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Old Posted Aug 25, 2007, 7:57 AM
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I want some nice, but I don't think that means it has to look historical. A nice, solid material like brick would help the appearance, though.

i can a gree you with you, but Saskatoon does not have NEARLY enough historical buildings, doesnt anyone think it is sad that our downtown is almost completely ruined? and with this boom more buildings will fall. i have nothing rong with the boom our city is experiencing, i like it! but they dont make buildings like that anymore, so i think they should make it look as historical as possible
     
     
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A new potential development(no tower though, yet )



I also have been keeping tabs on a 2nd avenue site which might be seeing new development. It's just a few properties south of Furniture World, next to a computer store (Top Logix?). They demolished the structure and removed the concrete foundation. Currently an open pit and just a bit too small for underground parking, a basement? Curious.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2007, 1:10 AM
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went to cruise weeekend today, it waz nice to see how crowded our downtown can be, i also went to midtown and saw a design sketch for the ne food court they r making and expanding mabey some one has a pic to show it?
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^hey nice find saskftw.. that looks like an excellent project for our booming little warehouse district ..cant help but fear this project will go nowhere like tower 21 and that retail development on 8th and broadway

as for the midtown food court expansion, im quite impressed so far.. I've thought for years that the food court needed an updated look. and as for those new bathrooms, WOW!! does anyone have any idea of the occupants of the new retail space to be created by this project?
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..cant help but fear this project will go nowhere like tower 21 and that retail development on 8th and broadway
I thought the same thing. Just across the street from this site is an older 2 story building renovated into office space, as far as I know it's still seeking tenants.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2007, 9:30 PM
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There was a full page ad in today's SP that concerned me. It was advertising Ashley/Konto Furniture's "closing out sale" in their 2nd. Ave location in the former Bayside. It said that the building was going to be converted to office space. Does anyone know anymore details? And more importantly, where is Ashley/Konto Furniture moving to? *Please stay downtown, please stay downtown*

Another thing in the SP that disgusted me was a letter to the editor from a lady advocating moving the central library to a brand new location on the suburban limits with "sufficient bus routes" ....?!?!?!?! If I'm not mistaken, the Saskatoon Public Library is one of the most well used library systems in North America and it is NOT fitting or acceptable to have our central library on the city limits next to a Wal-Mart or who knows what. The Central Library needs to stay CENTRAL to continue to serve everyone's needs best- that of seniors, students etc. It is a hub of culture and an institution that belongs nowhere else than downtown. I guess it was foolish of me to expect that in 2007 Saskatoon residents be a bit more forward thinking than this...
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2007, 9:31 PM
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A photo update of River Landing.



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An Ashley Furniture/Konto Furniture ad in todays SP stated they were moving or closing because the building is being converted into office space, downtown office space > downtown furniture store ?
     
     
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There was a full page ad in today's SP that concerned me. It was advertising Ashley/Konto Furniture's "closing out sale" in their 2nd. Ave location in the former Bayside. It said that the building was going to be converted to office space. Does anyone know anymore details? And more importantly, where is Ashley/Konto Furniture moving to? *Please stay downtown, please stay downtown*

Another thing in the SP that disgusted me was a letter to the editor from a lady advocating moving the central library to a brand new location on the suburban limits with "sufficient bus routes" ....?!?!?!?! If I'm not mistaken, the Saskatoon Public Library is one of the most well used library systems in North America and it is NOT fitting or acceptable to have our central library on the city limits next to a Wal-Mart or who knows what. The Central Library needs to stay CENTRAL to continue to serve everyone's needs best- that of seniors, students etc. It is a hub of culture and an institution that belongs nowhere else than downtown. I guess it was foolish of me to expect that in 2007 Saskatoon residents be a bit more forward thinking than this...

No offence Country, but just imagine a large single level library out in the NorthEast section of the city! Maybe out on the site of the old Race track? Much more sense than a multi storey central location!
     
     
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downtown office space > downtown furniture store ?

I would rather see office space put into a new tower, not multiple 2 - 3 story buildings...
     
     
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Land costs are too cheap here, so you're not going to see an office tower! 2 to 3 storeys makes sense. you can spread out, have some flexibility with your floor plates.
     
     
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I would rather see office space put into a new tower, not multiple 2 - 3 story buildings...
Absolutely, but.....

What kind of effect will these mid-size office developments have on the potential of new office towers being constructed in downtown Saskatoon?

Perhaps local developers feel or have projected that a single office tower is not economically feasible unless several large firms (more than just Cameco) want to locate in the downtown.

Also, the prospect of existing downtown tenants expanding their employment numbers might not equate to an increased demand for office space in the downtown. PotashCorp, Vecima, Cameco may increase employment numbers but that doesn't necessarily translate into more demand for office space as some of the above employers have potential alternative sites for expanding operations.

Developers are either unsure how to project the Saskatoon downtown office demand, or they have a fairly good idea what the outcome will be and are minimizing their risk by building smaller office buildings just in case things take a turn for the worse
     
     
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Land costs are too cheap here, so you're not going to see an office tower! 2 to 3 storeys makes sense. you can spread out, have some flexibility with your floor plates.
So after a large inventory of 2-3 storeys are built we might see office lease rates climb and possibly a tower built as long as demand keeps up?
     
     
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No offence Country, but just imagine a large single level library out in the NorthEast section of the city! Maybe out on the site of the old Race track? Much more sense than a multi storey central location!
im not sure if this is a joke or not. i hope so.
     
     
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^I was thinking perhaps we could move the Frances Morrison Library to Dakota Dunes Casino? With the amount of foot traffic there and the regular shuttles, hell, it might fly...

"Dakota Dunes Casino: Come for the Blackjack. Stay for the Shakespeare."
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im not sure if this is a joke or not. i hope so.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2007, 8:14 PM
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Well the SP confirmed today that Ashley/Konto Furniture are indeed closing down, apparently not because of poor sales, but because selling the building for office space was a better opportunity for the owner. On the upside, the 2 floors are already fully leased and 180 people will be employed there. Ashley Furniture fully intends to re-launch in the S'toon market sooner or later...

Ashley Home Furniture, coming to a Saskatoon Big Box Centre near you!
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Ashley/Konto closure not a sign of hard times: owner
Murray Lyons, The StarPhoenix
Published: Thursday, August 30, 2007

The owner of a large downtown furniture store says Ashley Furniture Home Store did well in the Saskatoon market even though it is closing this month, less than two years after opening.

Giant, yellow close-out sale posters appeared on the building's windows earlier this week, and the company bought a full-page ad in The StarPhoenix Wednesday to announce the closing sale and that the building was being converted to office space.

"Opportunities and seasons change," said owner Brian Bird, saying speculation that Ashley's concept in furniture retailing hadn't worked was "absolutely not true."

The Ashley/Konto combination is supposed to be closed by the end of September so renovations can be made at a building originally known as Bayside to accommodate the office tenants.

"It's a positive move. It's not a negative move," Bird said Wednesday. "We are absolutely not in any financial trouble, nor have we ever been."

Bird says the two-storey retail space he bought and renovated in 2005 to house Ashley and his much longer-established Konto Furniture store can be put to more productive and profitable use as offices. He said a deal has been signed to lease both the street level main floor along First Avenue as well as the second floor.

"I cannot release who the tenants are because I am under confidentiality agreements," Bird said Wednesday. "I have two 'triple A' tenants. One is a government tenant and they are taking the entire second floor.

"One is a very large corporation and they are taking the entire main floor. The building is fully leased and there will be 180 employees working here."

Bird says Ashley, a U.S. company that manufactures furniture and runs an extensive retail network in the U.S., would likely want to continue immediately in another location in the Saskatoon market if there is suitable space.

He says Ashley is the No. 1 brand in North America and is willing to pay higher market rates to be in the best retail locations. He says the brand and the type of furniture sold by Ashley found a receptive market here.

"It will definitely, definitely relaunch in Saskatoon," he said. "There is absolutely no doubt about it. It's a matter of time now."

However, Bird would not say categorically he would relaunch the Ashley brand in Saskatoon, saying that would depend on what kind of retail space comes open in the future and how much he would have to pay for it.

"From Ashley's perspective, would they like me to relaunch? Without a doubt," Bird said. "Do I run a very clean, good store for them? Yes, there is no question of that."

Bird says the closure of the Ashley/Konto location does not affect his ownership of the Palliser Rooms store that he also owns. In addition, Bird says he has a separate furniture warehouse distribution centre

"That will stay in operation and that's where all the servicing is done," he said.

The building Bird is converting to offices was built in the mid-1980s as a companion shopping centre to the adjacent Bay department store. For the next 15 years, what was called Bayside was occupied by more than a dozen higher-end retailers, mostly locally owned companies.

Those retailers began leaving one by one to other spots downtown in the early part of this decade after the Hudson Bay Company moved the Bay department store to the former Eaton's space at Midtown Plaza. After the retailers left, the Bayside building was purchased by the former Heinze Institute of Technology, which turned the building into a campus for its various computer courses. However, the Bayside site turned out to be too much building for the private college and Bird bought the building after the Heinze Institute closed.

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In today's real estate guide, there is an advertisement for an open house on September 8th and 9th for The Rumley Distinctive Lofts on Pacific Avenue. I can't imagine they have a show suite ready, so this must be an opportunity for the public to view architectural plans for the project. There is no mention of price ranges in the add, but as has been mentioned before for this project, they are likely to start at a half million and up. They do provide a website address of www.rumleylofts.com, but it takes you to the agents page where you then have to register to view her properties. (I hate that!!)
     
     
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There are prices listed on the agents page. They start at 500k, and there are option for 600k, 700k, and nearly 900k if i remember correcty.
     
     
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