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[odinthor]

Fantastic post, FW--thanks!

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I concur....Excellent indepth post, Flyingwedge.

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[ethereal_reality]

Refresh my memory. . .


Have we seen the Sunset Inn on NLA?

"Antique Vintage Photograph Sunset Inn Santa Monica Anheuser Adolphus Busch"


Currently on eBay



I wondered why the seller mentioned Anheuser Busch but then I saw their logo on the building. (see below)


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And here's a closer look at the top.


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[ethereal_reality]

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Here's an interesting snapshot that shows a large sign on the cliff.



Currently on eBay




Let's take a closer look.


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Pacific Palisades, yes. . .but have we seen Huntington Palisades?
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[ethereal_reality]

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Was there at one point in time a little cabin built in Exposition Park? (perhaps next to the Rose Garden )

I ask because I happened upon this snapshot on eBay.

"Flapper Woman Rustic Cabin Exposition Park Los Angeles 1920s Snapshot Photo"



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[Flyingwedge]

That little house, designed to be a piece of Scotland, is left over from a big flower show at Exposition Park in October 1921.
Exactly where the house was in the park I'm not sure:




Oct 21, 1921, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


It was repurposed as a tool house:



Jul 23, 1922, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


Here's the tool house in 1924:



"Photograph of exterior of Tool House in Exposition Park with child standing in front, Los Angeles, 1924."

UC12031668 @ USC Digital Library

[Alkapone]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Here are a couple of snapshots that just showed up on eBay.


"Vintage Texaco Gas Station Photo Los Angeles Slauson Ave LA Investment Co Ford"


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eBay
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Odd that the listings were all about a gas station, usually not that uncommon, but not a single mention in either about being a rather rare inclusion of a Helms delivery vehicle at work. (And a “related” listing of 12 in a group has one that caught Van de Kamps drive-in on San Fernando Road..that’s one rarely shot.)

[Alkapone]

And in that listing of 12, one appears to be the Egyptian Theater courtyard looking out toward the boulevard with a wishing well by a low stone wall. Not sure why they have a reference to Long Beach for that group.

[Alkapone]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Refresh my memory. . .


Have we seen the Sunset Inn on NLA?

"Antique Vintage Photograph Sunset Inn Santa Monica Anheuser Adolphus Busch"


Currently on eBay



I wondered why the seller mentioned Anheuser Busch but then I saw their logo on the building. (see below)


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And here's a closer look at the top.


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A Sunset Inn ad was first mentioned back in 2016 here:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170279&page=1686

Graham did some history of it on her site, and I believe Martin Turnbull may have a posting too. There’s a group of Santa Monica photos that are taken along the side and rear of the building moving along that street and they may be buried in the USC digital files…maybe engineering department related. It was also captured in a couple of rare shots on the PE Air Line where it once ducked into the tunnel heading down to the beach and up to Long Wharf. The Inn can be seen sitting perched above the old rail cut from the SE angle. The shots are also in online files but tricky to locate.

[Alkapone]

One of the images of the Air Line Tunnel and Sunset Inn was subsequently included in this substack post:
https://opnews.substack.com/p/the-street-seen-main-street-bridge

[ethereal_reality]

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A mystery cabin.

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

That little house, designed to be a piece of Scotland, is left over from a big flower show at Exposition Park in October 1921.
Exactly where the house was in the park I'm not sure:

Excellent sleuthing, Flyingwedge....Thanks for answering my question!

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[ethereal_reality]

Negatives recently listed on eBay.


Aftermath of the Cotton Club fire in Culver City. [1950]


eBay.


"Negatives Culver City Zucca’s Sebastian’s Cotton Club 1950 Fire Los Angeles"



















........................................................................What is the structure in the background that appears to have a dome?



It reminds me of the building in Hiroshima that survived the atomic bomb.

This one.




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[ethereal_reality]

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As a reminder (and for newcomers)- here's Sebastian's Cotton Club during its Hey-Day.



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[ethereal_reality]

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Currently on eBay

Here's an excellent vintage photograph of a Pacific Electric train in front of the Santa Fe Rail Station in Los Angeles.




"1900s Pacific Electric Railway Trolley Santa Fe Station Los Angeles Photo Grande"


Thanks for the follow-up on the Sunset Inn, Alkapone. I appreciate it.
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[Alkapone]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Currently on eBay

Here's an excellent vintage photograph of a Pacific Electric train in front of the Santa Fe Rail Station in Los Angeles.




"1900s Pacific Electric Railway Trolley Santa Fe Station Los Angeles Photo Grande"


Thanks for the follow-up on the Sunset Inn, Alkapone. I appreciate it.
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Might seem a bit confusing but this may be a line that was held as the Los Angeles Interurban Electric Railway Company (LAIU) under the Huntington regime which owned the “old PE”. See #26 in Young’s 1904 guide here: https://www.erha.org/youngs.htm

Some of the local PE lines were given over to LARy (like Temple Street) or maybe even abandoned, especially around the time of the Great Merger of 1911 which created the “new PE” and folded in the LAIU. Of course the Dash sign indicates a “West Jefferson” routing so this might be a later consolidation of lines or some other explanation that needs researching..”don’t ask me, I just got here too”.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Refresh my memory. . .

Have we seen the Sunset Inn on NLA?

"Antique Vintage Photograph Sunset Inn Santa Monica Anheuser Adolphus Busch"


Currently on eBay

There's a lot of info and articles about the Sunset Inn at homesteadmuseum.blog. The aerial below shows Colorado and Ocean in 1928 with the Sunset Inn at the center. The PE Air Line tunnel mentioned by Alkapone can also be seen.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's an interesting snapshot that shows a large sign on the cliff.


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Pacific Palisades, yes. . .but have we seen Huntington Palisades?

Here are a couple of pictures of the Huntington Palisades signage. The first shows the northern end. It's dated as "approximately 1927".

Image of construction workers working on a walkway and staircases of the Lighthouse Bathhouse on the beach in Pacific Palisades, California, with a small part of the remains of the Long Wharf at far right. A sign for the Huntington Palisades general sales office can be seen on a cliff above.

Huntington DL

This is the southern end, taken from somewhere near where the 101 Ocean Avenue condos are today. The remains of the Long Wharf can be seen here on the far left.

Santa Monica Canyon by the ocean looking across to the Huntington Palisades. Photograph taken in the late 1920s or early 1930s, judging by the automobiles.

LAPL

There still weren't many houses there in 1933 when this aerial was taken. The vantage points of the photos above are at either side of this view.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

[Alkapone]

As mentioned a while back, the Pacific Electric’s early 600-class arch window cars were transferred from storage in San Francisco and rebuilt as enclosed cars to operate downin Southern California. They were built as open air cars for use on a steam line out to the Cliff House area but were later found to be unsuitable without major work. Now Alamy has provided us with an image of what the cars looked like before they were moved south to Los Angeles (citation note with image) here: https://www.alamy.com/the-street-railway...1b1c3657dbf55d8da6a43b8f7c6&searchtype=0

The PE 600 tyoe before leaving the bay area…



sourced from Alamy as linked above.

[Alkapone]

Originally Posted by Alkapone

Might seem a bit confusing but this may be a line that was held as the Los Angeles Interurban Electric Railway Company (LAIU) under the Huntington regime which owned the “old PE”. See #26 in Young’s 1904 guide here: https://www.erha.org/youngs.htm

Some of the local PE lines were given over to LARy (like Temple Street) or maybe even abandoned, especially around the time of the Great Merger of 1911 which created the “new PE” and folded in the LAIU. Of course the Dash sign indicates a “West Jefferson” routing so this might be a later consolidation of lines or some other explanation that needs researching..”don’t ask me, I just got here too”.

A possible clue on dating the image…In 1908 the “old PE” announced that all LAIU lines would henceforth be operated as PERy lines. But the 1911 roster for the “new PE” states that car #119 “never existed”. So it would seem that this car should have been photographed in the 1908-1910 timeframe and may have then been removed from the rosters either by rebuilding under another number or via outright transfer to the LARy properties..(.And it’s always possible that it may have been scrapped for some reason before the changes.)

[Alkapone]

Here is the link to the LAIU roster with notes about original numbers: https://erha.org/laiurs.htm

LAIU seems to have inherited lines of the old Los Angeles Traction Company (LAT) as well as their cars. That could explain the University and West Jefferson parts of this mystery photo, but LAT cars were all even numbered only. So the group we might expect to find this car in, a total of 11 known, surrounds the number 119 but does not include it due to that LAT oddity. It would seem that PERy somehow put an odd numbered car right into this lineup but how that came about is still the big question. At any rate, the city lines of LAIU that were not put into new PE were transfered over to the LARy system. And the next era of rearrangements began there. This line may have gone, at least in part, to the “J”-line.