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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 4:28 AM
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Prairie Wind (the poles) cost $350,000 plus the light features. I think they look good at night (with the purple lights on) but like empty flagpoles in the daytime. I would be shocked to find out that they actually move. I can't say I look closely, but they seem to move less than actual flagpoles.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 6:08 AM
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Prairie Wind (the poles) cost $350,000 plus the light features. I think they look good at night (with the purple lights on) but like empty flagpoles in the daytime. I would be shocked to find out that they actually move. I can't say I look closely, but they seem to move less than actual flagpoles.
Maybe they need to be painted yellow instead of stark white.
Maybe they need wheat heads on them instead of simply being poles.
Honestly if you hold a stalk of wheat up next to those poles, they don't look anything alike.
I suspect the "blowing in the wind effect" can't be effectively achieved without double the number of stalks.

Is it completed, or is there more work to do on it?
I guess if they're taking suggestions for improvements, maybe it's not done.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 6:11 AM
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I guess if they're taking suggestions for improvements, maybe it's not done.
One thought on an improvement - maybe the blowing movement could be simulated or exaggerated, so people could actually see them moving from the freeway bridge. Methinks that's an expensive addition though, and may not sound too charming close up (servos whining)

Are they expecting the wind to blow them around on its own?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 3:21 PM
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Unfortunatley, this project IS completed. I believe the radio show had their call in about "enhancements" because the project appears to be incomplete! They were just poking fun at it a bit.

Also, I also understand the the project was supposed to be engineered in such a way that the poles would sway up to a metre in the wind. However, I have observed this installation on many a very windy day and I could not detect any "swaying"...to bad, as the concept was good, but it just has failed to achieve its designed and desired results...
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 8:50 PM
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An arts scene
Explain. And some examples?

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, a nightlife
Yeah, you mean in the ghost town downtown?
Neither city in Saskatchewan has an active nightlife, so there really isn't much to compare about

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, restaurants other than those from a chain
Such as? You do realize restaurants like Moxie, Montana, etc are chain...

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, a significantly better downtown (unless, of coarse, you like empty office buildings over businesses, restaurants, theaters, and condominuims and the beautiful Bessborough).
Not a chance. Regina's downtown kills Saskatoon's downtown.

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We have a real arena
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Add on the four-time defending Canada West champion Saskatchewan Huskies football team, for good measure.
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...and we have the Riders, the only professional sports team in the province.

Meanwhile, Saskatoon is going after fringe leagues in fringe sports.

Your point?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 9:20 PM
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Ahh. The dust had settled!!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 10:13 PM
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...yeah, you're about a week late on that one.

Anyway, I heard the Rumely Building is for sale. Is that true? Anyone willing to speculate how long it will be on the market for, who will buy it, what will go in there? My hope: loft conversion
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 10:56 PM
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...yeah, you're about a week late on that one.

Anyway, I heard the Rumely Building is for sale. Is that true? Anyone willing to speculate how long it will be on the market for, who will buy it, what will go in there? My hope: loft conversion
Mr. Molasses was speculating about a rumored loft conversion there a while back... interesting. I was walking around that area today, it would be great to see all those warehouses turned into lofts. Perhaps when 25th street gets extended.
     
     
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^ Intense animosity over Regina and Saskatoon's individual identities have persisted for decades......strangely similar to the historic fight between Religion and Science, albeit with a lower loss of life and less disruption to humanity.

Who will prevail in the battle between good and evil?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 1:27 AM
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Im drawing a line... the Saskatoon vs. Regina 'discussion' ends here haha
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 3:36 AM
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For your enjoyment this evening I bring images of Saskatoon development, although don't get too excited especially with a borrowed Fujifilm A345 providing the image quality.

Foundation being prepared for North Ridge's Watersedge condo development


Watersedge


Watersedge


Once completed, Watersedge will rise just to the right of North Ridge's existing riverside condos The Landing Phase I and II.


Rawlco HQ on the left with some senior-oriented condo building on the right


This next shot really lacks the quality I was hoping for, but I'll post it regardless.


And the aftermath of Midtown Village's demolition


     
     
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 2:28 PM
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Keeping with my cut and paste tradition...an SP Editorial which may initiate some discussion:

Published: Thursday, April 26, 2007
Following is the viewpoint of the writer, a resident of Saskatoon.

Fate works in mysterious ways, so I'm wondering if now is the time to elaborate on an idea I and others proposed to council three years ago. We've had some serious setbacks lately but there might still be a way to make River Landing and Saskatoon the world-class destination centre it could be and should be.

So I suggest, again, to coin a phrase and a new name, that "The Saskatoon Mendel Public Gallery of Prairie and World Art" still could be and should be the missing piece of the puzzle we've been searching for.

As background, here's the most recent bad news. (Or could it be good news?)

First, River Landing now has no major attraction; Ellen Remai has decided not to build a mineral-spa hotel there.

Second, the city-owned Mendel continues to ask taxpayers for a great deal of money to expand its present site; even if we agree to pay another $4.5 million or so, it'll still be a minor gallery and one that has to charge admission fees to survive.

Third, Broadway, right across the bridges from River Landing, has just lost a major and top-quality Ken Achs/Karl Miller condominium.

Fourth, Cameco is apparently looking for new offices but council doesn't seem to want an office building as part of River Landing.

These things don't seem to be related but I think there's a window of renewed opportunity here. Often, in life, you have to go backward a few steps in order to go forward. So, to summarize, this is what I'd like to see council do.

Talk to Cameco to see if it might build or expand on the current Mendel site.

Talk, again, to the Mendel board and Mitchell family to try to persuade them to move the gallery's permanent collection of 5,000 paintings to River Landing as its much-needed "crown jewel," with the promise of greatly increased funding and a much larger and far superior gallery.

To access that funding and major-construction expertise, bring together a public-private partnership of city, provincial and federal governments -- and Saskatoon people such as Johanna Mendel-Mitchell, Ellen Remai, Ken Achs and Karl Miller, along with architects such as Mel Malkin, Phil Scott and Dave Edwards.

Design and build an architecturally aesthetic and unique highrise complex on the former Remai site, probably even larger than the proposed spa-hotel and possibly overlapping onto the "destination complex" site.

Make this complex a mix of hotel rooms, condominiums, retail spaces, lounges, restaurants, sidewalk cafes and so on. I think that the possible attractions in such a "people place" are almost limitless.

However, and most importantly, ensure that this complex is designed around and fully focused on a truly world-class gallery that the Mendel, without question, has the potential to be.

The gallery area, for example, should be spacious and have enough separate "rooms" so that the entire permanent collection is on display at all times -- and open without charge to the public for many hours each day.

In this regard, I don't think Saskatoon fully realizes what might constitute our greatest treasure. The fact is, we have more great artists and painters per capita than any other city in the world!

What other city has the streets of an entire suburb, in this case Erindale, named after them? Mulcaster, Bonli, Perehudoff, Cowley, Hurley, Bornstein, Lindner, Kenderdine, to name but a few.

So to appreciate the magnitude of our own city's and our own province's artistic accomplishments, I think we should keep in mind that the Mendel has a collection of about 3,000 of these great Saskatchewan paintings (along with 2,000 more, including some from the world-renowned Group of Seven).

But I think we should keep in mind, also, that the "Group of Saskatoon," to coin another phrase, one day will at least rival all these other acclaimed works of art.

As a postscript, however, there's a simpler solution -- simpler, but not quite as good. But if council remains convinced that a hotel is what River Landing really needs, then why not seek EOIs from companies that want to build an "art gallery hotel" instead of a "mineral spa" hotel?

Discuss this concept first with Ellen Remai and perhaps form a limited and therefore workable partnership. Remai doesn't have to spend an extra $15 million to access mineral springs which may or may not be workable. Saskatoon would use the money from the sale of the old Mendel site to fund the new gallery within the hotel complex -- we'd save $4.5 million there. Also, not having to pay for expansion on the old site, we'd continue to own and operate the new gallery within the hotel.

Finally, I think that "The Saskatoon Mendel Public Gallery of Prairie and World Art" can and will become known as one of the world's great galleries. That's precisely what we need to make River Landing and Saskatoon -- the kind of culturally and esthetically attractive destination centre that we want it to be and which it deserves to be.

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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 4:59 PM
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I also read this article in today's Star Phoenix. I think the writer offers some good rationale for a gallery destination complex. Just a few minor hurdles that would have to be addressed:

- it is my understanding that the Mendel absolutely does not want to move from their current location. I find this a bit frustrating, as I believe if they were part of a RiverLanding destination, their exposure to the public (and tourists) would be greatly increased and enhanced. They currently have a beautiful location, but it is a bit removed from 'the action' of our tourist area.

- I do not believe the current Mendel site would be large enough to accomodate a Cameco head office. Plus, I believe it would be Cameco's intention to be located more centrally downtown or part of RiverLanding (again, for that all important community profile)

I completely support the concept of a mixed use development and believe a showcase gallery would be a wonderful addition to the Persephone Theatre. We might actually be able to establish a cultural destination!

I know that the proposed combination Persephone/Mendel building was just too small to accomodate the Mendel. But perhaps with a new dedicated building, the decision makers at the Mendel will at least take time to re-consider the opportunity.

I still think Cameco should build just south(?)/behind the Galaxy Cinema or on another parcel of land downtown versus as part of RiverLanding.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 5:19 PM
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I agree with your frustration re: the Mendel. They would be a great fit for the site, though I'm not sure their collection places them among the "world's great galleries", as the author suggested.

I think the city should at least listen to what Cameco has to offer. If it doesn't fit in with the grand vision then so be it, but to shut out a deep pocketed, eager potential contributor because their plan would exceed the mandated 50,000 sq ft of office space seems a bit foolhardy.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 5:47 PM
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Circle makes a very good point. The city needs to listen to what Cameco has to say before making a decision. If we want our downtown to grow and attract development, we "NEED" a company like Cameco to invest in it. I think it would be very closed minded to just brush a company like Cameco aside. When was the last time a real office tower went up in our city? Do we even have a real nice office tower? I want a nice new glass office tower damit!!




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I agree with your frustration re: the Mendel. They would be a great fit for the site, though I'm not sure their collection places them among the "world's great galleries", as the author suggested.

I think the city should at least listen to what Cameco has to offer. If it doesn't fit in with the grand vision then so be it, but to shut out a deep pocketed, eager potential contributor because their plan would exceed the mandated 50,000 sq ft of office space seems a bit foolhardy.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2007, 10:56 PM
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We all know that City council and the mayor are deaf when it comes to south downtown. Maybe Cameco should build a hotel and then move in? LOL

As for the Mendel, that sight should stay as it is. That would not fit for any offices, way to isolated. If the Art Gallery wants to move to south downtown give the old gallery to Shakespeare on the Saskatchewan. It would make a beautiful theatre facility.
     
     
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I think if the Mendel got an awesome face-lift that included a better view of the river, that'd be cool (like say, big glass windows facing the river, like our airport has facing the landing strips). Then again, I haven't been in there for years so I forget what it's like.

And even though the suitors for River Landing don't need to have a hotel in their plans, you can bet that the Mayor and City council will be in favour of any plans that do.

While, personally? I think that we should take advantage of our river. Perhaps build something unique for western Canada that tourists have to come to Saskatoon for... I've always thought an aquarium would be good, but those cost a lot and you can bet that there would be little support for that. But there's tons of other unique things we could try and build that will bring tourists to this lovely city.

And besides, Moose Jaw has a spa/hotel already. We should come up with something more original that someplace in our province doesn't already have.
     
     
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I think if the Mendel got an awesome face-lift that included a better view of the river, that'd be cool (like say, big glass windows facing the river, like our airport has facing the landing strips). Then again, I haven't been in there for years so I forget what it's like.

And even though the suitors for River Landing don't need to have a hotel in their plans, you can bet that the Mayor and City council will be in favour of any plans that do.

While, personally? I think that we should take advantage of our river. Perhaps build something unique for western Canada that tourists have to come to Saskatoon for... I've always thought an aquarium would be good, but those cost a lot and you can bet that there would be little support for that. But there's tons of other unique things we could try and build that will bring tourists to this lovely city.

And besides, Moose Jaw has a spa/hotel already. We should come up with something more original that someplace in our province doesn't already have.
There's also Manitou...but MJ is a bit of a jaunt from Saskatoon!
     
     
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This is how the River Front should look like, with a few extra floors.

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2037425300098557745NgEkzk
     
     
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Thank you Irving Josephson for stating what a lot of people think. I hope council reconsiders the requirements for River Landing, would a majority of the public really be up in arms if Cameco wanted to build a nice shiny office tower with an attached cultural destination/art gallery, or would just certain segments of the population be against it? My vote goes to the latter.

Anyways now that the weather is nice, more pictures of development(3 sites to be exact), but lots of different angles and such for each one

Adding a third eastbound lane to the Circle Drive Bridge


The bike/pedestrian walkway had to move beneath the traffic lanes(most cost effective option) to construct the additional westbound/eastbound lanes.


Construction of walkway


121 Research drive to the distant left (Not sure of the official name yet) as well as the Canadian Light Source to the distant right


Canadian Light Source - Very Unassuming


Canadian Light Source - Additional beamlines being constructed


And more of 121 Research Drive - Another iconic addition to the Innovation Place Research Park


121 Research Drive


121 Research Drive


121 Research Drive


121 Research Drive

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