take in the preceeding entertainment, but I heard that it was very good, as well.

Now for the bridge itself....I was very disappointed. It screams Tacky and Vegas and Midway ride lights to me. I do agree that the lighting at the end of the evening (I believe it was a combination of blue and white) was more tasteful, but overall, I think it has cheapened the look of this historic structure. Perhaps they would have been better to illuminate it much like they have the University and Broadway bridges.

I hate to be a 'negative' responder, as I love to see new ideas and developments...but this one just does not meet the standard.

Also, while down for the fireworks, we wondered over to the Prairie Wind installment. Although I think the impact of this would be far greater if it was higher (even half again as high), it was neat to see people meandering around and through the installation. Up close, it is a bit more interesting then from afar.

And finally, I sure hope the whitewater park proposal continues to gain steam. There have been a number of negative comments on it, but I heard the the general tone from the first public input meeting was quite supportive.
     
     
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Global News reported this evening Cameco Corp. has begun a feasibility study for a 3 level, 66,000 square foot addition (underground parking as well) at the companies 11th street head office (SW Holiday Park industrial). Cost estimates range in 20-40 million IIRC. Cameco also has tenative plans to relocate 80 employees to the ground level of the former Bayside building (Ashley/Konto furniture).

Global also stated Cameco is still assessing its options for relocating its head office downtown, but that they must address current constraints with short term solutions (e.g. a 66,000 addition?).

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So what does this all mean?

Current interest and development of downtown (Lake Placid $125 million proposal specifically) signals confidence to other potential developers, confidence=potential for investment likely.....but how soon, to what degree?

Cameco is quite cautious (rightly so) and weighing all of its options (feasibility study for an addition to 11th street operations). If I am not mistaken, they own their current office and surrounding property.....how much could they sell or lease the space for?

Has Cameco received a developers formal proposal for a downtown head office? If so, who? where? what? A complete listing of all the owners of downtown property would allow us to eliminate quite a few sites due to location, size of property, restrictions, but ultimately it depends who owns a potential development site, what if any experience they have in development or their intentions (if any) to develop.......ahhhh deep speculation is my favorite past time

Completion and assessment of a feasibility study for a 66,000 square foot addition = 1-3 months.

Approval of Lake Placid......Greater than 1-3 months.....if that has any bearing on Cameco's decision (Lake Placid = 4 level, 62,430 sq foot mixed use commercial (although the first level is termed CRU???), 2008-2010 timeline, estimated cost $20 million)
     
     
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The thought of Cameco not moving downtown and simply expanding on 11th St. makes me feel physically ill. I desperately hope that a downtown property owner/developer is on the ball with this.

Star Phoenix/TV news stories seem to indicate that Cameco genuinely wants to be downtown.. but again, the right deal has to come their way.

I do find the placement of 80 employees in the Bayside quite encouraging. It almost seems like they're testing the waters of what it's like for some of their employees to work downtown. On the other hand, it could be completely because of space constraints and they need office space right now. But surely they could have found office space in buildings/office parks elsewhere in the city in suburban or industrial areas. Surely the rent at the Bayside will be steep compared to office space in an industrial area. Does anyone see something here? Like they're trying to establish themselves downtown for good, even in this small way ..?

I also wonder about the consequences of Cameco staying put on 11th. How competitive will they be in the future recruiting young professionals when they're located in an industrial area on the edge of the "hood"? To attract young professionals of the "creative class" it would be in their best interests to be downtown where urban amenities and housing is nearby.
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I find it weird that they would be willing to spend 15 - 20 mil on a temp. solution. put that towards a new tower!
     
     
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New digs for Cameco
Tenders are out for new office building near headquarters
Murray Lyons, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Cameco Corp. has tenders out with the Saskatoon construction industry to build a three-storey office building across the street from its current 11th Street West corporate head office.

The building will accommodate the uranium giant's growing head office staff, but Cameco spokesperson Lyle Krahn says this won't preclude the company from a potential future relocation of its head office to a downtown office tower. The future move could house what the company expects may soon be as many as 800 Saskatoon-based employees.

As one of the immediate moves Cameco is making to solve its current space crunch, the mining company has also signed a lease in a prominent downtown building, taking the first floor of the former Bayside building.

"These are both interim measures and ultimately we will decide to either build at our existing location or a downtown location," Krahn said. "We're still working through our feasibility study and looking at opportunities.

"It is obviously a significant decision for us and we want to take the time to do it right."

Krahn says Cameco needs to be satisfied it has met is own needs and done the right thing for Saskatoon as well. He says it is possible that a development partner proposes a deal on a head office that could accelerate the process.

While he was reluctant to comment on specific proposals that Cameco has received, he did confirm that one place Cameco won't be going is River Landing. Krahn says height restrictions within the office portion of the Lake Placid group's office-hotel-condominium proposal would preclude Cameco from being part of that development.

Meanwhile, one of Cameco's criteria in the design of the new office structure it is building just south of 11th Street is that it be the type of office structure that would easily find a buyer in the resale market. Cameco owns the site of the new building, which used to be occupied by Hertz Bus Lines

"The building is an interim measure," he said. "It would house about 200 to 250 people. We'd start construction this year on it.

"It will be a separate, stand-alone building and it will be very appropriate to sell it should we choose to move to a different location and the building could easily be sub-divided."

Ever since Cameco let it be known that it was interested in building a new head office downtown, commercial property investors have made pitches to the company to buy the current head office which has been expanded at least once since it was built in the early 1990s.

Cameco's rapidly growing head office staff, plus the presence of some 70 consulting engineers and contractors in its building, has meant Cameco has had to take a two-pronged approach for its immediate space needs, Krahn says.

"Certainly there has been steady growth in the company, but these are really measures trying to anticipate future growth right now and look at expansion," he said. "We're very tight right now in our building and what these measures will do is buy us a number of years while we proceed with the longer-term plan."

By next spring or summer, there will be up to 80 Cameco employees working downtown when the company takes over as the main tenant of the former Bayside building that has been the Ashley/Konto furniture retail location for the past two years. Krahn says it has not been determined which employees will be moving out of 11th Street to come downtown.

Earlier this month, the Saskatchewan Workers Compensation Board confirmed it will be taking the second floor of the former Bayside building located on Second Avenue North.

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Downtown comes alive
Heart of city beats strongly
Cassandra Kyle, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2007



When Janalee McBee heard the buzz about Saskatoon's downtown, she couldn't refuse the chance to come home and run a boutique on First Avenue.

The retailer, who left Saskatoon in 1993 and spent time living in Calgary, Vancouver and San Francisco, packed up her California life and moved back to the Bridge City in January, taking the position of store manager at First and Current Clothing for Women.

McBee said she can't imagine a better downtown for small-business owners than the one in Saskatoon. With professional employees boosting the area's population during the week, and festivals, restaurants and entertainment drawing crowds on the weekends, there is no lack of visitors to the store.
After spending years away from Saskatoon, Janalee McBee has come home to run a new women's clothing boutique on First Avenue SouthView Larger

"From what I can remember about it from years back, there wasn't much going on downtown," said McBee. "Now, it's the place to be.

"A lot of the people who come in the store are coming in because they're walking by."

Glad to be a working part of a growing economic community, McBee was one of four downtown businesspeople who shared stories about the positive atmosphere in the district during a Tuesday morning gathering to celebrate the area's success.

The Experience Downtown Rally, organized by The Partnership, a group dedicated to improving the city's downtown, drew about 300 people to the Bessborough Hotel to reinforce a strong community spirit and discuss the next step for advancement.

Terry Scaddan, executive director of The Partnership, said Saskatoon's downtown has done so well partly because of a re-investment in the area.

"A city is judged by its downtown, and our downtown receives the benefit of the optimism in the businesses here," he said, citing projects such as River Landing and the Persephone Theatre.

According to The Partnership, the area's good reputation is growing. In a recent survey conducted by the organization, 87 per cent of their 750 respondents said they would recommend a visit downtown to friends or out-of-town guests, and 31 per cent would consider a move to an urban lifestyle downtown.

The response to the rally and the continued health of the district are signals that Saskatoon's downtown is very much alive and growing, Scaddan said.

The rally also served as a platform for The Partnership to introduce a new marketing scheme for the district.

Experience Downtown Saskatoon: They're coming. Let's build it! is a brand that will advance an already vibrant retail, professional and residential community in the heart of the city, said Scaddan.

Along with the marketing plan, the executive director announced the return of a free shuttle service between Downtown, Riversdale and Broadway. The Crescent Shuttle will be operated by Saskatoon Transit.

But Saskatoon-raised Dave Denny doesn't need statistics to tell him he has a hot property in a hot district. Moving back to the city from New Orleans after hurricane Katrina, Denny purchased Regency Plaza on Third Avenue. The apartment/retail space is 100 per cent occupied, and Denny isn't surprised.

"The world is coming here. We have the energy, the potash and the ethanol -- it doesn't matter how you want energy -- oil, uranium, that is Saskatchewan and I don't think anyone has any idea what is on the horizon. It's going to be huge," he said.

The emergence of Saskatoon's downtown may help build the city's cultural identity, not only for residents, but visitors as well, Denny explained.

"When you think of Montreal and New Orleans, the places I've been, and people think about them positively, what they think of is the downtown," he said. "I think it's vital to the identity of the city.

"Combine that with the economic growth that's going to be huge here, and we should think on a whole new scale what our downtown is going to be like."
     
     
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Bold visionary sets sights on city
Randy Burton, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Michael Arth doesn't shy from self promotion. The artist, urban designer and developer even went so far as to make a movie about himself.

But Arth is also something of a prophet and if he gets his way he will be creating a promised land on the very edge of Saskatoon.

The Florida developer is the creator of a concept in urban design he calls the New Pedestrianism, based on the notion that building living environments primarily for the automobile has been destructive for humanity.

He is working on a new neighbourhood, which could be built near Furdale in Corman Park, that would instead have pedestrians as the main focus. Homes would be built facing a pedestrian park while cars would be restricted to streets running along the backside of the homes.

If it proceeds, the village would be designed in such a way that people living there would be within walking distance of retail, professional and recreational services, but would still be able to drive into the city for employment.

The idea is to create an environment where people can walk out their front door into a park where they can meet with neighbours and commute to amenities without having to use or compete with cars.

In a world in which the car is king, and in a city where brutal winter weather can clear the streets of all the most hearty, Arth's vision of a 1920s-style village with picket fences and tree-lined boulevards might seem to be more dream than possibility.

But Arth has already taken an even more fantastic dream and turned it to reality. In 2001 he left his home in California for a slum in one of the oldest communities in Florida. He bought up a handful of inner-city properties just off the main course in DeLand and converted an area that had been known as Crack Alley into what is now the Historic Garden District.

The area had been home to the homeless and a place where prostitutes plied their trade in broad daylight, while drug addicts harassed citizens, occupied vacant buildings and burned down the homes of people who pushed back.

According to reports in the Orlando Sentinel, Arth hired some of those same homeless people to clean the streets, plant trees and convert the homes he bought from very willing sellers or that had been taken over by the city, and within a couple years gentrified the neighbourhood.

In the process, he worked to convert the area into its pre-automobile glory and address the ills he believed the car had brought to the neighbourhood. As Mike Lafferty, a columnist with the Sentinel put it, "Out went the crack dealers and in came the renters."

But the development didn't reach the heights of pedestrianism Arth was looking for. And it didn't solve the problems of the homelessness. So he went back to the drawing board and designed a truly pedestrian village that could be used not only to house but also help the homeless.

Before he could see that dream come to fruition, however, the U.S. economy stalled, then took a dive.

That's where Saskatoon comes in.

Saskatoon's thriving economy and rapid growth is the perfect Petri dish to try grow a village that could be unique in the world.

Glen Grismer, Corman Park's planning director, was well aware of Arth's philosophy. Not only does he teach the tenets of new pedestrianism to his University of Saskatchewan students, Grismer has met Arth and finds him to be an "innovative thinker and dynamic personality," he told me recently.

When a property owner came to him to discuss developing a unique sort of neighbourhood, Grismer put him in contact with the Florida developer. Arth came to Saskatoon to check out the possibilities, and will be back in October.

Although neither Arth nor Grismer would say who the property owner is, Arth pointed out he has about 1,400 acres on the very edge of the city, surrounded by golf courses. It is tailor-made to become the world's first true pedestrian village, designed and built from scratch.

The idea of such a community fits in nicely with concepts Saskatoon planners have already adopted in the city's newest neighbourhoods, according to Lorne Sully, manager of the planning department.

For example, Hampton Village, Willow Grove and Rosewood are all communities designed on the village concept, where services will be within walking distance and there will be a village square, he said.

Arth's idea of designing the neighbourhood so cars would be kept to the back of the homes is simply taking the notion one step further.

The idea of reducing the presence of automobiles allows the design of the neighbourhood to be more open and ultimately better for the individuals living there and for the environment, Sully said.

Grismer is quick to point out that Corman Park has neither received a proposal for the development nor is it looking for one. But none of the challenges to the proposal posed by Saskatoon's climate or layout would be insurmountable, he said.

Ultimately its success or failure will hinge on whether Saskatoon people are ready to try something unique.

Arth will be in Saskatoon on Oct. 14 when his movie, New Urban Cowboy: the Labors of Michael E. Arth, premiers at the Broadway Theatre. He is to be introduced by renowned Saskatoon-based author Yann Martel.

It will be interesting to see if his ideas are as attractive to potential residents as they are to professional planners.

Arth, who has already drawn up some plans for the neighbourhood, believes the project will proceed if it gets the OK from civic leaders, either in the RM or by Saskatoon's council if the land is annexed by the city.

It will also depend on whether people step forward with ideas on how they would like to see this neighbourhood -- one that could become a model for development around the world -- should proceed.


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City, developers pushing hard to service lots
More than 3,400 residential sites expected to be serviced this year
Lori Coolican, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2007

It's been a busy summer in some of Saskatoon's newest suburbs.

By the end of this year's construction season, work crews should be finished installing services to 2,347 new single-family and multi-unit residential lots for the City of Saskatoon, city manager Phil Richards told city councillors at a committee meeting this week.

Private developers expect to service another 1,064 lots on their own, bringing the total to 3,411 potential new homes.

"We're doing well. I suppose we'd like to do better, but we did have a goal of 2,000 units ourselves, and so we have exceeded that," Richards said in an interview Tuesday.

Foundations have already been dug on some of the newly serviced lots.

About 950 single-family residential lots in Willowgrove and Hampton Village should have some or all services installed by the end of the year, though some of those lots will have only water and sewer connections without any shallow bury utilities such as gas and electricity, according to a report from infrastructure officials.

"There is a concern that some of the shallow bury utilities may not be completed by the end of the season," it states. "SaskEnergy has brought in extra crews to meet their commitments. The administration has met with SaskPower outlining our concerns."

Construction of streets and sidewalks will not be done until next year for many of the future crescents and bays planned in the two new suburbs, the report notes.

Municipal engineering manager Cal Sexsmith said work on the new streets and sidewalks this summer was slowed by a "shortage of industry capacity." The contractors hired for those jobs are struggling with the ongoing labour shortage in the construction industry, he told the committee. "They just can't get enough people to keep their machines busy."

City council approved an accelerated lot-servicing program in January at the urging of local homebuilders and developers, due to a backlog from previous years and increasing demand for housing in the local market.

Saskatoon and Region Homebuilders Association CEO Alan Thomarat noted the city's latest numbers include residential lots which were supposed to be serviced and ready for construction last year. It's important for the city to keep up this year's pace -- or even accelerate it -- in 2007 and beyond, he said.

"We still need to see in the range of, at the very least, 2,500 multi-family and single-family lots combined, and we need to start to approach 3,000 units per year at the very minimum, within the near term for the next couple of years, just to help us deal with the pent-up demand that we're feeling."

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The Florida developer is the creator of a concept in urban design he calls the New Pedestrianism, based on the notion that building living environments primarily for the automobile has been destructive for humanity.

He is working on a new neighbourhood, which could be built near Furdale in Corman Park, that would instead have pedestrians as the main focus. Homes would be built facing a pedestrian park while cars would be restricted to streets running along the backside of the homes.

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Interesting idea, but it worries me that they plan these sorts of things outside of the existing city. Sure the communities will be pedestrian friendly, but there will still be the draw of the city and no way to get there but drive. Reaslistically, these kinds of communities cannott provide for all needs of their residents, who are then forced to drive to the city anyway. It seems a little like people giving up a 2 year old efficient small car to buy a Prius. The perceived advantages are far outweighed by the real costs, but it looks sexy and trendy. Pedestrian freindly neighborhoods are a great idea, but they need to be connected (for non car transportation) to other such neighborhoods, to be truly advantageous.
     
     
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Interesting idea, but it worries me that they plan these sorts of things outside of the existing city. Sure the communities will be pedestrian friendly, but there will still be the draw of the city and no way to get there but drive. Reaslistically, these kinds of communities cannott provide for all needs of their residents, who are then forced to drive to the city anyway. It seems a little like people giving up a 2 year old efficient small car to buy a Prius. The perceived advantages are far outweighed by the real costs, but it looks sexy and trendy. Pedestrian freindly neighborhoods are a great idea, but they need to be connected (for non car transportation) to other such neighborhoods, to be truly advantageous.
I had heard Corman Park was planning to develop their land for more residential.....but I would have never guessed a "New Pedestrianism" structured community.

psych1, I share your criticisms of Corman Park's potential for residential development.....residents will still require an automobile for employment and consumer goods not available within the community. However, if the new community has an adequate amount of services and consumer wants: coffee shop/grocery store/clinic/dentist/doctor/pharmacy/liquor store/art gallery?/gym?......I'm sure we could add more If residents have everything they need or want (doubtful), the concept has the potential to reduce automobile use....in their own private kingdom.....for the rest of us living in the city, expect more single-occupant vehicles.

I am curious what the desired/targeted final population and demographic makeup of a fully developed Corman Park New Pedestrianism community is......middle aged couples? families? retired couples? young professionals? Depending what level of services, pricing, my bet would be upper middle to high income families (bus to school?) and retired couples.

I really think this sort of concept would be maximized within the city......University land = College Quarter

Regardless, an interesting development.

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Alright I've been researching New Pedestrianism and what Arth may have planned for Corman Park, I encourage all to visit his website for more information.

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FIXING SPRAWL AND FIXING THE FIX

The New Urbanism movement was, and is, an attempt to change this. New Urbanism had its first stirrings in 1960s with the publication of Jane Jacobs’ The Death and Life of Great American Cities. But it was not fully born until the early 1980s with the design and construction of Seaside, a new beachside town in the Florida panhandle. Seaside, designed by husband and wife team, Andrés Duany and Elizabeth Plater-Zyberk, revived traditional town planning concepts and coupled it with architecture that combined the new with the old. This husband and wife team, and other urban designers, then went on to found the Congress for the New Urbanism.24 Today there are many New Urbanist developments around the world, where attempts are being made to make the cities livable again.

New Pedestrianism addresses the shortcomings of New Urbanism, which has often been compromised by having to overcome institutionalized planning laws. When New Urbanism is hybridized with sprawl development, as in compromised pseudo New Urbanism, the result is development that is still dysfunctional and car crazy. The most successful examples of New Urbanism include the first new town, Seaside, and it’s sister, Rosemary Beach, which actually has boardwalks in front of some of the houses. There is no reason why new towns and neighborhoods cannot be built with the same charm and attention to detail that attended these resort villages.

All new and old towns, even the best of the New Urbanist developments, lack elements that could resolve the transportation, ecological, social, and quality of life issues. Reviving traditional urban design by itself does not adequately address the fact that there are more cars on the road, nor does it sufficiently separate cars from pedestrians and bicyclists. In 2004, I founded a design and development company, Pedestrian Villages Inc., which will endeavor to build new neighborhoods and towns that follow these principles:

1. Attractive, tree-lined streets for automobiles are located behind homes and businesses. Garages are located at the rear, and driveways are deep enough for parking behind the garage or carriage house.

2. A tree-lined pedestrian lane 12’ to 15’ wide is located in front. The houses are built close to what is a quiet and charming linear park. Front porches, picket fences, and small gardens will take the place of wide expanses of water hungry lawn.

3. Guesthouses above the rear garage are encouraged, along with garden walls, gates, and trellises, in order to provide low cost housing, enhance the beauty of the automobile street at the rear, and increase density.

4. Every neighborhood and new town has a village center that everyone can access easily without a car. In a small neighborhood, minimum amenities would include a general store/café/restaurant, a neighborhood swimming pool and gym, a postal facility where everyone picks up their snail mail, a playground, a public transit stop, and a natural feature such as a pond, lake, river, or beach. Live/work offices or shops would also be encouraged.

5. Every village has a design review board to help insure that each new building is an asset to the community. Villages are laid out with concern for aesthetics, access, and livability.

6. Visual pollution: Utilities are underground. Billboards are forbidden and signage is minimized.

7. Villages are designed for future use including alternative energy sources, conduits for high-tech communications, and public transportation.

8. Urban Growth Boundaries with Greenbelt trails surround each village and connect to surrounding areas including any neighboring villages.

9. Traditional architecture is encouraged, front porches are required. Design review board mandatory. Certain “wild streets” are allowed with looser, more experimental design standards.

10. Formal street trees and drip irrigation are required at the time of initial development to establish the urban canopy. The streets are designed for both automobile and pedestrian safety.
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^ Wow. I"ve never heard of anything like that. So what kind of village is it? Do the tenants have to pay rent? Has it been proven successful?
     
     
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So the potential site is located near Furdale, surrounded by golf courses....I'm only guessing.
     
     
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After reading further, I would honestly welcome this sort of concept....even if the location of it (e.g. periphery) is less than ideal. Such a development within the city requires more effort due to the complexities, primarily the consultations with several parties, more design details/interactions to consider = more time consuming......maybe Corman Park's new community would be an example to follow for future West and NorthEast/East Saskatoon suburbs, and the College Quarter?

As it stands right now, I wouldn't pursue residence in such a community (love the downtown/river/university combo too much!). But I'm sure a New Pedestrianism community would appeal to many individuals and families. The use of automobiles is somewhat decreased (we'll never completely detach from them), and realistically the commute into the city would be no different than that of Stonebridge, future Rosewood, Willowgrove.....heck any community outside of Circle Drive.......Maybe the city would extend a bus route?

If the proposal is anything similar to Arth's previous designs, I say go for it

We need to experiment with new concepts like this....it will be a learning experience.....don't think of such a development as purely taking away from downtown development, or increasing our social and economic costs (although I would argue many of Saskatoon's current and future suburb designs do), there is more to this development than just another Saskatoon surburb IMO.

Arth has a great perspective on how people live/work and I would love to visit one of his communities for a complete experience, perhaps Corman Park will be my first

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+1. I was just trying to start a discussion and I would truly love to see this kind of development rather than the current burbs, although in the city would be better. I know that new initiatives in Saskatoon tend to get bogged down in a search for perfection (i.e. potentially River Landing), but I think an open discussion is important, as long as someone in authority, eventually has the nerve to pull the trigger and make a decision with less than 100% support.
     
     
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an open discussion is important, as long as someone in authority, eventually has the nerve to pull the trigger and make a decision with less than 100% support.
Yes Yes, and City Hall is doing a great job communicating and engaging private and public interests, to continued cooperation for a shared vision of Saskatoon.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2007, 10:56 PM
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Seems like a cool idea, but no matter how they design the subdivision, people will still drive unless everything (grocery stores, work, etc) is within walking distance. So I like the concept, but the location doesn't make any sense.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2007, 11:23 PM
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So I like the concept, but the location doesn't make any sense.
I too have praise for the concept, and the New Pedestrianism theory does address the excessive automobile use much more than our current crop of New Urbanism inspired neighborhoods (Willowgrove, Hampton Village).

Location: A New Pedestrian community would fit almost anywhere with residents still receiving great benefits through the linear walkways and centrally located services....but the benefits enjoyed by prospective residents and indeed the city are far greater when such a community is located within the city (College Quarter) to take advantage of efficient transit, and simply walking or cycling to work.

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I wonder how far along the University of Saskatchewan is in their plans to build more student housing on campus (last I heard they had conceptual designs....that was a year ago at least), and more importantly resolving issues and moving forward with the College Quarter concept.


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http://www.usask.ca/communications/ocn/07-feb-02/11.php



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Old Posted Sep 27, 2007, 1:28 AM
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New digs for Cameco
Tenders are out for new office building near headquarters
Murray Lyons, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2007


....Krahn says Cameco needs to be satisfied it has met is own needs and done the right thing for Saskatoon as well. He says it is possible that a development partner proposes a deal on a head office that could accelerate the process.
In other words, would a Calgary developer with lots of money please build something for us!
     
     
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