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Old Posted Jul 25, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Wasn't there in fact a grand expansion plan for the St Laurent site, maybe 10 years ago? It may even be there in earlier pages of this thread, but I'm too lazy to go there and look for it.

Wasn't it supposed to spill over onto the other side of Coventry Road?
Sounds familiar but the retail market looked very different 10 years ago.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2024, 2:27 PM
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I wonder if from a financial perspective it is in limbo. It is making too much money to justify tearing it down but not enough money to justify significant improvements.
Don't have to tear it down. There's plenty of surface parking they can work with first. They could build towers attached the mall. They just need to make a master plan that maintains the mall in the middle of the development.

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Is there something about 30 stories being a "sweet spot" for construction efficiency and per unit costs? I don't think the number is intentional, there must be a financial/construction rationalization for this?
Yup, went up three floors from 27 over the last 5 years.

Truthfully, I really don't understand the economics of building towers, but I find it strange that Ottawa is the only major city where developers set their own limits. Every other city over a million and many of their suburbs easily go 40 to 60 with no reservations. What makes Ottawa special?

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Wasn't there in fact a grand expansion plan for the St Laurent site, maybe 10 years ago? It may even be there in earlier pages of this thread, but I'm too lazy to go there and look for it.

Wasn't it supposed to spill over onto the other side of Coventry Road?
As per Rocketphish, yes. I imagine Bayshore, Rideau and Les Promenades expansions killed St. Laurent's window of opportunity.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2024, 2:34 PM
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That's a great piece of land by Ottawa standards so I assume something big will happen there eventually. Probably more of a focus on residential, and even sacrificing or right-sizing some retail space like Les Galeries de Hull is going to be doing.
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2025, 2:42 AM
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'Revitalization' at St. Laurent mall will include new concept Sephora, H&M, Bikini Village

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July 24, 2025


Several big-name retailers will be involved in “a series of revitalization efforts, new store openings, and digital enhancements” being introduced at St. Laurent Shopping Centre starting next month. In early August, Sephora will launch a “new build” at the mall, according to a news release Thursday from property manager Morguard Corp. St. Laurent will also introduce a “first-to-Ottawa flagship concept” combining Bikini Village and La Vie en Rose into a renovated and integrated dual-storefront space. The opening of this concept is slated for August, according to the release. This fall, H&M will open a new large-format store offering both home and fashion collections, the release added. "As brands continue to invest in physical retail, we are proud to bring new concepts and elevated experiences to the community," said Amy Rozario, general manager of St. Laurent Shopping Centre, in the release. "This transformation goes beyond retail and reflects our broader strategy to create an energetic destination for the Ottawa community while offering a variety of experiences." To enhance the shopping experience, St. Laurent is expanding its digital presence with web features such as The ShopList, an AI-driven guided product discovery tool that enhances the way shoppers search for local products, along with the installation of large-format media screens throughout the property, the release said. A new screen at Entrance 1 will anchor the upgrades, offering promotional displays and community-focused content. "St. Laurent Centre has long played an important role in our portfolio, and we are pleased to see its ongoing growth and innovation," said John Ginis, Morguard’s vice-president, asset management, in the release. "As we continue to develop, own and manage a wide range of properties in Ottawa and across the country, these investments into enhancing the Centre will elevate it as a vibrant community hub and priority destination." St. Laurent was home to one of Ottawa’s handful of Hudson’s Bay stores, which closed earlier this year, leaving large holes in many malls across the country. Retail analyst Bruce Winder told OBJ Thursday that shopping malls are in an “innovate or die” mentality, trying to fight against online retail giants like Amazon and Shein.

“They have to bring in some brand names that customers are looking for. You can’t just have legacy storefronts,” Winder said.

While sought-after brands might bring in more customers, shopping malls should look toward more experience-based businesses to draw in the online shopping crowd, he added. “A lot of malls these days are adding more experiences, whether it’s entertainment, music, food, festivals or fashion shows. It’s not enough to just add storefronts. They need to add something to get people off their chair, because a lot of these stores, you can still buy online,” he said, adding there needs to be a stronger reason for shoppers to make the trip out to St. Laurent. The release stated that St. Laurent is investing in partnerships with Atlético Ottawa soccer team, Ottawa Festivals and other community organizations to “bring engaging programs and events to the Centre throughout the year.” Winder said the demographics most likely to continue to shop online include younger millennials and generation Z and that ways to interact with spaces on social media will help attract these consumers to shopping malls. “If you’re a small store, you have to offer either a service or a product you can’t get online. Young people like millennials and gen Z, they think online first. What makes them want to go into a store? (If) there’s Instagram or TikTok opportunities … You have to have some sort of unique items that they can take a picture of and post it to their friends,” he said. Winder said today’s shopping malls are not what they used to be.

“A lot of big legacy malls are having mixed-use … a lot of malls with these massive parking lots are saying, ‘Hey, maybe we can utilize some of this space and put in condos.’ Some are putting pickleball courts or car dealerships to bring people in. Malls have morphed into something unrecognizable from what they were 30 years ago.”

https://obj.ca/revitalization-st-laurent-mall-sephora-hm-bikini-village/
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Sport Chek moving into part of the old Sears. Urban Behaviour which occupied the entire first floor of Sears up until recently, has moved into the first floor of what used to be The Bay.

Also Uniqlo set to open in the mall in 2027.
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I don't understand how Y004A, the portion of the old Bay Sears not labelled as Sport Chek, can be 28,000 sf, when the Sport Chek side (Y004), which appears only slightly larger is listed as 45,000 sf. Maybe they've drawn the demising wall in the wrong place on this floorplan. The internal entrance to the Sport Chek from the mall also looks absurdly small. And I suppose that they'd have to hide the escalators, as they wouldn't serve any useful function in this arrangement.


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When I biked by yesterday, it looked like they were setting up to demo the west parking garage. That will really open up that side of the mall for SportCheck.
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SPORTCHEK is on 2 floors, so 45,000 SF total
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2026, 1:40 PM
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SPORTCHEK is on 2 floors, so 45,000 SF total
Oh? How would that work with a single one-way escalator?
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Oh? How would that work with a single one-way escalator?
Escalators can never be broken man.. they just become stairs.
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SPORTCHEK is on 2 floors, so 45,000 SF total
Does it actually show the store will be on two floors ? I’m not an expert but wouldn’t the 45,000 sq. Ft. Be just the ground floor ?
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Does it actually show the store will be on two floors ? I’m not an expert but wouldn’t the 45,000 sq. Ft. Be just the ground floor ?
That sounds like maybe half the space at best. Maybe they'll split the space vertically (split the space in two)?
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It seems like a weird chain: Indianapolis and Ottawa.

I would probably go once, but maybe it is the kind of thing that would have a cult following. Lots of 50 year old bureaucrats are early retiring this year.
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Sounds cool. I question their longevity though. A place like House of Targ does well because of the music/periogies and a loyal following.
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I don't understand how Y004A, the portion of the old Bay not labelled as Sport Chek, can be 28,000 sf, when the Sport Chek side (Y004), which appears only slightly larger is listed as 45,000 sf. Maybe they've drawn the demising wall in the wrong place on this floorplan. The internal entrance to the Sport Chek from the mall also looks absurdly small. And I suppose that they'd have to hide the escalators, as they wouldn't serve any useful function in this arrangement.

You mean Sears, not Bay?

But yeah, super confused by this.

1. How does the internal entrance work if it's half within the exit corridor?
2. Big space on the north side will have no indoor entrance (not unheard of, but not a fan).
3. As mentioned, it only has one escalator.

It's possible they just used the existing plan and divided it up without taking into consideration any renovations that are coming. That seems kind of lazy.

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When I biked by yesterday, it looked like they were setting up to demo the west parking garage. That will really open up that side of the mall for SportCheck.
Wow. I wondered if/when that would happen considering the top has been closed for years while they continued to allow cars to park on the ground level.

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Nice! Never heard of them, but this is something I want to see more of!
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You mean Sears, not Bay?
Oops... yes, I meant Sears! The other major mall anchor that no longer exists .
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That Y004A 28k would make a nice Marks Work Warehouse if they want to go all in on Canadian Tire assets.
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That Y004A 28k would make a nice Marks Work Warehouse if they want to go all in on Canadian Tire assets.
Not the worst idea, but it won’t work if they have to be a certain distance apart. It’s rather close to both the Trainyards and Innes locations.
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