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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 5:29 AM
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my rendering of what i think it should look like. (rough sketch)

Me likes!
BTW, I like the design of the new towers a lot better than the old ones.
     
     
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Ummm, you know like uhh............, Not trying to sound nasty or anything, but in what lifetime are you hoping to see this happen, this one or the next?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 11:35 AM
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These new designs look ok, but just don't come across as a sign of financial power to me at all, like WTC did.
Ridiculous. These will be some of the largest, most massive towers in the city. The Twin Towers weren't so much of a financial symbol as they were large skyscrapers. They didn't have the massive trading floors these towers will have. In reality, this new WTC will appear far more larger than the original.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 11:47 AM
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I haven't visited this thread in a while, and I was wondering if the (crappy) crown of the Freedom Tower had been redesigned. If I remember correctly, the first version was a draft and it was supposed to be worked on.

Any news on that ?
     
     
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Ridiculous. These will be some of the largest, most massive towers in the city. The Twin Towers weren't so much of a financial symbol as they were large skyscrapers. They didn't have the massive trading floors these towers will have. In reality, this new WTC will appear far more larger than the original.


Right!

But they don't want this design. They'd rather have the Twins back, and to them, nothing will ever replace what was there before.

In their eyes, the NWTC will NEVER have the same symbolism, looks, dignity and respect as the Twins did.

Please, they need to just grow up and face reality and the fact that we'll have a much better complex than before.

They just keep on ojecting to this rather stylish design that is just as tall in structural height as the old Twins, yet they still insist on worshipping two mediocre slabs from the early '70s!! I just don't get it.

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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 5:48 PM
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But they don't want this design. They'd rather have the Twins back, and to them, nothing will ever replace what was there before.

In their eyes, the NWTC will NEVER have the same symbolism, looks, dignity and respect as the Twins did.

Please, they need to just grow up and face reality and the fact that we'll have a much better complex than before.

They just keep on ojecting to this rather stylish design that is just as tall in structural height as the old Twins, yet they still insist on worshipping two mediocre slabs from the early '70s!! I just don't get it.
i don't expect anything to happen at any point. in MY opinion, it wasn't the height of the trade centers that was so intriguing. it was the fact that there were two side by side. i like minimal designs and a lot of the buildings these days look like they've been modeled with a piece of ice. it's just not what i consider impressive. but that's just my opinion anyways and i'm not donating a dollar to the project so they can do whatever they want with it.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 5:51 PM
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my rendering of what i think it should look like. (rough sketch)

I think the closest to that we'll see is in Adam Sandler's movie "Click"
     
     
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I know people get frustrated on this forum when others talk about the old twin towers and how they want something similar built. I think it's ok for people to hold a sentament about the old towers - People will grow acustomed to the new towers once they are built and there for a while. Whether you think architecturally they are mediocre or not, they were a symbol for New York. It would take quite a while for people in St. Louis for example to get over the loss of the gateway arch. It would take a long time for some people to get over the loss of the John Hancock building and/or the Sears tower. Just think of San Francisco without the Golden Gate bridge. Structures would be built in their place, but it would never be the same...just different. It just takes people a long time to get aclimated to change - I think it's normal. That said, I think the new towers will look stunning in the new skyline. They will start to define a new New York....anyway those are my ramblings
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I agree. I think it's ok to people tell their opinions here, that's the basics of democracy. And it's also ok if for example Daquan don't like those opinions. Myself, at first I really hated the desing, but it grows on people and it did (and does) with me. Last half year or so I've followed this project - and now I want to see some updates! There is construction going on, so there must be something happening!
     
     
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I think the closest to that we'll see is in Adam Sandler's movie "Click"
haha, i know
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I'd be a lot happier to see that vision also. Singularly and alone it lacks symbolism and doesn't respect the past.
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my rendering of what i think it should look like. (rough sketch)

Wow i really like it, that is what i also hoped they would do.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 3:37 AM
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I agree. I think it's ok to people tell their opinions here, that's the basics of democracy. And it's also ok if for example Daquan don't like those opinions. Myself, at first I really hated the desing, but it grows on people and it did (and does) with me. Last half year or so I've followed this project - and now I want to see some updates! There is construction going on, so there must be something happening!


Ghost, everyone IS entitled to their own opinion. I'm not knocking that.

But what really makes me sick to my stomach is the fact that some don't seem to know what's up with Ground Zero, which is why there is constant blatent pics of twinned Freedom Towers here to evoke the missing Twins when we all know that they are only going to build one.

This has really gotten old. The poking, the complaints, the pics, the quests for what we all know won't happen.

Each of the towers will be fashionably styled, will be magnificent and will soar to unpresedented heights in the sky. Times have changed. And so as not to dwell back on what was there before, we all have to move on. I mean, it's nice to think about the Twins and remember how great they were, but all the ranting, raving and complaining in the world will not bring anything close to them back for Ground Zero.

You guys have to realise that and put away your toys because the present plan is here to stay.

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Daquan13, seriously, I'm susually on your side. But you started this fight, you always do. When someone says something related the Twin Towers or two Freedom Towers, you usually start a fight.

So Daquan 13, if someone mentions Two Freedom Towers or Twin Towers, ignore it or shut up, unless you have something positive to say.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 6:47 AM
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Daquan13, seriously, I'm susually on your side. But you started this fight, you always do. When someone says something related the Twin Towers or two Freedom Towers, you usually start a fight.

So Daquan 13, if someone mentions Two Freedom Towers or Twin Towers, ignore it or shut up, unless you have something positive to say.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 11:52 AM
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I'd be a lot happier to see that vision also. Singularly and alone it lacks symbolism and doesn't respect the past.
Really? I think it's more respectful by not trying to replicate what was lost. Those buildings are gone, destroyed in a terrorist attack. Simply building duplicates, or "clones" of the originals won't change that.

But beyond that, this isn't the 1960's anymore. Given the same architect, you wouldn't get that same design today.

In short, get used to the Twin Towers being gone already. It's going on six years now. Most people in New York have moved on.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 12:50 PM
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Daquan13, seriously, I'm susually on your side. But you started this fight, you always do. When someone says something related the Twin Towers or two Freedom Towers, you usually start a fight.

So Daquan 13, if someone mentions Two Freedom Towers or Twin Towers, ignore it or shut up, unless you have something positive to say.


You guys can rant, rave and scream all you want to, But it's the officials who will have the last laugh.

Just admit it Patrick, it's YOU that are LOOKING for an excuse to fight. You always did from Day One. I'm voicing my opinion just like you just did, but I'm telling you the TRUTH about Ground Zero. I shouldn't have to, BECAUSE ALL OF US KNOWTHE TRUTH.

I got nothing against anyone REFLECTING BACK on the Twins. It's that old tired wasted distasteful same old record that just keeps on being played; "I want the Twins back!" "Why can't they just rebuild the Twins and get it over with?" Or; "I'm filing a partition to have the Twins rebuilt!" Now the same old tired song is being played with the Freedom Tower. "Oh, why can't they just build TWO Freedom Towers to at least evoke the missing Twins?" Honestly, when will this lost cause give up? Haha!!

Patrick, I DID have something possitive to say, and I just said it. Duh!!! The sooner that all of you just get off that high horse of yours and come back down to earth, realise what today's new look for Ground Zero will be like, I think it's YOU guys who need to shut up.

Also, I think some of you are getting a ridiculously huge bonified boner for the Twins or 2 Freedom Towers, when some of you know perfectly well that you ddn't like the tower in the first place from Day One, and probably STILL don't like it but you'd rapidly settle for a pair of FT's to satisfy your ridiculous lust for the Twins and make you at least FEEL like they were rebuilt. Sound familiar? Haha!!

All of this bullcrap spewing coming from you guys is just wasted breath. You know that I'm right in saying that it is what it is for Ground Zero, but you don't want to hear it, so please stop trolling this thread with your ridiculous wants for the Twins or Twin Towers' substitutes. Haha!!

And BTW, I thought no wanting the Twins back or anything related to wanting them back was allowed here.So seriously, you guys already spammed this thread with your wants and needs for the Twins, knowing full well that it won't happen. Get over it. I did. Haha!!

And you're so right NYguy!!! This sad song about wanting the Twins back needs to be buried and forgotten.

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This is my first post but I've been watching this thread for a long time now. I'm not usually the one to speak out but Duquan, you are annoying. You're just as annoying as a 7 yr old kid wanting a new toy every time their parents take them to wal-mart. There is nothing wrong with wanting the twins back. We all know it aint gonna happen but there is nothing wrong with wanting them. First amendment says we got the freedom of speech. Hey they're just saying what they feel, quit bitching about it. If you wanna complain, take it somewhere else where someone else might, just might care. We heard ya the first time, once is enough.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 1:56 PM
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Daquan has also posted here 7,764 times in a little under 4 years, good for an average of 5.4 posts per day counting weekends. Let's face it, besides this forum, the dude has no life.
     
     
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