CHICAGO | Boom rundown - everything over 12 floors. v5

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

I find this forum very confusing compared to SSC because there's no way (that I've found) to see all the Chicago topics together.

that's by design. this forum intentionally tries to keep things more mixed together and not as city-specific as SSC.

[Nowhereman1280]

Yes I agree Steely, just throwing some ideas out there. I don't think height alone is enough to justify most buildings. I think we should, as you agreed with, discuss either here or in a separate thread any buildings that we believe deserve their own thread. There aren't a whole lot of sub-700' buildings that I think deserve their own thread right now.

The thing I said about the more photographed buildings being more likely to get their own threads I think is legitimate. Obviously the most photographed buildings are the most interesting to forumers and are thus most likely to be of exceptional design or other wise.

Edit:
By the way, I think the idea of creating a seperate "Chicago: New Threads" thread is very important if we are going to allow more <700' buildings to have their own threads. I don't want to go to the boom rundown just to find a 20 post discussion on whether or not 600 Fairbanks deserves its own thread. I want to be able to go here for photos and updates and otherwise and then, if I am in the mood, go over to a different thread if someone has proposed a new thread and see what everyone has to say. I think it would help keep this on topic...

What do you think Steely?

[LoyolaBeachView]

Not sure if this is news....

Chicago, April 20, 2007 ­ Renowned for its architecture and location, the AAA Four-Diamond Swissôtel Chicago is proud to announce a $47 million meeting and conference expansion plan, which will further enhance its high-profile status in Chicago.

"This expansion will essentially change the entire dynamic of the hotel by doubling the amount of meeting space, allowing the property to compete for extensive meeting business," stated Thomas Klein, Swissôtel's vice president business development, The Americas.


http://www.hotelmotel.com/hotelmotel/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=421793

[trvlr70]

^^^^^^
The expansion is in Aqua.

[ardecila]

Are you sure? The LSE map shows the Swissotel addition as a gray parcel north of Aqua's access drive, indicating that it is not tied to Aqua. Of course, it might be part of the same complex, but it is not inside the Aqua building as we know it.

[BorisMolotov]

Maybe we should just have one person create new threads (or a small group of people), consulting a new Chicago New Thread Proposals thread. That way we don't just have any Joe Schmo come in and start a new Chicago thread.

[Steely Dan]

^ that's already a given. if someone thinks that a specific project is signifcant enough to warrant its own thread, then they'll have to nominate it in this thread, and then everyone will chime in with their thoughts, and then i'll consider the discussion and try to get a majority consensus on whether to go forward with it or not.

[Nowhereman1280]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ that's already a given. if someone thinks that a specific project is signifcant enough to warrant its own thread, then they'll have to nominate it in this thread, and then everyone will chime in with their thoughts, and then i'll consider the discussion and try to get a majority consensus on whether to go forward with it or not.

Well my concern is that this thread will become distracted if people start talking about which tower deserves a thread here. Personally I think the Boom should be restricted to news, photos, and the discussion of them.

I mean just looking at how off topic this discussion itself is makes me think that the Boom Rundown could become cluttered with this chatter any time someone decides to nominate a new Thread.

[Mojava]

trvlr70 is correct regarding the Swissotel expansion. It is going in Aqua, i believe in the concourse level. It should be interesting as both the Fairmont and Swissotel will have space in the same building.

[honte]

^ Agreed, Nowhereman. But I wonder how often it will really happen. Most of these are pretty cut-and-dry; Steely nips 'em in the bud with lightning speed.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Well my concern is that this thread will become distracted if people start talking about which tower deserves a thread here. Personally I think the Boom should be restricted to news, photos, and the discussion of them.

I mean just looking at how off topic this discussion itself is makes me think that the Boom Rundown could become cluttered with this chatter any time someone decides to nominate a new Thread.

i think that will be a small concern as i don't think there are really all that many buildings special enough to warrant much discussion about creating a seperate thread for them. if it does become a distracting problem, then we'll create a seperate thread for nominating and discusiing them.

[Nowhereman1280]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

i think that will be a small concern as i don't think there are really all that many buildings special enough to warrant much discussion about creating a seperate thread for them. if it does become a distracting problem, then we'll create a seperate thread for nominating and discusiing them.

Ok, that makes sense to me. Wait and see what happens!

[Alliance]

Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Edit:
By the way, I think the idea of creating a seperate "Chicago: New Threads" thread is very important if we are going to allow more <700' buildings to have their own threads. I don't want to go to the boom rundown just to find a 20 post discussion on whether or not 600 Fairbanks deserves its own thread. I want to be able to go here for photos and updates and otherwise and then, if I am in the mood, go over to a different thread if someone has proposed a new thread and see what everyone has to say. I think it would help keep this on topic...

I agree.

[HK Chicago]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

a chicago-centric sub-forum within the midwest forum that would be a place to discuss all things chicago... no duplication of threads would be allowed, meaning that if a given topic/project is being discussed at the global level, then it wouldn't be discussed in the chicago-centric sub-forum.

No. Sub-forums have no value and the SSC setup is the primary reason I don't visit.

If there is going to be some restructuring bring WTC2-4 topics over to the proposals forum... they're getting pretty stale in the WTC sub-forum.

[VivaLFuego]

Yeah, I honestly don't even go to SSC because it's too overwhelming....I exclusively use SSP because I just open each forum in a tab and click the threads near the top. There are a manageable number of Chicago threads at the moment. Please, no more additional threads, if anything, some of the individual project threads (MO, Museum Park, Elysian) should just be rolled back into the Boom Rundown.

[M II A II R II K]

Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Well my concern is that this thread will become distracted if people start talking about which tower deserves a thread here.

Yes you're right on that count. However this case is settled, there won't be any changes.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

Yes you're right on that count. However this case is settled, there won't be any changes.

Oh lord of the almighty Administrator...


King Solomon could not have adjudicated more wisely, Your Honor.

[M II A II R II K]

I think if one wants to post a thread about a Chicago project that is less than 700 feet but at the same time can justify why it is of enough interest to warrant it's own thread, they should do that in the first post.

Yea I would give permission for that. And it would be a convenient way of relaxing the 700 foot rule, assuming of course the project was worth it.

[BVictor1]

http://www.suntimes.com/business/roeder/356010,CST-FIN-roeder25.article

Some get ink, others get built
Plan Commission's sexy projects get attention, but they might be unattainable

April 25, 2007

DAVID ROEDER [email protected]

The Chicago Plan Commission held a four-hour hearing last week, with more than half the time devoted to discussions of the Chicago Spire and the renovation of the old Post Office. Both are projects that fire the imaginations of people concerned with the urban landscape.
And until they sign some actual occupants, they'll remain about as realistic as expectations of an independent City Council or a Cubs winning streak.

Then there were other projects the commission endorsed that got less attention but are more likely to be built. For my money (and believe me, I've got none of it in this game), the most significant of the overlooked bunch is a condominium high-rise planned for 6740 South Shore Drive, overlooking Jackson Park.

It's a $60 million deal by a partnership that includes JFJ Development Co. Few builders work the south lakefront. JFJ President Jon Zitzman said his building would be the South Shore's first high-rise in about 30 years.

Three two-story buildings on the property would be demolished. Zitzman plans 132 units, including four in town houses attached to the tower. He's got a price range of $250,000 to about $1 million.

Insiders said the project was sidetracked for a few months by aldermanic politics. But now Zitzman is free to market his condos and hopes to break ground next February.

[honte]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

Three two-story buildings on the property would be demolished. Zitzman plans 132 units, including four in town houses attached to the tower.

Ah ha, they are showing the corner of 68th and South Shore in the render. Which means they are taking down not one, but two incredible lakefront homes for this. I now officially despise this project. Two of the nicest houses on the far South Side.

The corner house at 68th street is really great - even better than the one Lee Bey was writing about on his web site.