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Old Posted Apr 10, 2007, 5:05 AM
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I find this sad. This is a fairly new building, there is structually nothing wrong with it. I'm sure something could of been done with it. Perhaps a retailer like Winner or Dollarama could of made good use of this space. It could of even been turned into a night club. This is really a shame.
It is too bad to see, and I've always liked that building, but it is very hard to remodel a movie theatre into anything else. Not a lot of applications besides 'theatre' for big open rooms with sloping floors.
Now what would really be a shame is if it is torn down and it's either a parking lot or another nondescript 2 story building in a year.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Cinema site to be hotel


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Good Ol' Rick John .

So the question now is what kind of design are we to expect?
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Well, 140 rooms and some above ground parking on that piece of land imo will need at least 10 - 14 floors. Great news for me, not so much for Saskatoon's Hoteliers.

As far as design, I think something that looks like a giant brown brick box will fit in nicely..
     
     
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As far as design, I think something that looks like a giant brown brick box will fit in nicely..
Amen

But I am still puzzled by Remai's arguement for not building the River Landing hotel, albeit the standards are probably much lower for this particular downtown hotel development compared to a signature hotel/spa downtown development which was expected by the city/public. If hotel is a no go, bring on the hi-rise residential, and hopefully something attractive(crosses fingers).

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Old Posted Apr 10, 2007, 5:40 PM
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Pacific Cinemas

Holy crap, was that ever fast, relatively speaking. That's a shame, because I always liked the look of the building. But, I'm sure it's hard to adapt cinemas to another use because of the sloping floors. Let's hope that this new hotel is a worthy successor - no more brown brick and pink stucco!

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^I stand corrected, the destruction has already begun on the North side of the building.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2007, 6:17 PM
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Amen

But I am still puzzled by Remai's arguement for not building the River Landing hotel, albeit the standards are probably much lower for this particular downtown hotel development compared to a signature hotel/spa downtown development which was expected by the city/public. If hotel is a no go, bring on the hi-rise residential, and hopefully something attractive(crosses fingers).
I think Remai is doing something big on the Legion site. They own the land out-right and there are no restrictions on construction as it is not part of the River Landing site. I believe the Legion is zoned for dense commercial or residential. I am confident that we will soon find out what their plans are for that parcel. The claim of increased construction costs isn't quite a good enough reason to kill a project like the spa/hotel, but if they were planning on two major projects, it would make a big difference in Remai's bottom line.
     
     
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I am new to this forum, but have been popping in now and then just to catch up on what is happening in Saskatoon. I am unfortunately, almost completely without good real estate connections, but do have a few friends in the business, so hopefully will be able to contribute every now and then.

Just an observation on the current market...my brother in law was just visiting from Calgary and indicated if the opportunity presented itself, he would not hesitate to drop up to $500,000 on prime riverfront condo's as an investment. As I am sure you are all aware, the problem being, there currently is NO condo's like this available. Likewise, I am tempted to invest (before it's too late???), but want riverfront condo. There just does not appear to be anything like this on the market. As beautiful as the Saskatoon river valley is, it sure is lacking upscale condo real estate.

Does anyone have any information on the Riverfront(??) condo's next to the Ukrainian Museum. I would love an email address to do some more research on these.
     
     
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^This info might interest you then, although not downtown condos.

I noticed some activity near "The Landing On Saskatchewan Crescent" http://thelandingonsask.com/. After exploring the North Ridge website, I am under the impression the new development is "Water's Edge" http://www.watersedgeonsask.ca/ . It looked to be at full depth for underground parking. I would have taken some pics, but no camera at the time. The marketing seems to suggest these suites are for senior retired couples

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Old Posted Apr 11, 2007, 3:54 AM
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Welcome prairieguy.

Although I too like the Pacific Cinemas building i'm happy to hear that a highrise hotel will take its place and not a parking lot that would further gut that area. Lets all hope that the design of the building is decent but a "Holiday Inn" does not evoke images of a sleek modern high-rise. I would like to see some retail space on the ground floor of the hotel but the SP article made no mention of that except for a restuarant. Some stores and maybe a coffee shop would help extend that "downtown" feel down the block more.

At least this hotel should stomp out Atch's desperate dream of a hotel/spa at river landing. Now I hope the attention will turn to some more appropriate ideas... condos, condos, condos?? That would deal with what prairieguy has pointed out... our riverfront is certainly lacking in upscale condos. And if indeed the "riverfront" condo is senior oriented.. well that makes me angry.

I can envision years down the road seeing mid to high rise condos being built along victoria park in riversdale as its revitalization is along. that area has a lot of potential. But really, where else are there appropriate spots for riverfront condos? the "mansions" on sask crescent wont be going anywhere.. not likely on spadina in city park either. I wish they'd knock down the medical arts building on downtown on spadina... what a god awful pile of bricks!

any word on this project at 24th and spadina.. or was someone just thinking of the riverfront that is already built ??
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And if indeed the "riverfront" condo is senior oriented.. well that makes me angry.
I don't think the "Riverfront"(or whatever its called) on Spadina is senior oriented, but those Northridge condos near the Rawlco building on Sask cres. seem very senior oriented.

Senior oriented or not, Saskatoon has a shortage of condo units, and downtown units seem like they rarely change hands. I'm impatient, how about the City renew the tax exemption program for downtown residential construction?

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Old Posted Apr 11, 2007, 2:39 PM
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At least this hotel should stomp out Atch's desperate dream of a hotel/spa at river landing.
one would have thought so, yet...

Mayor won't give up on hotel
South downtowndevelopment will proceed as planned, Atchison says
Lana Haight, The StarPhoenix
Published: Wednesday, April 11, 2007

"It might be a boutique hotel. It could be a lot of different things. It may not be a traditional hotel," Mayor Don Atchison said at a news conference Tuesday morning after The StarPhoenix reported construction on a new full-service hotel will begin within a year, kitty-corner from TCU Place.

A numbered company controlled by Lawrence and Patricia Rychjohn has purchased the franchise to build a Holiday Inn Hotel and Suites on the Pacific Cinemas site. It will have a minimum of 140 rooms, a restaurant, banquet and meeting space, and above and below-ground parking. Demolition of the movie theatre could be complete as early as this weekend.

The Saskatoon couple was not asked to consider building the Holiday Inn Hotel and Suites in the south downtown River Landing development, says Atchison. Last month, Remai Ventures Inc. backed out of building a $40-million hotel and spa complex at River Landing. The company cited rising construction costs and a shortage of skilled labour for not developing the complex, which was considered the crown jewel in the city's River Landing project.

The development of the south downtown will proceed apart from the new hotel near TCU Place, says Atchison. He and city administrators have received inquiries from at least 16 people from all over Canada and as far away as Asia.

"If you went out and said we'd like to have it all as condominiums, it could be all condominiums tomorrow. It could be all office space tomorrow. It could be a lot of things tomorrow," he said.

Atchison's vision for River Landing includes restaurants, retail outlets, condominiums and hotel rooms.

He doesn't buy the argument that the Saskatoon market for hotel rooms is saturated. With the expansions at TCU Place and Prairieland Park, Saskatoon has the facilities to host up to 98 per cent of all conventions in Canada, says Atchison.

"It seems like every group that comes through says there aren't enough downtown hotel rooms for them."

Gary Hamilton, executive director of the Western Retail Lumber Assn. Ltd., would like to see more downtown hotel rooms. His organization has held its annual convention in Saskatoon for the past 12 years and has had blocks of rooms set aside in 14 hotels throughout the city.

"It does get a little tight, because we like to use the main (downtown) hotels. Those fill up a lot faster than the rest so people then have to go to the more remote hotels," Hamilton said from his Winnepeg office.

During the Juno celebration last month, the local host committee kept an updated inventory of available hotel rooms, says Todd Brandt, co-chair of the committee.

"We were close to sold out, but there was some available in all tiers of hotels for that weekend," he said.

On Monday at its regular meeting, city council will receive a report from its administration recommending ways to proceed with the development of the River Landing property designated for a hotel. Atchison hopes council calls for expressions of interest from potential investors who are ready to develop the land.

"I don't think council is prepared to put any money into it," said Atchison.

Remai Investments had secured from city council $3.1 million in tax abatements during construction and for the hotel and spa's first four years of operation.

"The tax incentive was for drilling down for a geothermal spa. It was not for the hotel portion, because the spa was supposed to be a fully public-access venue," said Atchison.

The only tax incentives he sees being available are if condominiums are part of the River Landing development. The city has a policy for waiving property taxes for five years on condominiums built in downtown.

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Old Posted Apr 11, 2007, 3:39 PM
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Hey thanks for the welcome!

A few rambling thoughts. First, when will the Mayor give up on HIS dream of a hotel/spa for river landing??? As has been discussed on this forum already, there are many other creative (and more appropriate) ideas for a people gathering place. And now with a new downtown hotel confirmed, I do not believe there is any way Saskatoon is ready to sustain an additional hotel at River Landing. This just continues to be the most mismanaged and marketed parcel of land ever!

On a completely unrelated topic, has anyone heard anything more about the Opus Commercial Condiminium project on 21st Street (across from John's). The billboard promoting the development has been up for quite some time and the building design actually looks pretty impressive, but there are certainly no signs of action here.

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^ That sign used to say "Posession in 2007"; now it says "Build To Suit". Judging by that I would think that the project is dead.
     
     
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I heard an interesting remark on the 6 oclock news from CTV's Kevin Waugh regarding the Northern Leauge's interest for a Saskatoon team. Waugh commented on how the success of such a pursuit would depend largely on renovating or replacing the current venue for a more inviting experience for spectators. He then spoke of the success of Winnipeg's Goldeyes at their downtown venue, and commented on how family oriented the experience was(he had watched a few games last summer). He went on to say the Mayor suggested the 25th street city yards would be opening up soon, and might make an ideal location. What a tease

Would a new location and new venue have an impact on the overall success of a Northern League pro-baseball team in Saskatoon? The optimist in me says yes, obviously it would. But does a new venue increase and sustain enough support to justify the cost and energy required for such an idea? Maybe. I'm not normally into baseball, but if they built something downtown which could be utilized during the summer months I'd catch a game or two just for the fact its in close proximity to shops/lounges/restaurants. I could easily make an enjoyable evening out of it, you know, convince myself I live in a big city Watch the provincial government get behind this one for sure

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It would be so awsome if we could get a 5000 seat ball park in the downtown area. I know I would go every chance I had.

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I heard an interesting remark on the 6 oclock news from CTV's Kevin Waugh regarding the Northern Leauge's interest for a Saskatoon team. Waugh commented on how the success of such a pursuit would depend largely on renovating or replacing the current venue for a more inviting experience for spectators. He then spoke of the success of Winnipeg's Goldeyes at their downtown venue, and commented on how family oriented the experience was(he had watched a few games last summer). He went on to say the Mayor suggested the 25th street city yards would be opening up soon, and might make an ideal location. What a tease
     
     
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Cairns Field is a dump, anyways. Any self respecting pro league would never place a team in Saskatoon as long as Cairns field is the only suitable place to place.

Something has to be built. I agree, I'd go to a lot of games with the girlfriend/friends if we had a team. It'd really make an enjoyable night, bring a summer sport to Saskatoon that we can call our own.. and if put in the right location, could really initiate positive growth downtown. Going to a ball game on a warm summer evening then ending up within walking distance of bars, lounges and restaurants?

Build a facility, market it properly and professional baseball in this city will flourish. Saskatoon could, for once, have a professional organization to call our own.
     
     
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I hate having to drive over to Cairns Field or whatever the hell it is called. It is in a bad part of town, along with Gordie Howe Bowl. It is just not an enjoyable experience.

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Cairns Field is a dump, anyways. Any self respecting pro league would never place a team in Saskatoon as long as Cairns field is the only suitable place to place.

Something has to be built. I agree, I'd go to a lot of games with the girlfriend/friends if we had a team. It'd really make an enjoyable night, bring a summer sport to Saskatoon that we can call our own.. and if put in the right location, could really initiate positive growth downtown. Going to a ball game on a warm summer evening then ending up within walking distance of bars, lounges and restaurants?

Build a facility, market it properly and professional baseball in this city will flourish. Saskatoon could, for once, have a professional organization to call our own.
     
     
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There was an article in the sports page beside the ever-so-pleasing report of the Flames getting pasted by the Wings that said that "If you put 2,500-3000 people in the seats at cairns field, you'll make money."

I don't think 2,500 or 3,000 people who would go to the games would drive over to that side of town, leave their car in the parking lot at night, and watch a baseball game.

It'd be easier to build a temporary field somewhere else (say around the university or something) using temporary metal bleachers, ala the Houston Colt .45s, until they actually built something decent.

Cairns field just isn't a top notch facility. At all.
     
     
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I agree that a stadium downtown in the city yards site would be nice, but disagree that the Cairns Field neighbourhood is that bad. Sure, you pass through some questionable areas but look around ... Cameco, Holiday Park Golf Course, Gordie Howe Bowl ... I feel quite safe parking my car there esp. with the Hell's Angels next door. No crime (except their own) would be going on around there!

The City Yards area would be quite nice. I hear that the Gabriel Dumont Institute is looking at setting up shop near SIAST.
     
     
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