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Old Posted Jun 3, 2007, 3:00 AM
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In the article it mentioned the clothespin shape, and I guess people just had to many strong opinions against it, so they through it out.
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2007, 3:56 AM
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A couple more Crocker renderings -


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Old Posted Jun 3, 2007, 4:36 AM
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Nice renderings. Thanks for posting.
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2007, 4:08 PM
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The new Crocker addtion does look very Richard Meier -who designed the Getty but I believe Gwathmey Siegel is doing the work. I think budget and site constraints precluded a really dramatic/narcissistic design. In this case I prefer the more restrained, neo-modern design.
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2007, 4:59 PM
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Because it's a smaller city with a more nimble apparatus for approvals, and they're properly aggressive. The era of competition with them is a matter of the past. It's now time to cooperate, as is already happening on the River sheme, in regional planning. My only regret is that they don't also have I-5.
My complaint was not with WeSac as much as it was w/ Sac. I'm a prefectly happy with WeSac getting the Indian Heritage Center, the CHP HQ and possibly the new governor's residence. I never liked the particularly American habit of rivers diving a city-I prefer the Paris model. Obviously, West Sacramento shares a lot more common interests/goals with Central Sacramento than do Sacramento's far flung suburbs.

I think a site on the Sacramento River is actually much better -will be more accessible and builds more attractions on the river.
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Cool Skyscrapers

[QUOTE=TowerDistrict;2868118]hahaha, how's that for a welcome!

god I couldn't disagree more... in fact skyscrapers are probably more a byproduct of a desireable downtown, than the other way around.[/QUOT


A few skyscrapers with condos would make downtown more desireable. Is this the skyscraper forum????
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Its the Frankenstein Museum of Arts.
Its like they went to the museum parts store and bought bits of this and that and stitched it together. So ugly.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2007, 2:50 AM
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Speaking of the Crocker...looks like they got some more funds this past week.

The more and more I read about the expansion, this seems like one heck of an accomplishment in Sacramento. Hopefully there are more people out there willing to drop this much on civic institutes like this when the next big one rolls around. As I have said before, it really seems like philanthropy has really stepped up over the last few years.

Hey Ozone - Was that first comment on Sacebee.com yours? :-)

Even the Unity Center got into the mix as well
Tribe gives $1.5 million to Capital Unity Center


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Huge boost for museum
Crocker's top benefactors pitch in an extra $10 million for coming expansion
By Bobby Caina Calvan - Bee Staff Writer
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/203849.html

Two of the Crocker Art Museum's biggest boosters are reaching deeper into their pockets, each pledging an additional $5 million for a major expansion that would triple the size of a facility struggling to accommodate its burgeoning collection and supersized ambitions.

The $10 million infusion was announced at a fundraiser at Cal Expo on Saturday night, as the museum prepares to break ground next month on its new $85 million wing and launch a broader appeal for cash among the general public.

To date, the museum's capital campaign has relied on a relatively small group of benefactors -- 164, by the museum's count -- who have contributed $80 million of the $100 million goal.

The biggest contributor has been the Joyce and Jim Teel Family Foundation -- a product of the Raley's grocery fortune -- which announced on Saturday that it would add $5 million to its earlier pledge of $8 million.

Mort and Marcy Friedman, who chair the museum's fundraising campaign, also announced they would donate another $5 million to the effort, bringing their total contributions to $10 million.

"The story here is the unbelievable generosity" of the Teels and Friedmans "for their significant gifts," said Lial Jones, the museum's executive director. "They have been absolutely essential to our progress every step of the way."

"We have worked really hard to get to this point," said Joyce Raley Teel, an honorary co-chair for the museum's capital campaign. "My family is proud and privileged to give this gift to the Crocker, because it leaves this legacy."

The donations represent the region's heftiest philanthropic effort to support a cultural endeavor that has fared poorly in the competition for government funding. Arts funding has dropped precipitously in California in recent years. Last year, the state ranked last in the nation in per-capita spending -- just 6 cents per resident -- for art programs, a statistic that concerns boosters of the arts.

Museums such as the Crocker have had to increasingly rely on wealthy patrons to fund programs and major capital projects.

"You can't have a great city without extraordinary institutions," added Marcy Friedman.

The city, county and state have kicked in $18.5 million for the museum project -- although the sale of a nearby lot, near Capitol Mall and dubbed "Lot X," is expected to increase the city of Sacramento's contribution.

The Crocker is a joint partnership of the city and the Crocker Art Museum Association.

The Crocker's expansion, when completed in 2010, would expand the museum's footprint at Second and O streets, but also would undoubtedly extend its reach across the Valley -- and could help it to begin rivaling museums of greater size and stature.

"When this museum opens, it will be an icon for the city," said Jones, the museum's executive director.

"It is not just about an art museum. It's about civic pride."

That sentiment was shared by Mayor Heather Fargo, who calls the museum "a critical piece in our downtown revitalization."

The expansion allows the city's redevelopment engine to continue revving. "We've been really improving downtown Sacramento," Fargo said, "in making it a magnet for the people in the city and beyond."

Requests for bids for much of the construction work are to go out this week, and a groundbreaking ceremony is scheduled for July 26. The first phase involves shifting Second Street to accommodate the museum's expanded footprint.

The new wing would expand the Crocker to 170,000 square feet. The new museum would approach the size of San Francisco's Museum of Modern Art, which has 225,000 square feet for galleries, exhibits, cafes and shops. The Crocker will have the same amount of space for traveling exhibitions as the newly renovated de Young Museum in Golden Gate Park.

"For the first time, it will be a light, warm, inviting space," Jones said. "Museums are educational institutions. What we really want to do is engage visitors with works of art."

Foremost, the new wing will allow the museum to showcase a larger selection of its collection of 14,000 works of art, including its vast array of California art and ceramics -- and one of the country's most impressive collections of master drawings.

"Our collection is already world-class," said Jones. "What we don't have is the ability to show the works that give our museum its stature."

The museum's galleries have room for just 4 percent of the Crocker's collection, just a third of the industry standard.

While the expansion is expected to dramatically improve the art lover's experience -- with more to see, airier galleries, a roomier gift shop and a much- demanded cafe -- some of the most crucial improvements will be mostly out of view.

For the first time, the museum will be equipped with a freight elevator and a loading dock, standard amenities at major museums.

At times, oversized paintings have had to be removed from their frames, rolled up, then reframed for display. Some pieces have had to be slipped through windows -- because of narrow halls, low doorways and other architectural quirks that sometimes make maneuvering difficult at the museum.

Many of those quirks have been both blessing and curse. The old Victorians that originally comprised the museum lend a distinct sense of history and ornate color to the facility, but their halls have been constricting.

The Herold Wing, which features the architectural sensibilities of the 1960s, will be torn down.

The final edifice will be a marriage of the new and old. Much of the gleaming new facade will be stark white -- giving it a glow designed to harken that of the nearby Capitol -- but will be seamlessly anchored by the museum's existing Victorians, once the home and private art gallery of Judge Edwin B. Crocker, whose family was among California's "Big Four" railroad barons.

The museum's architects -- Gwathmey, Siegel & Associates -- designed the expansion of the Guggenheim in New York and the Henry Art Gallery in Seattle.

In the past 11 months, nearly 160,000 people visited the Crocker. The expansion is expected to help the museum draw as many as 300,000 visitors, perhaps more, annually once the new wing opens.

The museum also hopes to boost its membership from the current 9,400 to more than 12,500 by 2010.

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Old Posted Jun 4, 2007, 4:07 AM
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Hopefully there are more people out there willing to drop this much on civic institutes like this when the next big one rolls around. As I have said before, it really seems like philanthropy has really stepped up over the last few years.

Well said Sugit.

Hopefully the next big one" will be the Performing Arts Center.

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Old Posted Jun 4, 2007, 4:11 PM
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Sacramento has a historically bad record of philanthropy, because the folks who got rich here typically didn't stay. This was partially due to the weather, partially because San Francisco became the business center of California while Sacramento was busy becoming a production and government center. Folks like the Big Four (Stanford, Crocker, Huntington and Hopkins) moved to San Francisco to build their mansions, as did folks like Albert Gallatin, although they left their mansions behind. This was also true of many working class folks: they'd move here to work, and move on when the work went elsewhere. The folks who stayed in Sacramento were the middle managers and shopkeepers, and the middle class doesn't really have enough cash for heavy-duty philanthropy. Thus, art museums and educational institutions traditionally didn't do really well here. The Crocker is the perennial exception, primarily because E.B. died before he could move to San Francisco, and technically he was a particularly successful middle manager (he got the job because his brother built the railroad.)

So, thank the invention of air conditioning, because it seems like Sacramento is finally getting enough "old money" to whip up some philanthropy.
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A few skyscrapers with condos would make downtown more desireable. Is this the skyscraper forum????
Would you buy a condo for $600-800 per square foot in a city that was unsafe and dead after 6 pm? Would you lease class A office space for $3.75 per square foot in Roseville? Would you pay $200 a night to sleep in Rancho?

Sure it's fun to talk about really tall buildings, and they look real pretty from the freeway, but there's a whole lot details in between a surface parking lot and a 50 story tower. There's not much to say about a 600' skyscraper if it's all hypothetical.

You see the chicken and I see the egg, I guess.
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Bob Shallit: Target may hit the mark for design of new store
By Bob Shallit - Bee Columnist
Last Updated 7:30 am PDT Monday, June 4, 2007
Story appeared in BUSINESS section, Page D3

A Target store proposed at 65th Street near Highway 50 would feature a much sleeker urban design than a previous plan dismissed by neighbors and city officials as too suburban. Artist's rendition

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Target Corp. heard the howls two years ago when it proposed a standard, suburban-style store on 65th Street near Highway 50.

Now it has a new, higher density concept that could very well appease the neighbors, planners and city officials who objected to the original design.

Proposed is a two-story, glass structure, with parking on the first floor and a Target store on the second. Single-story shops, along with plazas, fountains and seating, would be positioned in front of two sides of the building to complement the nearby light-rail station and provide a "smaller, more pedestrian scale," says the company's senior development manager, John Dewes.



"We've come a long way on this," says Dewes, who acknowledges the company didn't anticipate the controversy it sparked when it acquired the former Golden 1 Credit Union administrative site two years ago and envisioned a standard Target there fronted by a sea of parking.

"We approached it with the idea that it was our more typical kind of suburban store, not a downtown type location " he says. But, Dewes says, company officials soon realized "that's not the way the community saw it."

As a result, Target staff "reassessed," he says, and came up with the new proposal, designed by Target's internal team and Nadel Retail Architects of Sacramento.

As part of its plan, Target is proposing to keep and remodel a two-story office building that sits on the east side of the 10-acre lot. A housing component was considered there, but Dewes says talks with community leaders convinced Target that office space is a bigger need.

City officials say they like the new design.

"Certainly the changes are positive," says Councilman Kevin McCarty, a critic of the original plan. He says the project now "more reflects the urban environment we're trying to create there."

McCarty expects environmental review of the proposal to take about a year. If that goes well, permitting would take another year, and construction one more, Dewes says.

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[QUOTE=TowerDistrict;2877000]Would you buy a condo for $600-800 per square foot in a city that was unsafe and dead after 6 pm? Would you lease class A office space for $3.75 per square foot in Roseville? Would you pay $200 a night to sleep in Rancho?

Maybe some high rise condos downtown would make downtown less dead after 6pm.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2007, 4:13 AM
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621 Capitol Mall



CalSTRS



500 Capitol Mall

I have posted more pics from all the above under Highrise Construction http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103
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Has anybody heard whats going on with Aura, I know there is an extention out, and they were tearing up the parking lot. And whats up with Capitol Grand I checked out the proposal page and nothing has been posted for quite a while.
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A whole lotta nothing is whats going on Jeff. Aura is still scuffling to find additional financing and is on its 4th or 5th extension (lost count a couple of extensions ago) for the city's gap loan. I wouldnt read too much into the parking lot tear up. Could be numerous reasons that don't include Aura being built as to the recent activity there. As for Capitol Grand, I don't think you have to say much more other than it is proposed by the infamously cheap slum lord Mo Mohanna. If a shovel of dirt ever gets moved for that project, it would be the biggest upset in the history of the universe.
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A couple weeks ago I posted that The Capitol Grand Towers EIR schedule was
put on hold. The developer is required to pay additional fees for the
environmental document preparation before the project can move forward.
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Thought you guys might be interested in this: final elevations for the Trammell Crow condo project on Alhambra and S.




The total number of condos is 275, about 40% of which are two-bedroom (the rest are single bedroom.) Parking is in a central structure with a capacity of about 400 spaces, one per bedroom. All of the units are supposed to have some sort of patio or porch, in addition there is a pool and several courtyard areas within the complex. Most of the complex is 4 stories tall, except for the building on the corner of S and Alhambra, which is 5 stories tall and will feature about 4000 feet of ground floor retail.

There will be a number of streetscape improvements, including acorn streetlights down both sides of S Street, bulb-outs to protect pedestrian crossing at Alhambra and 32nd Streets, and the center "suicide lane" will be eliminated, instead there will be bike lanes on either side of S Street. There will also be a pedestrian crossing at Alhambra and R to facilitate walking to the 29th Street light rail station.

Demolition of the existing "buzz-box" should start in August, and construction should start in early 2008. TCR expects to have the first units ready for sale in the summer of 2010.
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maybe the NAGs aren't happy with Trammell Crow's project, but I think it's damn fine looking project. There's just a ton of detail to it - each component looks from a different age but still cohesive enough to not be a brutal distraction.

anyway the neighborhood should be thrilled that they're getting streetscape improvements that usually take decades of campaigning and many thousands in tax dollars to create.... all for free.
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The project has improved visually in each iteration (it's a *lot* better than the first draft), but it wasn't the aesthetics that the neighborhood opposed.
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