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Old Posted Jun 1, 2026, 12:51 PM
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Ever wonder how an O-Train actually enters service each day? In this video, we take a look at how trains are launched from Albion Yard onto Line 2 & 4. There’s a lot more going on than you might expect.

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Old Posted Jun 5, 2026, 4:23 PM
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O-Train lines 2 and 4 to shut for maintenance
OC Transpo's new GM says the shutdown of Line 2 and the Line 4 spur to the airport will allow "proactive maintenance activities."

By Staff Reporter, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 05, 2026 | Last updated 56 minutes ago


Two O-Train lines will be closed next weekend for maintenance work, OC Transpo’s new general manager Rick Leary announced Friday.

Line 2, which runs between Bayview and Limebank stations, as well as the Line 4 spur connecting South Keys station with the airport, will be shut June 13-14 and replaced by bus service along the north-south route.

In a social media release, Leary said the downtime will allow “proactive maintenance activities.”

“(Several) maintenance activities have been coordinated to occur over the weekend, including an end-to-end track inspection which requires a full line closure,” Leary said.

R2 bus service will operate between Bayview and Limebank stations every 12 minutes. Route 105 service will replace Line 4, with service every 15 minutes.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/o-trains-to-shut-for-maintenance
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2026, 8:26 PM
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I wonder if someone at OC Transpo just looked at the new Key Performance Indicators Webpage (https://www.octranspo.com/en/about-us/transparency/kpis) and noticed that Lines 2 & 4 are actually LESS RELIABLE than Line 1 – based on the percentage of scheduled service provided. That should never be the case for trains that are much more reliable than the Line 1 trains have proven to be. Getting the tracks in shape, it seems that they just realized, is important for actually running those reliable trains

I am hoping that Mr. Leary is also looking to see what needs to be changes with the Line 2 tracks to actually run 8-minute service. Not that I think that they need to go that far, but it might enable them to run 10-minute service reliably. (Having the capability to run faster than 10-minutes service would give them some needed slack to run a RELIABLE 10-minute service.)
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2026, 2:38 AM
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I wonder if someone at OC Transpo just looked at the new Key Performance Indicators Webpage (https://www.octranspo.com/en/about-us/transparency/kpis) and noticed that Lines 2 & 4 are actually LESS RELIABLE than Line 1 – based on the percentage of scheduled service provided. That should never be the case for trains that are much more reliable than the Line 1 trains have proven to be. Getting the tracks in shape, it seems that they just realized, is important for actually running those reliable trains

I am hoping that Mr. Leary is also looking to see what needs to be changes with the Line 2 tracks to actually run 8-minute service. Not that I think that they need to go that far, but it might enable them to run 10-minute service reliably. (Having the capability to run faster than 10-minutes service would give them some needed slack to run a RELIABLE 10-minute service.)
Most of the issues on Line 2 have been related to a few specific switches which will hopefully get resolved this summer.

The TMP identifies a project to upgrade Line 2 to 10-minute headways: this requires twinning the Walkley underpass and Walkley station and buying more trains; the estimated cost is $80 million. https://engage.ottawa.ca/11511/widgets/45934/documents/150357
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2026, 5:53 PM
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Thanks for the link. I had read it before, but forgot about that detail. Probably because I was not impressed by the ‘plan’. It seems to be just further whittling away at what was Council Approved more than a decade ago. The arbitrary limits placed on tax levels have made so much ‘unaffordable’ – and flagged other elements as only getting done IF upper levels of government throw in the majority (or all) of the money – drive me to distraction.

One of the big problems with just removing a bunch of work from a ‘plan’ is that it creates, or moves around, bottle-necks, and generates poor connections. When segments are dropped (or postponed until someone else pays for them), it affects the entire system. Doing that should be generating entirely new options that should have been added. An example is the removal of the Line 1 in-fil station at Gloucester HS. What will take its place? I’m not seeing any increase in Transit Priority for the additional buses that will be needed.

This city has gotten so lax about actually PLANNING transportation infrastructure if should be called before the Province for dereliction of duty.

But, I’m ranting. Returning to the issue of getting Line 2 to run more reliably, they should be looking at a LOT of different options. For instance; with the train now running to Riverside South, is the South-east Transitway still required, or could the O-Train be moved over to take advantage of the existing, wide, grade-separated run to Billings Bridge? (Leading to a Bank Street Subway, of course.) That might remove the need for that Walkley overpass modification. And most of the work could be done without affecting the running of Line 2/4.

Conditions change, and simply deferring parts of a more-than-10-year-old plan is not really PLANNING. An example is the DND Carling Campus. Line 1 was ‘planned’ to go to Algonquin College – since that is what the Transitway did, so minimal ‘planning’ needed. There was vague talk of running a Transitway – to be convertible to trains – along the 417 to Kanata, but the buses were doing fine on the highway. In 2010, when the Government of Canada took over the old Nortel campus, there was talk of increasing the number of employees from about 5,000 to 10,000-12,500. Tunney’s Pasture Campus only has about 12,000 Federal employees, and it was considered to be essential to connect to it. Potentially, DND’s Carling Campus meant that there could be more ridership on a line going west than one going to the college. In typical City of Ottawa fashion, it simply dusted off a decades-old Transitway concept to ‘plan’ a Line 3 along the 417. However, again, in typical Ottawa fashion, the ‘plan’ was whittled down to one that serves no-one well. This is NOT PLANNING, in my view.

My take on that west-end issue? Lincoln Fields Station should have been a TRANSFER STATION between Line 1 and Line 3. With Line 1 running from Trim to Algonquin, and Line 3 only running from Lincoln Fields, west to Moodie, north to DND, west along Carling to a station near Station Road, in Kanata-North. (Station Station would be a transfer point with the March Transitway that runs in bus lanes north on March and south along Eagleson, Terry Fox, Old Richmond, beside Fallowfield Village, and east on Strandherd to Marketplace Station, and potentially east from there.) From Station Station, Line 3 would run south through the golf-course land (which is another change that should have affected the City’s latest ‘plans’) to Terry Fox. (Potentially, there could also be a Line 5 running from Lincoln Fields, and south-west from Moodie to Kanata-South/Stittsville.)

BOTH, Line 1 and Line 3 should be running at 5-minute frequency, or better, all day (05:00-20:00). A DND worker from Orleans would have a single, fast, transfer between trains.

A lot has changed since 2012. Just removing pieces of that old plan, because they are no longer considered affordable, is not enough. The parts need to be evaluated to see if they are still relevant, and whether new ideas should be added, with reference to removals of planned components, or city changes and predicted future changes. That re-evaluation is not something that has been evident in the City’s Transportation Master Plan for many years.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2026, 7:16 PM
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Most of the issues on Line 2 have been related to a few specific switches which will hopefully get resolved this summer.

The TMP identifies a project to upgrade Line 2 to 10-minute headways: this requires twinning the Walkley underpass and Walkley station and buying more trains; the estimated cost is $80 million. https://engage.ottawa.ca/11511/widgets/45934/documents/150357
I no longer believe this will deliver the improved frequency specified. You would think that the improvement in speed will also not require additional trains, but I think the improvement in speed will be underwhelming or none at all.

Regarding the linked document, it should be destined for the dustbin. The first steps towards the other proposed projects mentioned have been such a failure, that the city cannot finance much of anything new.

What should be alarming is the number of car trips rising from 1.3M to 1.9M and that assumes the successful completion of a number of transit projects. Without those, car trips will rise to 2M++ on road infrastructure that will not be able to handle it. We already see the increased congestion every day just 4 years from the starting date.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2026, 9:53 PM
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Trains running again on Line 4 after latest weekend staffing shortage
Airport line was shut down for several hours Saturday

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Posted: Jun 20, 2026 3:04 PM EDT | Last Updated: 1 hour ago


Trains are running again on O-Train Line 4 to the Ottawa airport after being halted Saturday because of another staffing shortage.

It was the second staffing-related shutdown of Line 4 in just over a month, with service also grinding to a halt on the weekend of May 16.

OC Transpo announced in a social media post late Saturday morning that service on the spur line from South Keys station had been halted, with the route 105 bus running in its place.

Trains were offline for several hours. Shortly before 4 p.m., OC Transpo said regular service had been restored.

On Friday, OC Transpo general manager Rick Leary announced there would be reduced weekend frequency on Line 4 this summer, with trains running every 24 minutes instead of every 12.

That change — part of a plan to address staffing and maintenance issues on the transit network — would go into effect next Sunday and run until Aug. 28, Leary said.

Line 4 was also shut down last weekend for maintenance.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tr...test-weekend-staffing-shortage-9.7243196
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2026, 12:34 AM
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O-Train line 4 will be reduced over the summer and possibly into the fall on weekends from every 12 minutes to every 24 minutes because of staffing shortages: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/o-train-l...c9241be75f0c68e814b5e15b78d6e4d8d34a8c4d

Bus route 105 is unaffected.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2026, 3:36 AM
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O-Train line 4 will be reduced over the summer and possibly into the fall on weekends from every 12 minutes to every 24 minutes because of staffing shortages: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/o-train-l...c9241be75f0c68e814b5e15b78d6e4d8d34a8c4d

Bus route 105 is unaffected.
I get they probably see lots of empty trains on that route but 24 mins makes it basically unusable. Even waiting up to 12 minutes to change is excessive when most are already on their second transfer.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2026, 11:47 AM
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I don’t think that reducing the frequency was the first choice of actions. However, in order to keep week-day frequency something had to give.

I believe that this is a staffing issue. I suspect that, previously, they had been using a lot of overtime to hide the problem, but the new GM realizes that that is not a sustainable plan. Yes, workers are probably willing to take extra hours, with elevated pay, but eventually that leads to burn-out – and the total loss of that worker.

As unfortunate as it is, I feel that this was the right call to protect the workers.

It would be interesting to see some graphs of rider numbers for Line 4: By hour and direction; by day of the week; and by week of the year.
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It would be interesting to see some graphs of rider numbers for Line 4: By hour and direction; by day of the week; and by week of the year.
It would be interestinger to see that data for all of OC Transpo's routes, actually.

But alas, they are secretive with their data, and complaining about it is pissing into the wind, and even the rest of the transit and open-data nerds in this town don't seem to be overly exercised about it.
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I don’t think that reducing the frequency was the first choice of actions. However, in order to keep week-day frequency something had to give.

I believe that this is a staffing issue. I suspect that, previously, they had been using a lot of overtime to hide the problem, but the new GM realizes that that is not a sustainable plan. Yes, workers are probably willing to take extra hours, with elevated pay, but eventually that leads to burn-out – and the total loss of that worker.

As unfortunate as it is, I feel that this was the right call to protect the workers.

It would be interesting to see some graphs of rider numbers for Line 4: By hour and direction; by day of the week; and by week of the year.
What is shocking is that they opened a line with inadequate staffing. How can this be? How does Line 1 Phase 2 open with this kind of staffing shortage?

It can also be a reflection of extremely low ridership, which was predictable since the airport extension was first announced.

This could also be a test and I can see more 24 minute service being added in the evening. But if 24 minute service is the long term plan, why did we build it? We can now have wait times at South Keys of up to 21 minutes when transferring between Line 2 and 4. And with wait times of 10 minutes at Bayview not unusual, it will take well over an hour to reach the airport from downtown. Who is going to use this? Line 4 is clearly also a money pit on operations. What a waste of our tax money.

Going back to 2006, there was a reason why the airport link was not prioritized. Lack of ridership potential often for people who are not local taxpayers.
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What is shocking is that they opened a line with inadequate staffing. How can this be? How does Line 1 Phase 2 open with this kind of staffing shortage?

It can also be a reflection of extremely low ridership, which was predictable since the airport extension was first announced.

This could also be a test and I can see more 24 minute service being added in the evening. But if 24 minute service is the long term plan, why did we build it? We can now have wait times at South Keys of up to 21 minutes when transferring between Line 2 and 4. And with wait times of 10 minutes at Bayview not unusual, it will take well over an hour to reach the airport from downtown. Who is going to use this? Line 4 is clearly also a money pit on operations. What a waste of our tax money.

Going back to 2006, there was a reason why the airport link was not prioritized. Lack of ridership potential often for people who are not local taxpayers.
I'd read a couple of months after opening that ridership was averaging about 1,000 passengers a day. In a roughly 17 hour operational day at 12 minute intervals, that's an average of about 12 passengers per trip.
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I've said this before..

I just dumped 5k on a whim for myself to go around Europe and meet a friend and screw around for a couple weeks. And that is me on a budget so to speak.

I'm not going to balk at the cost of an Uber coming back to Ottawa man. Jesus.

Last go around.. I went from Prague to Vilnius.. stayed for one last night because we planned poorly to start.. and then Vilnius/Warsaw/Toronto/Ottawa.

I've been in transit for like 48 hours at this point. Take that train and cram it.

Coming back from Thailand is like 30/36 hours door to door.

Ottawa just isn't a big enough and congested city for an Airport link that goes nowhere and then needs yet another connection.

UPX in Toronto worth every penny... Airport link in Bangkok worth every penny.. Line 4 is redundant at best, being a spur.

Trying to think of what other cities I used transit out of the airport. Being that I have to cross PLANET dividing oceans to go anywhere I am interested in, at that point I usually just want to hire a car unless the roads are congested beyond belief... aka Bangkok.

Rail link to Frankfurt from city center was good.
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I've said this before..

I just dumped 5k on a whim for myself to go around Europe and meet a friend and screw around for a couple weeks. And that is me on a budget so to speak.

I'm not going to balk at the cost of an Uber coming back to Ottawa man. Jesus.

Last go around.. I went from Prague to Vilnius.. stayed for one last night because we planned poorly to start.. and then Vilnius/Warsaw/Toronto/Ottawa.

I've been in transit for like 48 hours at this point. Take that train and cram it.

Coming back from Thailand is like 30/36 hours door to door.

Ottawa just isn't a big enough and congested city for an Airport link that goes nowhere and then needs yet another connection.

UPX in Toronto worth every penny... Airport link in Bangkok worth every penny.. Line 4 is redundant at best, being a spur.

Trying to think of what other cities I used transit out of the airport. Being that I have to cross PLANET dividing oceans to go anywhere I am interested in, at that point I usually just want to hire a car unless the roads are congested beyond belief... aka Bangkok.

Rail link to Frankfurt from city center was good.
Oslo had a great rail link, and the city isn't much different in size from Ottawa. Difference being Oslo being the principle city of Norway, without the competition from neighbouring Montreal and Toronto.

If you are going to build a rail link, build it well, and make it convenient. We did not.

Under the circumstances, we would have been better off with an express bus to downtown hotels. We had that and a Transitway for half the distance. All we needed was buses designed for the service with space for luggage. And it would have cost a whole lot less and without being an anchor on Ottawa taxpayers and OC Transpo that Line 4 was inevitably going to be.

UPX works great, 25 minutes from Pearson to downtown. I have used it. If I had to take bus to subway to another subway, as it was before, forget it or pay for an express bus downtown.

Why does Ottawa screw it all up. Regarding ridership, what percentage are airport workers? We know that Route 105 came about as result of the airport authority and complaints from airport workers. This says it all, when we had to bring back a bus.
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I agree with ponyboycurtis and lrt’s friend, having an ‘Airport Link’ – that I already have to transfer at least once to get to – is not ideal.

We flew into London, Eng., and took the Tube into Paddington, just so that my niece could say ‘Hello’ to ‘Paddington Bear, and see ‘The Man in the Clock’. Then back to Heathrow. Easy-peasy.
It was great having the Skytrain line right from the Vancouver Airport.
I landed in Hong Kong, with a (purposefully) long layover. The Airport Express train took me to and from walking distance of the sights I wanted to see.
The subway from Singapore Airport went to virtually under my mid-town hotel.
It was a one-block walk from my Sydney, Australia, hotel to the train that took me to the airport.
The Red Line in Dubai covers a great deal of the city before reaching the airport.
I could use Amsterdam as another example, but I think that you get my point (and ponyboycurtis’ point) that a – and I HATE this term – ‘World-Class City’ has great public transit from its airport to the main part of town. Heck, even Toronto has that – and they are implementing a plan to get another transit line to Pearson Airport.

There should be no Line 4. Line 2 should have tunneled under the runway so that the airport was a stop on the line going south – going south FROM DOWNTOWN.

A REAL transit plan is a plan of what is NEEDED and how to achieve it – not a ‘plan’ to do what is easiest, and at the cheapest price.
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I agree with ponyboycurtis and lrt’s friend, having an ‘Airport Link’ – that I already have to transfer at least once to get to – is not ideal.

We flew into London, Eng., and took the Tube into Paddington, just so that my niece could say ‘Hello’ to ‘Paddington Bear, and see ‘The Man in the Clock’. Then back to Heathrow. Easy-peasy.
It was great having the Skytrain line right from the Vancouver Airport.
I landed in Hong Kong, with a (purposefully) long layover. The Airport Express train took me to and from walking distance of the sights I wanted to see.
The subway from Singapore Airport went to virtually under my mid-town hotel.
It was a one-block walk from my Sydney, Australia, hotel to the train that took me to the airport.
The Red Line in Dubai covers a great deal of the city before reaching the airport.
I could use Amsterdam as another example, but I think that you get my point (and ponyboycurtis’ point) that a – and I HATE this term – ‘World-Class City’ has great public transit from its airport to the main part of town. Heck, even Toronto has that – and they are implementing a plan to get another transit line to Pearson Airport.

There should be no Line 4. Line 2 should have tunneled under the runway so that the airport was a stop on the line going south – going south FROM DOWNTOWN.

A REAL transit plan is a plan of what is NEEDED and how to achieve it – not a ‘plan’ to do what is easiest, and at the cheapest price.
We really lost our way when we tried to improve the 2006 plan. Broken, and slow trains that don't deliver the level of service that a capital city of a G7 country should have. The sad thing, can we ever fix it?
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We really lost our way when we tried to improve the 2006 plan. Broken, and slow trains that don't deliver the level of service that a capital city of a G7 country should have. The sad thing, can we ever fix it?
We can, or we can be cheap.

We keep going with "cheap".
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A bit late to the discussion about the airport spur, but I wanted to share an anecdote — I flew into Ottawa two weeks ago and wanted to take the bus home. Like everyone else, I exited at ground level and started walking down the pickup zone to the right, where I remember the bus being the last time I took it (admittedly years ago). Not there. I walked the other direction. Not there, either.

Then I realized it must be on the level above me. Ok, fine. So I go back inside and start looking for an elevator, then make my way upstairs. At this point the bus is arriving any moment. The entrance closest to the elevator is closed for construction, so I began walking toward the OC Transpo signage at the far end of the airport, figuring that the bus likely stops beside the train.

Wrong. I make it to the entrance to the LRT just in time to see my bus drive by on its way to the opposite end of the airport.

Fine, I thought, I'll hop on the train and meet up with my bus at Greenboro. Well, I forgot that the train only goes as far as South Keys, and when we arrived, there was no announcement that this was the last stop. The only indication that this was the end of the line was seeing the operator walking to the back of the train.


Sorry for the rambling rant, but my point is that public transit from the airport really is shockingly bad, and must be even worse for tourists who aren't familiar with our system.
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