Immigrant population of cities around the world

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by Northern Light

If you disagree with me, fine, politely explain why and provide evidence.

I don't "disagree" with you. There is nothing to disagree about. You simply read my post too fast, did not understand what it was I was posting, and commented too rapidly.

Originally Posted by Northern Light

Now, respectfully, you cited a population of 3.09 million for the FUA, this aligns almost exactly with the population of the City of Toronto proper.

3.09 million is NOT the population of the FUA. Re-read again.

[Docere]

Toronto Census Metropolitan Area (2021 Census)

Immigrant population 2,862,850

Americas 410,150
Europe 553,105
Africa 173,195
Asia 1,718,685
Oceania and other 7,710

India 394,620
China 296,625
Philippines 212,655
Pakistan 128,065
Hong Kong 99,515
Sri Lanka 99,280
Jamaica 95,900
Italy 87,875
Iran 87,105
United Kingdom 85,895
Guyana 64,885
Portugal 63,460
Vietnam 62,100
Poland 50,405
South Korea 48,770
United States 48,265
Trinidad and Tobago 40,855
Bangladesh 36,745
Iraq 34,575
Russia 33,760
Ukraine 33,160
Afghanistan 27,415
Egypt 26,810
Nigeria 23,935
Greece 23,525
Romania 22,975
Syria 19,170
Germany 18,405
Colombia 17,365
Brazil 15,425
Taiwan 14,935
Mexico 14,445
United Arab Emirates 14,430
Turkey 14,410
Lebanon 14,355
Israel 13,980
Ghana 13,785
South Africa 13,165
Saudi Arabia 12,710
Ethiopia 12,695
Somalia 12,400
Serbia 11,885
Ecuador 11,155
Albania 11,085
Croatia 10,900
Kenya 10,845
El Salvador 10,545
Hungary 9,825
Tanzania 9,665
Bosnia and Herzegovina 9,435
Peru 8,515
France 8,235
Malaysia 8,160
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 8,040
Venezuela 7,905
Ireland 7,675
Nepal 7,550
Argentina 7,130
Eritrea 7,080
Chile 7,045
Barbados 6,970
Japan 6,825
Kuwait 6,780
Grenada 6,640
Bulgaria 6,380
North Macedonia 6,135
Mauritius 6,120
Netherlands 6,070
Jordan 5,985
Cuba 5,685
Belarus 5,480
Uganda 5,215
Indonesia 5,135

# 50000+: 14
# 20000+: 26
# 10000+: 47
# 5000+: 73

[dimondpark]

Originally Posted by mhays

Bellevue and Redmond are looking good.

They're the "San Jose" of the Seattle area, though located more like Oakland rather than Tacoma and with less annexation.

Yeah, basically.

The only break in 30%+ in the 510 area code is ironically the Oakland-Berkeley area(in BOLD RED)

These are all the cities and towns along the 58-mile drive from Hercules to the 101/880 interchange in San Jose.
36.8%-Hercules, CA($55,501)
33.8%-Pinole, CA($51,487)
31.1%-El Sobrante, CA($47,214)
44.2%-San Pablo, CA($30,103)
34.5%-Richmond, CA($43,743)
31.4%-El Cerrito, CA($73,055)
--Contra Costa/Alameda County Line--
13.9%-Kensington, CA($113,209)
26.0%-Albany, CA($75,758)
21.1%-Berkeley, CA($69,534)
35.7%-Emeryville, CA($91,778)
28.9%-Oakland, CA($61,757)
11.5%-Piedmont, CA($146,869)
25.7%-Alameda, CA($75,137)
38.4%-San Leandro, CA(47,074)
37.7%-Ashland, CA($36,371)
41.7%-San Lorenzo, CA($41,832)
31.0%-Castro Valley, CA($60,600
45.7%-Hayward, CA($45,923)
52.7%-Union City, CA(57,977)
51.7%-Fremont, CA($77,049)
43.9%-Newark, CA($73,044)
---Alameda/Santa Clara County Line--
408 Area Code
54.6%-Milpitas, CA($69,335)
42.9%-San Jose, CA($65,945)

[Docere]

Montreal Census Metropolitan Area (2021 Census)

Immigrant population 1,022,940

Americas 223,765
Europe 246,850
Africa 245,290
Asia 305,705

Haiti 79,725
Algeria 66,735
France 63,235
Morocco 60,545
China 48,085
Italy 41,855
Lebanon 38,580
Philippines 28,970
Romania 24,620
Syria 24,545
India 24,075
Vietnam 23,665
Egypt 19,260
Colombia 19,135
Iran 18,915
United States 18,335
Tunisia 16,035
Greece 15,620
Portugal 14,570
Cameroon 14,415
Mexico 14,245
Peru 12,455
Sri Lanka 10,740
Pakistan 10,620
Russia 10,380
Congo (DR) 10,295
El Salvador 10,145
Moldova 9,835
United Kingdom 9,415
Ivory Coast 8,755
Bangladesh 8,630
Ukraine 8,470
Cambodia 8,435
Poland 8,340
Afghanistan 7,835
Chile 7,360
Brazil 7,205
Turkey 6,915
Venezuela 6,730
Mauritius 6,310
Germany 5,915
Senegal 5,760
Bulgaria 5,755
Belgium 5,445
Dominican Republic 5,320
Cuba 5,300
Guatemala 5,150

# 50000+: 4
# 20000+: 12
# 10000+: 27
# 5000+: 47

[Docere]

Vancouver Census Metropolitan Area (2021 Census)

Immigrant population 1,089,180

Americas 76,000
Europe 162,415
Africa 38,530
Asia 788,120
Oceania and other 24,120

China 204,825
India 151,405
Philippines 109,405
Hong Kong 76,115
United Kingdom 51,440
Iran 43,245
South Korea 42,090
Taiwan 38,670
United States 27,615
Vietnam 27,170
Japan 11,565
Germany 11,545
Pakistan 11,125
Mexico 10,060
Russia 9,350
Poland 9,210
Italy 9,090
South Africa 9,005
Malaysia 7,975
Romania 7,235
Brazil 7,100
Ukraine 7,090
Iraq 6,550
Afghanistan 5,935
Netherlands 5,145
Ireland 5,030

# 50000+: 5
# 20000+: 10
# 10000+: 14
# 5000+: 26

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by isaidso

The Central Valley is flat and has fertile soil. It's hot, dry, with little frost risk, but depends on massive human intervention and aquifer depletion. The status quo is unsustainable long term.

Its sustainable when/if the Cali population abandons the scarcity/de-growth mindset and just builds desal plants.
Reminds me of a recent protest in Wisconsin against a datacenter because it uses too much water... next to an ethanol plant that uses 3 times more water than all datacenters in Wisconsin combined.

Water is a solved issue in a developed country. Moreover, its a completely renewable resource. The constraints on water are political.

[muppet]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

For the London FUA it's 3.76 million in 2021.

In comparison it's 5.89 million for the New York FUA, 5.21 million for the Los Angeles FUA, 3.09 million for the Toronto FUA, 2.82 million* for the Paris FUA (including the people born in the overseas departments and territories), and 2.53 million in the Miami FUA.

*actually this seems to be an underestimate by the OECD, because there were 3.25 million foreign born (incl. overseas born) in the Paris Region in 2022, and the Paris FUA is slightly larger than the Paris Region, so it cannot be just 2.82 million in 2021. Perhaps they haven't included the 439,000 people born abroad with French citizenship at birth, in which case the stat would align with OECD's stat, but it's bizarre they didn't include the non-immigrant foreign born for Paris, and included them for other cities. The French statistical office only reports about the immigrants (unlike the British statistical office and the US Census Bureau who do not distinguish between immigrants and non-immigrant foreign-born). The French statistical office is not interested in the French people born abroad (of whom we have many due to our former colonial empire).

The FUA's, although measured the same way still creates distortion, thanks to where it demarcates its 'core' area to commute into, for which these outlying populations get included.

London ends up with a catchment of 8,300km calculated going into the city proper of 1,570 sq km while NYC gets to count 24,100 sq km going into a whopping 11,000 sq km, though at nearly 4x lower a density. In short the FUA stat for NYC will be counting all foreign born in an area 16% bigger than Wales.

[sopas ej]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

The worst food I ever had was a mexican restaurant in Groningen (not my choice, was at a conference and a bunch of the Europeans thought that would be a good idea for some reason). That said, Dutch food in general is nothing to write home about...

Indeed. The best food I had in Amsterdam was Indonesian food.

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Is that... bugs

No more "exotic" than eating snails.

Chapulines (grasshoppers) are delicious. If you like dried or fried shrimp, you'll like chapulines. High in protein and basically non-fat, they are very healthy---toasted and seasoned with lime, garlic, and chili, they make good tacos, or you can use them to top avocados, or just eat them as a crunchy snack with beer or a margarita. MMmm, mmm!

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Yeah, yeah. I've seen these sorts of conversations many times on online forums. You pick any country in the world, and you always have people telling you this country has great and varied cuisine, bla bla bla.

I'm talking about the everyday experience, not some fancy restaurants in the Western world. You really think Mexicans eat the things you posted on an everyday basis?

Most of those pics weren't taken in fancy restaurants. Many Mexicans I know make their own salsas. Tacos are very easy to make. What American doesn't have taco night at home? We use the store-bought corn tortillas, though. We buy the Guerrero brand:


And yeah, most people around the world make easy meals at home. But easy meals don't necessarily have to be bland and flavorless.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by muppet

The FUA's, although measured the same way still creates distortion, thanks to where it demarcates its 'core' area to commute into, for which these outlying populations get included.

London ends up with a catchment of 8,300km calculated going into the city proper of 1,570 sq km while NYC gets to count 24,100 sq km going into a whopping 11,000 sq km, though at nearly 4x lower a density. In short the FUA stat for NYC will be counting all foreign born in an area 16% bigger than Wales.

Actually for London the core city (into which people commute) is not Greater London. It's larger than Greater London, as it also includes Thurrock, Basildon, Chelmsford, and Gravesham. It's an area of 2,284 km².

Regarding the FUAs, the London FUA has a land area of 6,954 km², and the New York FUA has a land area of 21,915 km². London's FUA is smaller because London is located inside a very densely populated country, where other urban centers form their own labor markets largely separate from London, whereas New York sprawls into empty forests and fields basically.

In England, it would make no sense to include Brighton as part of a "London metro area", because Brighton is completely separate from London, whereas in the US a city as distant from downtown LA as Brighton is from the City of London may be included in the LA metro area, just because of US sprawl that extends over largely virgin territories without preexisting urban centers in their own rights.

For the same reason, although the Toulouse and the Lille FUAs have the same population (1.5 million people), one (Toulouse) extends over 6,520 km², whereas the other (Lille) extends only over 1,666 km². It doesn't mean the comparison is "unfair". It just means both cities are located in different environments. Toulouse sprawls into en empty rural desert, whereas Lille is located in a very dense urban region where other urban centers resist its pull. A place like Lens, only 28 km from Lille, forms its own metro area separate from Lille, whereas 28 km from Toulouse its only some exurbs of Toulouse.

Last but not least, the furthest areas of the New York metro area have a very low population density, so even if we took only the 6,954 km² at the center of the New York FUA, you'd find most of the foreign-born population of the New York FUA living in those 6,954 km².

[Docere]

Greater Sydney (2021 Census)

Born outside Australia 2,260,140

Europe (listed countries only) 372,633
Asia (listed countries only) 1,116,668
Africa (listed countries only) 63,196
Oceania (listed countries only) 125,658
Americas (listed countries only) 78,074

China 238,316
India 187,810
United Kingdom 179,348
Vietnam 93,778
Philippines 91,339
New Zealand 85,493
Lebanon 61,620
Nepal 59,055
Iraq 52,604
South Korea 50,702
Hong Kong 46,182
South Africa 39,564
Italy 38,762
Indonesia 35,413
Malaysia 35,002
Fiji 34,197
Pakistan 31,025
Bangladesh 27,864
Greece 26,986
Thailand 26,330
United States 25,903
Ireland 22,399
Iran 21,740
Germany 18,501
Egypt 18,441
Brazil 18,373
Syria 15,712
Afghanistan 13,950
Turkey 13,826
Cambodia 13,247
Singapore 13,204
Taiwan 13,051
Japan 12,945
Croatia 12,905
Malta 12,316
Chile 12,212
North Macedonia 11,743
Poland 11,669
Colombia 10,988
France 10,791
Canada 10,493
Netherlands 8,698
Serbia 8,193
Russia 8,053
Portugal 7,283
Argentina 6,930
Bosnia and Herzegovina 6,730
Myanmar 6,400
Tonga 5,968
Cyprus 5,553
Uruguay 5,387
Zimbabwe 5,191
Laos 5,183

# 50000+: 10
# 20000+: 23
# 10000+: 41
# 5000+: 53

Greater Melbourne (2021 Census)

Born outside Australia 1,970,614

Europe (listed countries only) 396,616
Asia (listed countries only) 1,101,149
Africa (listed countries only) 53,019
Oceania (listed countries only) 94,389
Americas (listed countries only) 41,977

India 242,635
China 166,023
United Kingdom 160,408
Vietnam 90,552
New Zealand 82,939
Sri Lanka 65,152
Philippines 58,935
Italy 58,081
Malaysia 57,345
Greece 44,956
Pakistan 29,067
South Africa 27,056
Iraq 25,041
Hong Kong 24,428
Afghanistan 23,525
Iran 20,922
United States 20,231
Indonesia 19,294
Germany 19,125
Nepal 18,510
Lebanon 18,333
North Macedonia 18,028
Turkey 17,716
Thailand 17,360
Cambodia 16,277
Malta 15,128
Ireland 14,742
South Korea 14,730
Egypt 13,312
Poland 13,052
Croatia 12,902
Myanmar 12,392
Netherlands 11,558
Fiji 11,450
Bangladesh 9,693
Taiwan 9,362
Bosnia and Herzegovina 8,502
Japan 8,476
Canada 8,449
Serbia 7,969
Chile 7,870
Ethiopia 7,576
Syria 7,549
Cyprus 7,171
France 7,063
Brazil 5,427
Ukraine 5,092
Zimbabwe 5,075

# 50000+: 9
# 20000+: 17
# 10000+: 34
# 5000+: 48

[Docere]

# of countries with at least 5000 in immigrant/foreign born population:

New York 91
London 90
Toronto 73
Los Angeles 56
Sydney 53
Washington 53
Melbourne 48
Montreal 47
Boston 44
Chicago 42
Miami 41
Houston 37
San Francisco 34
Dallas 33
Vancouver 26
Paris ?

[muppet]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Actually for London the core city (into which people commute) is not Greater London. It's larger than Greater London, as it also includes Thurrock, Basildon, Chelmsford, and Gravesham. It's an area of 2,284 km².

Regarding the FUAs, the London FUA has a land area of 6,954 km², and the New York FUA has a land area of 21,915 km². London's FUA is smaller because London is located inside a very densely populated country, where other urban centers form their own labor markets largely separate from London, whereas New York sprawls into empty forests and fields basically.

In England, it would make no sense to include Brighton as part of a "London metro area", because Brighton is completely separate from London, whereas in the US a city as distant from downtown LA as Brighton is from the City of London may be included in the LA metro area, just because of US sprawl that extends over largely virgin territories without preexisting urban centers in their own rights.

For the same reason, although the Toulouse and the Lille FUAs have the same population (1.5 million people), one (Toulouse) extends over 6,520 km², whereas the other (Lille) extends only over 1,666 km². It doesn't mean the comparison is "unfair". It just means both cities are located in different environments. Toulouse sprawls into en empty rural desert, whereas Lille is located in a very dense urban region where other urban centers resist its pull. A place like Lens, only 28 km from Lille, forms its own metro area separate from Lille, whereas 28 km from Toulouse its only some exurbs of Toulouse.

Last but not least, the furthest areas of the New York metro area have a very low population density, so even if we took only the 6,954 km² at the center of the New York FUA, you'd find most of the foreign-born population of the New York FUA living in those 6,954 km².

Yep so in short not really comparable with each other. Similar distortions puts Toulouse FUA covering a catchment of 6,570km, more than 2.5x Madrid's that covers only 2,600km and holds near 7m people. Riga's (pop 590K city proper) is the same size as Istanbul's (15m).

Less people commuting longer > more people commuting shorter, plus also reliant on where a boundary is drawn. Also something to be said how if the threshold is 15%, what do the other 85% of people do?

[Docere]

If anyone could tell me how many born in Romania, France, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Zimbabwe etc. live in all the local authorities in the "home counties" that would be great.

Otherwise we're kind of stuck with the data as the statistical agencies present them.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by muppet

Yep so in short not really comparable with each other. Similar distortions puts Toulouse FUA covering a catchment of 6,570km, more than 2.5x Madrid's that covers only 2,600km. Riga's (pop 590K city proper) is the same size as Istanbul's (15m).

I understand you don't like the FUA because it doesn't make London look as BIG as you'd like to, but no need to propagate falsehoods.

The Madrid FUA covers 11,490 km², and is therefore nearly double the land area of the Toulouse FUA.

And FUAs are perfectly comparable. What's not comparable is carving the south-eastern corner of England with 20 million people in it and claiming that this is the London metro area.

In any case, if like Yuri you're denying the accuracy of the FUAs, you're fighting a losing battle, because it's now the internationally recognized definition, whether you like it or not, more and more used, and due to be extended to non-OECD countries (China, Indonesia, etc) in the near future.

[muppet]

Sorry not Madrid, I meant Barcelona.

And it's not about London being bigger (though I do note how you keep posting that Paris is bigger than London, repeatedly in threads since FUA came out -feel free, theyre totally comparable). However a catchment based on other cities, with boundaries 6x the difference of another, despite similar populations has something to be said - I wouldnt call that comparable. 15% is pretty damn low too imo.

World - feel free to use it, but feel free for people to point out the distortions too.

And tbh, the whole metro, CSA, MSA, FUA trend to try and measure cities by commuting, rather than just using urban footprint is perplexing. Sure, a good guage on commuting, but not one on city size itself, or counts such as this. I would laugh at the idea that London (CSA 24.5m, chained CSA a ridiculous 32m) could inflate itself to be be bigger than Cairo, Seoul or Mexico City. I think it would be a bit clearer if we just said city regions, rather than list them as 'cities', and definitely not as urban counts.

Maybe geographers and city councils round the world should just take their thumbs out and count contiguous urban populations. Weird how no one does that uniformly, while spending huge amounts of data and research to measure commuters instead, and these stats becoming the archetype. (London would actually suffer this way thanks to the Green Belt, and going down the ranks -but imo it's still more representative).

UA should be the trend to measure things in, not FUA imo.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

And yeah, most people around the world make easy meals at home.

I don't agree. Some people/countries have a much more varied diet and cuisine than others. The reason why the French cuisine is renowned is not because of stuffy and expensive high-end "French" restaurants the way North Americans imagine it, the real reason is the EVERYDAY food cooked by most people.

In this respect, the best way to know what sort of food people cook, and whether or not they like elaborate food, is to step into a supermarket, and look around. Having lived in the three countries: French supermarkets beat easily the US and Mexican supermarkets in terms of food offering, variety and quality. This is because the French are much more into cooking elaborate stuff than the Americans, and I presume also the Mexicans if we judge them by their supermarkets.

The only area where Mexican supermarkets are superior to the French ones is for the fruits and vegetables, especially the tropical fruits. But for most everything else, there is simply no comparison.

Note: if the only place in France you have ever visited is the City of Paris proper, you cannot realize what I'm saying, because in the City of Paris the supermarkets are small (due to the high price of land), and their selection of food is much more limited than in the rest of France (which is the thing I find the most frustrating about Paris). In the rest of France, supermarkets are enormous, like in the picture below, and they always have an extravagant display of food. Outside of the Paris Region, they always have selections of regional products that you cannot find elsewhere (which is the highlight of all French supermarkets in the provinces), for example Brittany specialties in the supermarkets of Brittany, etc.




Even the smaller cities have enormous supermarkets. My parents' hometown in the south of France has only 150,000 inhabitants in its metro area, and they have no less than 4 super large supermarkets (each one about half the size of the one in the picture above), plus a couple more smaller supermarkets. This is on top of various traditional independent food stores in the city center and across the city, like butchers, fishmongers, fruit and vegetable stores, bakeries, patisseries, charcuteries (for cold meat, delicatessen, duck specialties), confiseries (for chocolates and sweets), olive and spice stores, and I'm probably forgetting some.

And this is just a small metro area of 150,000 people!! In Mexico that would be a metro area like Tecomán in the state of Colima:



I can never imagine a small city like Tecomán with the gargantuan food offering and variety (+ top quality) that a place like my parents' hometown can offer with its 4 enormous supermarkets and all the other stores I've mentioned. And this is not a particular case, it's like that everywhere in France. That's why the country is food paradise.

So, yes, when I lived in Mexico, I found the food rather limited and not very sophisticated in comparison to what I'm used to. And I also found it more limited than what one can find in the US (at least in the big metro areas). The French have lots of misconceptions about the US, they imagine that the food is appalling in the US and that it's very limited, but in reality in the big US metro areas you can find some variety and good quality in terms of food, although not as much as in France, but much more than in Mexico.

[JManc]

There's no way that Carrefour in that photo only sells food. We used to have an Auchan here in Houston years ago and that was pretty huge but nothing like this.

[sopas ej]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

I don't agree. Some people/countries have a much more varied diet and cuisine than others. The reason why the French cuisine is renowned is not because of stuffy and expensive high-end "French" restaurants the way North Americans imagine it, the real reason is the EVERYDAY food cooked by most people.

Well, what do you typically cook at home for dinner? I would assume what most ordinary French people cook every day for dinner wouldn't be too elaborate or labor-intensive; those are usually reserved for special occasions in every culture, unless of course someone is gonna be home to cook all the time. I assume most French people work, so during the week, meals won't have too much prep and cook time, right?

Typically, my partner and I will have steamed vegetables, maybe rice or garlic bread, or potatoes, and a braise or stew. Doesn't take too long to prep and cook, and we can season it how we want to. Then of course there's the lazy "taco" night, where we can toast the store-bought tortillas on the stove, but we make/cook our own taco fillings; sometimes ground turkey, sometimes ground pork; season the ground meat with paprika or black/pepper, garlic... once it's all cooked you can stuff your tacos with the meat, throw some queso fresco and cilantro on it, et voilà! Fast easy light meal. There's also lazy pasta night.

For a while now though, we've been eating out more than we've been cooking at home. And then of course there's the occasional takeout/delivery. The older you get, the lazier you get.

[ColDayMan]

I don't agree. Some people/countries have a much more varied diet and cuisine than others. The reason why the French cuisine is renowned is not because of stuffy and expensive high-end "French" restaurants the way North Americans imagine it, the real reason is the EVERYDAY food cooked by most people.

In this respect, the best way to know what sort of food people cook, and whether or not they like elaborate food, is to step into a supermarket, and look around. Having lived in the three countries: French supermarkets beat easily the US and Mexican supermarkets in terms of food offering, variety and quality. This is because the French are much more into cooking elaborate stuff than the Americans, and I presume also the Mexicans if we judge them by their supermarkets.

The only area where Mexican supermarkets are superior to the French ones is for the fruits and vegetables, especially the tropical fruits. But for most everything else, there is simply no comparison.

I'm going to call this out and heavily disagree. With all my travels to France (which I adore and been countless times), French supermarkets are certainly not above US supermarkets. Your average Carrefour, Auchan, Intermarché, or Monoprix isn't anymore remarkable than your average Publix or Harris Teeter. And I say this as someone who was at a Pingo Doce yesterday in suburban Lisboa.

And you simply can't compare cooking average at-home French cuisine with Americans as sopas ej eludes to, the variety an American would cook, even regionally, cannot be quantified. Are you cooking Soul Food? Cajun? Creole? Tex-Mex? Cal-Mex? Hawaiian? Amish? Low-Country? Sonoran? Samoan? There's too much to judge the average American cooking at home versus someone in France, which also has variety but not nearly the geographic variety of America.

[AviationGuy]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

I assumed you didn't know that. That's why I posted it.

"Mexican food" does not automatically equal Tex-Mex in the US.

Maybe it does in a lot of places, but not everywhere.

Although Tex-Mex is often called Mexican food in the U.S., and although many of us love it, there's also a lot of interior Mex in the U.S.. Large Texas cities have plenty of offerings of interior Mex. Frequently, the restaurants that serve interior Mex also have Tex-Mex on the menu. In particular, I love the seafood and poultry of interior Mex, but crave tacos and enchiladas from the Tex-Mex menus.