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Old Posted Jul 2, 2026, 3:44 AM
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City approves mega development that will alter downtown L.A. skyline

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Los Angeles Times
07/01/2026

A massive real estate development that would include more than 1,500 residences, dramatically transform three city blocks and alter the downtown Los Angeles skyline was approved Tuesday by the City Council. The planned Fourth & Central complex would cost $2 billion to build and include a mix of residential, office, restaurant and shop spaces in multiple distinct buildings over 7.6 acres. The location is now a collection of cold storage facilities, parking lots, and warehouses in Skid Row near its boundary with the Arts District.

The project was first unveiled in 2021 and has undergone a lengthy review process that included environmental impact studies and objections from people and organizations in nearby Little Tokyo concerned about its scale and potential to gentrify the historic neighborhood. The owner of the site, Los Angeles Cold Storage, agreed to reduce the height of its tallest planned tower from 44 stories to 30. Fourth & Central’s approved plan calls for 10 buildings, including a 30-story residential skyscraper . In total, the proposal calls for 572 condominiums and 949 apartments, with at least 262 units set aside as affordable housing. Earlier plans included a hotel, which has been scrapped.

If feasible, the developers agreed to reuse a six-story brick masonry building on 4th Street, dating to the early 1900s, that is still used to chill goods. L.A.’s early cold storage facilities were located on Central and Santa Fe avenues near the Santa Fe rail line, food brokers, distributors and food processing plants, the Los Angeles Conservancy said.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2026, 2:32 PM
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Can you please stop with the random, clickbait-y, travel influencer videos giving their "perspective" on "the state" of a city as massive and multi-faceted as Los Angeles.

I truly think you are the only one on the forum that gets value out of them
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I scroll past posts that don't interest me. for instance, I don't care for posts that have a few words & give a brief opinion on some story. But lots of ppl like posts like that or post that way, but not me.

I thought the vid gave an interesting rundown from a vlogger on what he just experienced in LA. It was another type of response to ppl like the SSPer who gave his own opinion on the current state of LA. The comments in the vid from the former resident from Atlanta was another opinion.

Again, I find brief posts similar to "I hope that's built" or "I like this" or "I don't like that"...or posts complaining about other posts....not interesting. I try avoid posting like that. But other forummers are into doing that.

different strokes for different folks.

this post would bore me too if it didn't include a story or vid like this....


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The trolling by citywatch in this thread is an abomination.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2026, 7:07 PM
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I'm excited for 4th & Central simply because its going to spur soooo much development over there by setting a precedent for dense development in the area. What i can see ( if it gets built and is successful) is that it will spring up new projects like what happened for south park. It'll be fun to see development from this spring up to bridge the gap between the Arts district and the rest of downtown, even though i know some are randomly infatuated with Skid row remaining untouched.
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There's like a 10% chance that 4th and Central gets built. The property owner's developer partner has already left the project.

But in brighter news, I was in downtown Culver City today, and it is thriving! Lots of great looking new development and very few retail vacancies. The new Apple Studios HQ is looking better than expected as well. The building is clad in what is either bronze or copper and looks very striking.
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There's like a 10% chance that 4th and Central gets built. The property owner's developer partner has already left the project.

But in brighter news, I was in downtown Culver City today, and it is thriving! Lots of great looking new development and very few retail vacancies. The new Apple Studios HQ is looking better than expected as well. The building is clad in what is either bronze or copper and looks very striking.
It's 10% chance not because of anything in particular but because this is DTLA. The retired DTLA thread is now an archive of hundreds of never-happened developments.

I really do hope this happens. And I hope that little alley way can become a true paseo that isn't just entrances to housing but with a good number of third space that includes shops and parks.

But looking at the area, people in DTLA really have an absurdly high impression of where they live. You're on the border of skid row! Even if this becomes reality, there is no way that area is suddenly on the road to gentrification that should worry anyone...sadly.
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https://deadline.com/2026/07/orbital-studios-moving-to-television-city-los-angeles-1236975338/

Television City cleared house for the redevelopment, but now new companies are moving back in? This does not bode well for the redevelopment happening any time soon. I never really cared about new studio space, but loved the idea of Fairfax getting a new row of retail. Guess it's gonna stay a parking lot for the foreseeable future.
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Television City cleared house for the redevelopment, but now new companies are moving back in? This does not bode well for the redevelopment happening any time soon. I never really cared about new studio space, but loved the idea of Fairfax getting a new row of retail. Guess it's gonna stay a parking lot for the foreseeable future.
I get what you mean but its not a total L. We need some positive news for the economy right now. I'd rather see people try to fix Fairfax Ave first.
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From my understanding, they cleared house to avoid the headache of trying to film during construction but would remain a working studio during the time. So it kinda makes sense they moved all the heavy hitters to the valley and other spots while allowing smaller lesser-known productions move into film during non-construction times which will most likely be over night. I worked on the Tyra Banks show (embarrassing i know) and "To tell the truth" (the recent remake) briefly before it was moved to the valley. Continuing production during construction is doable.
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Hello from San Diego, has anyone seen any SB 79 permits in the LA area yet?

So far none in San Diego, likely some in preliminary review in some local cities but no permits. Likely going to wait a month or 2 for those to get permits.

Palo Alto has gotten 5 SB79 permits publicly, many bay area cities likely to follow.
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Last night, the hubs and I ended up staying at the Dream in Hollywood. First on our itinerary was the Arts District, where Jason Bentley was spinning at a KCRW event. As we searched for parking, it became clear that the entire Arts District was packed. There lines out the door at several places (including our venue, with a two-block line that we hadn't anticipated!).

Afterwards, we headed back to Cahuenga and Selma, figuring we could just valet the car and walk to grab something to eat before a nightcap and bed. Walking to and from a so-so pizza joint on Hollywood Blvd., we were both happily surprised at how packed the sidewalks were, and again, lines to get into bars and venues even at midnight. It was really impressive!

Crude snapshots from the room. I see cranes between Hollywood and Downtown.



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The cranes you see are for a massive sound stage / production office complex being built on Santa Monica near western.
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https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/mayor-bass...roject-under-her-executive-directive-one

3200 units of affordable senior housing announced for Warner Center. Somehow the city is also partially funding this?



Love the scale. Wish the only way this scale could get built wasn't through subsidizing boomer housing. LA needs young people too!
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Great project, and agreed. I wish the city would support and the market would build more of these projects for all ages at market rate. Just up the street a block is the Orange Line station and you could fit this projects footprint multiple times in the parking lots next to it. Lets also build 3,000 market rate units there.

The huge Rocketdyne site across the street could be a large park + thousands of units of housing. Huge boon to the local businesses and the mall across the street.
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3200 units of affordable senior housing announced for Warner Center. Somehow the city is also partially funding this?



Love the scale. Wish the only way this scale could get built wasn't through subsidizing boomer housing. LA needs young people too!
Looks great! I think someone mentioned the height of these proposed towers, but I can't find the post. Do you know how tall they might be?
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This awesome for the area.
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Last night, the hubs and I ended up staying at the Dream in Hollywood. First on our itinerary was the Arts District, where Jason Bentley was spinning at a KCRW event. As we searched for parking, it became clear that the entire Arts District was packed. There lines out the door at several places (including our venue, with a two-block line that we hadn't anticipated!).

Afterwards, we headed back to Cahuenga and Selma, figuring we could just valet the car and walk to grab something to eat before a nightcap and bed. Walking to and from a so-so pizza joint on Hollywood Blvd., we were both happily surprised at how packed the sidewalks were, and again, lines to get into bars and venues even at midnight. It was really impressive!

Crude snapshots from the room. I see cranes between Hollywood and Downtown.



Sounds like fun.
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Great news, Oceanwide sale moving forward. City and county both dropped their objections, buyer has 90 days to remove the graffiti and 6 months to close (barring a mutually agreed upon extension)
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Older bldgs in south park that are around newer devlpt...


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Rundown or abandoned properties in south park would be better torn down instead of remaining eyesores. I know widespread demolition is reminiscent of what was done to old bunker hill, but photos of that area also showed it originally had a lot of worn out, low slung properties. When new devlpt is going to take too long, the only sign of hope will be at least cleaning up an area.

The Arts dist has long been the same way, yet it has been slowly improved. But that's also because of new mixed in with old. The area near the convention ctr, however, uses a different format & economic model. More of it's also visible to more ppl, so its condition is more noticeable.

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