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Old Posted Aug 30, 2026, 2:46 PM
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John Petty, senior partner for KPC Group, had just returned from a site visit at Downtown Los Angeles’ infamous “Graffiti Towers,” the beleaguered mega-development that his firm recently began working to resurrect after it stalled about seven years ago. Like so much of the mixed-use project thus far, cleanup was proving to be tougher than expected. Each balcony took between 45 minutes and three hours to clean, with some having a few layers of work to scrub.

It’s another hurdle in what’s been an exhaustive process. Chaudhuri sees it as a marquee project, both for downtown and for his portfolio. He’s in legacy mode,” said Petty. “He is willing to sacrifice economics for something that he can be proud to have been a part of in creating, essentially, a trophy-type property in Downtown Los Angeles. That’s the nature of Dr. Chaudhuri,” said Petty. “If you ever have an opportunity to talk to him, he’s just a Type A of a Type A, and somebody whose instincts are better than anybody I’ve ever worked with before.”

The company is keeping the design the same as Oceanwide to make it easier and quicker to get entitlements from the city, and KPC believes they’re well on their way to making that happen, since the city has been very cooperative. KPC did evaluate the potential of cutting up the existing floor plan to create smaller condo units, but determined that would open the firm up to more expenses and permitting issues, and could even bring up environmental review issues by increasing the density. KPC believes there’s an opportunity to market these condos as investment opportunities for the emerging middle class in India and South Asia. Petty called these buyers “fertile ground.” He also said they’re making progress with funding, and have been fielding offers from financial institutions and private equity firms, though he didn’t name any specific parties of interest.

Funders from China originally got the Oceanwide proj started, & ppl from that country over 10 yrs ago were needed to get other major devlpt in dtla to break ground. China's historically most famous city is a warning about the way that positive trends can fall apart & go downward very quickly....

https://youtu.be/MIHWsuGhL-M?si=cGHLQkoBblpuJ11N

Big funding is going to certain cities in florida, texas....NYC still lands a lot of financing.

In LA, not sure how mitsui fudosan is handling funding for this proj, which got city approvals some time ago. I'd like to see this devlpt across from Whole Foods on Grand Av break ground asap. The only other active commercial site in dtla I'm aware of right now would be the corner of Hill St & Olympic where erehwon is supposed to put a store.


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Relatives told me last wk that 2 major projs in pasadena, finalized a few years ago, have yet to break ground. They said that's in spite of land for them being shuttered for quite awhile too. But banks & investment firms are hesitant to loan money without full confidence in who or what they're giving funds to. In places like Shanghai, sources for financing have also completely dried up.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2026, 3:38 PM
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Hard disagree. To me, she's just a vacancy truther. I think most of her "proof" means very little. Counting lights in windows is BS for example (for many reasons), as is the "primary residence" deduction claim she makes.
Ya agreed. Half of her — is nonsense
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2026, 5:01 PM
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At least she is trying to illuminate issues that may be affecting the housing crisis. What are you doing?
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At least she is trying to illuminate issues that may be affecting the housing crisis. What are you doing?
She is making up fake issues that are not affecting housing that often leads people to support counterproductive housing policy.

To answer your question, I am actively building housing in LA.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2026, 7:27 PM
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Looks like the parcel on Sycamore Ave next to Sirius will be a two story creative office building. Studio murnane is the architect. Confused exactly which parcel
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Looks like the parcel on Sycamore Ave next to Sirius will be a two story creative office building. Studio murnane is the architect. Confused exactly which parcel
Cool! That's a great little pocket. Where did you come across this info? I looked on their site and it shows the project as "Under Construction".

Edit: Unfortunately it's pretty clear looking at the renderings that this is across the street at 1000 La Brea. I say unfortunately because CIM has been planning a 34 story 500+ unit mixed use tower there that looked great and would have been West Hollywood's tallest tower. If this two story office building is really under construction, then that plan, at least in its current form, is almost certainly dead.
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At least she is trying to illuminate issues that may be affecting the housing crisis. What are you doing?
shes spewing —
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2026, 10:42 PM
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Looks like the parcel on Sycamore Ave next to Sirius will be a two story creative office building. Studio murnane is the architect. Confused exactly which parcel
It is the northwest corner of Sycamore and Romaine on the back side of what used to be the cement plant. The front (la brea) part will be that residential tower. This office project does not take up the whole lot and the tower portion is still vacant.
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Looks like the parcel on Sycamore Ave next to Sirius will be a two story creative office building. Studio murnane is the architect. Confused exactly which parcel
A bit short, but quite a nice looking building regardless.
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2026, 1:19 AM
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It is the northwest corner of Sycamore and Romaine on the back side of what used to be the cement plant. The front (la brea) part will be that residential tower. This office project does not take up the whole lot and the tower portion is still vacant.
Ahh I looked up the site plan and you're correct. Great news then!
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She is making up fake issues that are not affecting housing that often leads people to support counterproductive housing policy.

To answer your question, I am actively building housing in LA.
There are properties in dtla, however, like the ones owned by the Cherits, that have a long history of sitting vacant for yrs on end. If the Cherits' bldgs are treated like pieces on a Monopoly game board, who's to say that other owners aren't doing the same thing?

I recall over 15 yrs ago asking a poster...who commented here maybe 2 or 3 times...about the condo towers - one very tall, the other shorter - originally proposed across from pershing Sq. It was promoted as Park Fifth & would have been a game changer for dtla. The person said he was involved in the proj & so I asked him what was the latest. I was hoping he'd mention funding had been finalized & groundbreaking was set. But...jeez....I just remember he reacted with a lot of indignation...like who pissed in his cornflakes.

That proj was never built, although a smaller version is now there, which has helped fill in one of the major gaps on 5th St between Olive & Hill St.


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I saw urbanize LA posting an article today about the completion of this proj, which went faster than I thought it would. I've become accustomed to new devlpt in LA missing completion dates by months or yrs. This site has been another gap, but along Fig St in the USC area instead of 5th St....

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the proj's current leasing rate can be found here...

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Old Posted Sep 1, 2026, 7:33 PM
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Same! I am surprised that this was built very quickly.
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It's funny that Citywatch is posting about Park Fifth for some reason. Great project, scuttled by the recession. I remember that the original design for Gehry's Grand Ave project was about to break ground as well before the full weight of the recession hint. What could have been, if only things held off until 2009 or so...
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^ $62 or $82 million?

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The Sixth Street PARC — Park, Arts and River Connectivity — is a 12-acre project stretching from the Arts District to Boyle Heights. The $82 million public investment will include playgrounds, a soccer field, green space and other recreational amenities.

Margarita Amador, another neighbor, said she worries the park could become another MacArthur Park. "We definitely don't want a MacArthur Park duplication. We foresee that happening," Amador said.

Earlier this year, Los Angeles police showed FOX 11 where thieves had ripped out copper wiring from the nearly $600 million bridge, leaving portions without lighting. On Tuesday, FOX 11 found lights next to the new park that appeared to be out.

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don't have an opinion about this in Samo, but I recall Fig street across from the LA convention ctr before the lightboards of the Circa apt bldg. The ribbon of message boards that are supposed to be added to the former Oceanwide proj will further help that street. Although ppl out & about & walking around is the main way to give life to an area.


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The 3rd St Promenade has really gone downhill since Covid in 2020, which I once didn't think would decline the way it has. Same thing with sections of SF around Market St or Union Sq. So if it can happen there it can happen anywhere, particularly for dtla. DT doesn't even have the advantage of an ocean, beaches or a pier, or a place famous for a song about ppl wanting to leave their heart in.


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The University of Michigan's Ross School of Business has officially opened a 20,000-square-foot campus in Downtown Los Angeles, cutting the ribbon on a space tucked inside one of the city's most architecturally ambitious developments. The new outpost sits at The Grand LA in the Grand Avenue Arts Corridor, giving the business school a permanent home base in a region with one of its largest alumni populations outside Michigan itself.

California is home to more than 56,000 University of Michigan alumni — the largest U-M alumni population outside the state of Michigan — with over 20,000 living in Southern California and more than 12,000 in Los Angeles specifically, according to the Alumni Association of the University of Michigan. Broader migration data helps explain why a Midwestern business school would plant a permanent flag on the West Coast. An Upjohn Institute study found that while only 35 percent of University of Michigan graduates remain in greater Detroit, California attracts roughly 6 percent of U-M alumni overall, forming a significant out-of-state talent pipeline toward West Coast tech and business hubs.
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2026, 5:14 PM
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An interesting exercise, found on LA Reddit:

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Most people don't live in the mountains or desert. Big news. On a serious note though, they should by doing this by metro area/developed area, not county area since essentially 100% of the population lives in only 30% of the counties area anyways.




Out of curiosity I asked GPT to estimate the % over developed area and it estimated that 38% of that population lives in roughly 19% of the counties developed area.

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It's funny that Citywatch is posting about Park Fifth for some reason. Great project, scuttled by the recession. I remember that the original design for Gehry's Grand Ave project was about to break ground as well before the full weight of the recession hint. What could have been, if only things held off until 2009 or so...
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I recall over 15 yrs ago asking a poster...who commented here maybe 2 or 3 times...about the condo towers - one very tall, the other shorter - originally proposed across from pershing Sq. It was promoted as Park Fifth & would have been a game changer for dtla. The person said he was involved in the proj & so I asked him what was the latest. I was hoping he'd mention funding had been finalized & groundbreaking was set. But...jeez....I just remember he reacted with a lot of indignation...like who pissed in his cornflakes.

That proj was never built, although a smaller version is now there, which has helped fill in one of the major gaps on 5th St between Olive & Hill St.


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I remember hearing about all these older proposals and how they were going to be a 'game changer' for downtown... "Game Changing" requires some kind of civic structural shift, like new design languages or allowing of something new that hasnt been done. LA Live was the only 'game changer' for downtown, and moreover, it changed the game for stadium development across the country. It guided development for the surrounding blocks which then created common design languaging from Staples to LA Live and even across the street to Oceanwide, Circa, and the AC Hotel/Moxy. If you look you will notice that all the bases of the projects mentioned have about the same height as LA Live and all the towers are pushed back and follow the curvature of Staples Center, even the JW Marriott massing steps back from the arena air rights.


The greater Grand Avenue master plan is the only other 'game changer' that allowed the Broad to be built and the Colburn expansion, etc. The old Park 5th was very nice, but it is basically Onni's 825 S Hill tower and Level, which isnt much of a game changer, but just needed development. What game I think could have been changed is the look and feel of skyscrapers in Los Angeles via the City House and Olympic! If those were successful, we might be looking at greater varied designs and materials, more than just square glass box highrises in LA. Anyway, onto current projects.

While not a ground up development, the Barrington Place 3 tower condo complex is getting a complete renovation by gutting the inside and reskining the exterior. They will look very similar to the brand new landmark tower also seen in some of the shots and will basically be 3 brand new high-rises for the westside.









Speaking of ground up renovations, it almost feels like Oceanwide is an existing skyscraper that is also being renovated. As my earlier statement was corrected, yes, work is progressing on the central tower cleanup. The north and south towers are moving slower in their outward visual progress.



Then to give visuals to the La Brea West Hollywood tower conversation on the site of the old cement plant, you will see that the low rise commercial development is on the Sycamore side of the plot with the La Brea side waiting for tower construction.



Also just remembered that I didnt post these Apple Campus photos from July. I like the wood paneling! I thought from renderings that it was going to be constructed with Cross Laminated Timber, but its just panels. Still nice though




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