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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 9:41 AM
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From the article:
Carley, chief executive of Fordham Co., agreed in January to pay $60 million to HBE Corp. of St. Louis for an approximately two-acre parcel at Illinois Street and Columbus Drive. He plans to close on the property, now being used for surface parking, in June.

What I find interesting is that this is almost the same size plot of land that the spire will sit on, and this is about the same price that he couldn't come up with before.... How's he going to possibly pull this off? Do you think his partner has enough clout to get this deal done?

Interesting to say the least.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 5:34 PM
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As for the 2nd, I think Fioretti is sitting pretty to be the next alderman. With the incumbent only managing to get 20%, I can't see her even making the run-off much of a race...I think Fioretti will also end up being at the very least not hostile toward high-rise development - heck, at the very least he's open to meeting with the skyscraper, architecture and planning crowd. Now we just need him to get behind a certain very important project in the 800 block of S Michigan...
Don't assume that all of the votes cast against Haithcock will go to Fioretti.

This is going to be a tough, dirty, next six weeks in the 2nd Ward, with much at stake for our issues.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 6:01 PM
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So lets get to work to get this guy elected. Walk a precint do something to get this guy elected. This is our shot to get our do-for-nothing hack alderman out of office.

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Now that Natarus is done. . . I'm afraid the NIMBY's have won this round. . . you can certainly expect this guy to take EVERY new high-rise proposal and let the community decide whether or not it will get built. . . thankfully I live in the 42nd ward. . . I'll have to do my best to shout down the morons in the neighborhood that want to downsize everything. . .
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Don't assume that all of the votes cast against Haithcock will go to Fioretti.

This is going to be a tough, dirty, next six weeks in the 2nd Ward, with much at stake for our issues.
My prediction is that the run-off won't be close...Fioretti received about 40% more votes than Haithcock did (28% to 20%), and I'm sure that a large percentage, if not the majority of votes that went to Askew, Johnson, Doody, or Davis, went that way because the voter was completely dissatisfied with Haithcock. Almost all of these anti-Haithcock votes are going to go to Fioretti in the run-off.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 9:58 PM
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My prediction is that the run-off won't be close...Fioretti received about 40% more votes than Haithcock did (28% to 20%), and I'm sure that a large percentage, if not the majority of votes that went to Askew, Johnson, Doody, or Davis, went that way because the voter was completely dissatisfied with Haithcock. Almost all of these anti-Haithcock votes are going to go to Fioretti in the run-off.
Let's take this over to SSC where we have a dedicated 2nd Ward thread.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 10:13 PM
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POTENTIALLY HUGE EVANSTON NEWS!

evanstonnow.com is reporting that focus development is now trying to procure the land that roszak development unseuccessfully tried to aquire for their 38 story fountain square proposal. that project now appears to be dead, but the new word on the street is that focus development's plan for the site includes a tower that might stand as much as 50 stories tall! that would be an unbelievable height for a new signature tower in downtown evanston. the downside is that focus development's two previous evanston highrises, church street station & sherman plaza, are both quite regrettably bland.

read the whole article here: http://www.evanstonnow.com/node/2028
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Now that Natarus is done. . . I'm afraid the NIMBY's have won this round. . . you can certainly expect this guy to take EVERY new high-rise proposal and let the community decide whether or not it will get built. . . thankfully I live in the 42nd ward. . . I'll have to do my best to shout down the morons in the neighborhood that want to downsize everything. . .
That's the scary part, and he was also endorsed by Unite 1. So either he too will become a friend of developers or a friend of small neighborhood associations.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2007, 11:04 PM
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focus development's plan for the site includes a tower that might stand as much as 50 stories tall
That would be crazy, and surely a contender for the tallest tower outside Chicago, a title now held by that office building in Oakbrook. I just hope the design isn't like Sherman Plaza.
     
     
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I want it.
I think Evanston would nuke the city before allowing it.
Any problem with the O'Hare approach flying pretty close by? Might not be since the Irving Park is pretty close from the eastern approach.
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You think maybe they'll finish Sherman Plaza first?
     
     
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This is an unexpected twist, maybe the 4th Preb tower is not dead after all.....

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After Natarus, how does downtown real estate picture change?


March 1, 2007
BY DAVID ROEDER Business Reporter

There's a new powerbroker in commercial development downtown, and most already in that business don't know much about him.

He's Brendan Reilly, 35, who through his election as 42nd Ward alderman has become a man developers need to meet. In taking over Chicago's "super ward," covering most of the Loop and the Near North Side, Reilly can sculpt the changing skyline.

Because of "aldermanic privilege," the long-standing say over zoning that City Council members have in the wards they represent, Reilly can arm-twist design concessions from developers. His influence will be felt in such projects as the proposed 150-story lakefront "spire" by Santiago Calatrava and coming changes in the Loop's Block 37.

Reilly also could be faced with a resurrected plan to build high-rise condominiums just west of the Fourth Presbyterian Church on Michigan Avenue.

He ran on a platform that the incumbent he defeated, nine-termer Burton Natarus, had gotten too cozy with developers. But Natarus killed the Fourth Presbyterian high-rise, and Reilly quickly could be asked to review that decision, or consider an alternate development by the church.

"All options are open" for the church deal, said the Rev. John Buchanan, pastor of Fourth Presbyterian. Buchanan said no decisions have been made about approaching the new alderman, but he noted that the church never has withdrawn its proposal.


In an interview, Reilly said developers should expect the same traits he intends to show 42nd Ward voters, "an open door, objectivity and fairness." He said he supports new construction as "the engine that makes the city run," but promised to manage the approval process better than Natarus did.

"During the campaign, I often used Fourth Presbyterian as an example of how he mismanaged downtown development," Reilly said. Natarus, he said, signaled support for the 57-story tower, then retracted it after intense community pressure and after the church had spent large sums to plan it.

Reilly said he will widely circulate details of proposed developments and solicit feedback before taking his own stance. "I will require healthy community input and information- sharing by the developer," he said.

The Calatrava spire has caused confusion because its developer, Garrett Kelleher, has shown its latest design to insiders but not to community groups. Reilly said having a building with the Calatrava signature "is a great opportunity for Chicago, however the devil is in the details."

Kelleher's attorney, Thomas Murphy, said his client will meet with Reilly soon. Murphy said he expects the political change won't be detrimental to the project. Kelleher wants to almost triple the number of homes in the building as compared to an earlier plan that Natarus and Mayor Daley endorsed.

Natarus could be colorful and unpredictable in his dealings with development issues, but real estate executives also said he was fair and a tough critic. They said they expect similar attributes from Reilly, a former aide to Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan and most recently a public affairs executive for AT&T.

Jack Guthman, a zoning attorney for leading developers, said he has met Reilly and thinks "he's a balanced and thoughtful person" who will entertain reasonable discussions.

Natarus, Guthman added, didn't deserve the charge of being too project-friendly. "He was always upfront and straight-forward, even on things we didn't like to hear," Guthman said.

Joel Carlins, who is responsible for the multibuilding Lakeshore East project north of Grant Park, said Reilly moderated his rhetoric about development as the campaign proceeded, making clear that he judges projects by their overall good for the ward.

Reilly won with financial and staff help from organized labor. "If unions are one of his concerns, we employ 1,000 union members at Lakeshore East," Carlins said.
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While I hate to quote something that David Roeder wrote, I believe that this new alderman will have so much influence on the issues that matter most to this forum that a little background knowledge on his postions with developers is very important. And hey if we get a redesigned 4th Presb high-rise out of all this change in city hall than I'm all for it.
     
     
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That's good to hear the high rise tower behind 4th Pres is being resurrected from dead. I hope the tower's height will not be decreased just to appease the nimby crybabies living in that area.
     
     
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I would only support the 4th Pres deal if they were building truly great architecture... which they definitely were not.
     
     
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I forgot to post this before, but I went to the 1000 South Michigan Avenue sales center last week, and I was told that they were like 65% - 70% sold. That's a big increase in a small period of time. Buit hey, if it helps the tower get built...
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On the platform at Merchandise Mart I saw this at the 161 W. Kinzie site:



Appears to be a soil testing rig.

Sorry about the bad quality, only had the camera on my phone.
     
     
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the downside is that focus development's two previous evanston highrises, church street station & sherman plaza, are both quite regrettably bland.
Yeah I know what you mean. Focus development also has a proposal to redevelop an entire city block in Palatine. The proposal is very solid in terms of the density and the first floor retail.
But the archetecture is just meh, and kind of a jumble. Not bad, but not really good either.
     
     
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^^^^^^^^^
I actually really like that. The arches are a nice touch.
     
     
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I forgot to post this before, but I went to the 1000 South Michigan Avenue sales center last week, and I was told that they were like 65% - 70% sold. That's a big increase in a small period of time. Buit hey, if it helps the tower get built...
Maybe some potential customers were holding out for the additional phases of Park 1000 but once word got out they sold the lot they all decided to buy at Park 1000?
     
     
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I was talking my realtor yesterday, he said that museum park west recently broke ground (which is old news, i think) and he said that just west of there (between indiana & michigan, south of roosevelt) they are proposed an 80-story building. Anyone have any word on this?

In other 2nd ward news, i sent an email tuesday to fioretti. The general jist (or is it gist) was that i didn't want to see the ward become opposed to new development (considering his big campaign point was that he took no money from developers) simply because it is new. I added all the other concerns that we forum people talk about when concerning an alderman and their relation to new development.
He actually called me last evening and talked to me about the development in the ward and his opinion on it. I actually thought he seemed very open to good development and he agreed with me that skyscraper projects shouldn't be forced to become parking pedestals. There was more, but overall i got a positive feeling about him and his intentions. So... that either means he is genuine or blowing smoke up my a$$.

I know the 42nd ward has some implications for building, anyone else have any opinion on the 2nd?
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