Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[i-215]

Originally Posted by wrendog

3 year rebuild official for salt Palace. No renderings.

I know I'm the raincloud on this topic. But having no renderings screams bad vibes.

Since I left Utah, the state has gone from being "the best managed in the country" with lots of transparency and bipartisan cooperation, to one that I fear is about backroom deals and brazenly enriching the rich.

Demolishing to convention center should be a public process with lots of meetings, alternatives, public comment, etc. Not something that will be proclaimed to the public after the bulldozers are rolling. That's a bad way to build public stuff. Like 1960s Chicago bad. Especially when $1B of taxpayer money is on the table. (And a convention center!)

[TheGeographer]

We have a mayor who is lobbied heavily by real estate developers and her husband LaMalfa is involved with downtown development. All they care about are moving homeless camps around the west side of town to devalue property, then buying that property and building 5-10 story apartments that pencil out and make them and their lobbyists money. That’s all we’ve been getting lately. Good for infill, good for their pockets, but not exciting. Rim job on everything else. New hospital - rim job, old theater tower on main - rim job, sundial - rim job. Unless it’s a 5-10 story apartment it probably doesn’t happen is the pattern I’ve noticed. And SEG? Well Ryan Smith is married to the all mighty dollar and capitalism. He will develop whatever makes him the most money. If that’s a bunch of 5-20 story buildings, that is what he’ll do. Let’s hope a skyscraper or two pencil out for him. Otherwise he won’t build it. The convention center being shut down for 3 years will hurt the vibrancy and health of downtown. Let’s hope it’s worth tax payers dollars with zero public input. Seems to be the way of politics lately. Zero public input and build whatever you want. And zero accountability when things go wrong like the Main Street tower.

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by wrendog

lol wut

How did what I posted relate in anyway in your rambling pessimism? The rebuild of the CC is major development

Sorry, man. I, like others want to know where in the hell are the SEG renderings?!?!

[meman]

Ironweed, I hope to hell what your saying about the SEG being downsized is not true, although it would be so typical of Salt Lake if it is true. We just dont seem to be able to get our shit together when it comes to major projects in this city, It is very frustrating. What happened to all these big high-rise projects that were planned a few years ago? By the way, where did youy hear this about the SEG getting downsized?

[JTO]

Originally Posted by meman

Ironweed, I hope to hell what your saying about the SEG being downsized is not true, although it would be so typical of Salt Lake if it is true. We just dont seem to be able to get our shit together when it comes to major projects in this city, It is very frustrating. What happened to all these big high-rise projects that were planned a few years ago? By the way, where did youy hear this about the SEG getting downsized?

smells like satire, but if history tells us anything about projects downtown that could be closer to the end product than what we're hoping for

[mstar]

I understand why many of us are thinking this project will be a let down. We have seen it before on so many other major developments that get scaled back. I am hopeful this one will be different. The SEC is different to most major developments in that it has a billion dollars of tax money to help fund it. Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County and the state of Utah seem to be wanting this to take place. With another billion dollars to remodel the Salt Palace - this better be something significant to make downtown more engaging. But, who knows. We will see - hopefully soon.

[ThePriceWentUp]

I'll add that I've heard the renderings from SEG are definitely impressive. Only downsizing I've heard of is that the 300 W underpass is no longer happening. But honestly, I never thought an "elevated plaza" with 10 ft of elevation gain was the right move.

[nushiof]

Seems like installing telescopic bollards would be an easy solution here. Just block all vehicular traffic on 3rd West between South Temple and 100 S on nights with games/concerts/events at the Delta Center. Then you avoid the massive cost of a tunnel/bridge. But also promote pedestrian only traffic flowing from the DC to/from the sports and entertainment district.

[Snoogalator]

Originally Posted by nushiof

Seems like installing telescopic bollards would be an easy solution here. Just block all vehicular traffic on 3rd West between South Temple and 100 S on nights with games/concerts/events at the Delta Center. Then you avoid the massive cost of a tunnel/bridge. But also promote pedestrian only traffic flowing from the DC to/from the sports and entertainment district.

Hundred percent agree, just block or narrow it down to 2 lanes during game days.

also kind of a random piece of news but google just updated google earth so anything newer than late 2023 is now in 3d. (tons of 5 over 1's as well Astra and the Worthington.)

[taboubak]

Originally Posted by Snoogalator

Hundred percent agree, just block or narrow it down to 2 lanes during game days.

also kind of a random piece of news but google just updated google earth so anything newer than late 2023 is now in 3d. (tons of 5 over 1's as well Astra and the Worthington.)

This is actually awesome news haha

[i-215]

Originally Posted by ThePriceWentUp

the 300 W underpass is no longer happening. But honestly, I never thought an "elevated plaza" with 10 ft of elevation gain was the right move.

Finally, something I can be optimistic about!