The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by bingun

It has been sold. There was something in the most recent agenda about them removing a covenant so the sale could proceed.

Interesting. I wonder if it will be commercial or residential? Not sure I'd want an apartment next door to a McDonalds but who knows.

Wasn't someone on council talking about a potentialsecond access point to Millidge Ave here for Jean Coutu and McD's to ease the congestion getting in and out via University?

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

You missed the point.

You are the only one who have had multiple people on multiple occasions ask you to cool it because you were negatively impacting their experience.

No one is asking you to change your opinion, but similar to someone using their phone in a movie theatre, we are asking you to show respect for others in the forum and give it a rest.

Of course you can choose to act however you like, but you're respectfully being asked to change your behavior for the betterment of the community here.

There are a few posters on here who I find annoying too..... The relentlessly cheerful, rainbows and unicorn types who are always gushing about every little 3 story Spitfire apartment box or somebody opening yet another mall kiosk or fast food franchise. While some of those posters are irritating to me, I take the position "to each their own" and I just scroll on.

Is it really that difficult for you to do the same?

If you can't bring your self to do that there is always this option......https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/profile.php?do=ignorelist

[cdnguys]

[cdnguys]

[sailor734]

Is anyone else as impressed with that giant crawler crane as I am? From most angles it dwarfs the tower crane.

[DyAm00394]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Anyone know what’s being built to the right of Princess Auto at East Point?

Follow up on this. It was told that apparently a pretty good source who works for Debly Enterprises Ltd, (a local SJ company that specializes in heavy civil engineering), came forward and said that a pharmacy will be there. Question is which pharmacy?

Previous chatter from multiple sources said that they heard Swiss Chalet is moving to there. So is both going in that spot? or is it only a pharmacy that will be there and Swiss Chalet will actually be elsewhere at East Point? Swiss Chalet is for sure moving to East Point, confirmed by employees. Moving in August apparently, and will be a smaller location with no bar area and less seating.

Overall, it looks like two more new tenants will be opening at East Point soon.

[homebody]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

You missed the point.

You are the only one who have had multiple people on multiple occasions ask you to cool it because you were negatively impacting their experience.

No one is asking you to change your opinion, but similar to someone using their phone in a movie theatre, we are asking you to show respect for others in the forum and give it a rest.

Of course you can choose to act however you like, but you're respectfully being asked to change your behavior for the betterment of the community here.

Sailor= negative. If there was an ignore feature it would certainly be used by me. Sorry for being brutally honest. But when I see your name in a heading it’s almost guaranteed to be negative Yes there are others, but nowhere near the extent of Mr Sailor.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

From this far away, 99 King does seem to fill out the skyline quite nicely.

Just need some taller buildings than Brunswick Square to fill out the middle

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by homebody

Sailor= negative. If there was an ignore feature it would certainly be used by me. Sorry for being brutally honest. But when I see your name in a heading it’s almost guaranteed to be negative Yes there are others, but nowhere near the extent of Mr Sailor.

There is an ignore feature. Click on "User CP" far left in the top menu bar and then click on "Edit ignore list".

Hope this info helps and that you find it a positive post on my part.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

From this far away, 99 King does seem to fill out the skyline quite nicely.

Just need some taller buildings than Brunswick Square to fill out the middle

I expect the taller, eastern two Fundy Quay buildings will do that when looking from the Falls or the throughway approach to the Harbour Bridge. Especially if one or more turns out to be 20+ floors.

[DyAm00394]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

Follow up on this. It was told that apparently a pretty good source who works for Debly Enterprises Ltd, (a local SJ company that specializes in heavy civil engineering), came forward and said that a pharmacy will be there. Question is which pharmacy?

Previous chatter from multiple sources said that they heard Swiss Chalet is moving to there. So is both going in that spot? or is it only a pharmacy that will be there and Swiss Chalet will actually be elsewhere at East Point? Swiss Chalet is for sure moving to East Point, confirmed by employees. Moving in August apparently, and will be a smaller location with no bar area and less seating.

Overall, it looks like two more new tenants will be opening at East Point soon.

Now there is talk that apparently St-Huberts is taking over the current Swiss Chalet.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

Now there is talk that apparently St-Huberts is taking over the current Swiss Chalet.

Interesting. I seem to recall St. Huberts being here years ago but not lasting very long.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Is anyone else as impressed with that giant crawler crane as I am? From most angles it dwarfs the tower crane.

Yes and wonder if it will get even taller as apparently the new plant I heard is equivalent to 20 or 23 stories

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Interesting. I seem to recall St. Huberts being here years ago but not lasting very long.

Yes, on Hubert Ct (this is why we should never name streets after businesses lol). The concept was terrible - you order at counter, pick up utensils on side and sit and eat your meal at rather uncomfortable tables. I think people were expecting what it’s like in Moncton - a regular sit down restaurant. So didn’t last long at all. I can see the current Swiss chalet building being a good fit with some major renos. Reality is Swiss chalet is a favoured spot for seniors who are ok with a mediocre meal for a decent price, so I’ve never seen the bar utilized much except when it first opened. So might be a better fit for St Hubert’s

[cdnguys]

I see St Hubert has the same owner as Swiss Chalet - Recipes Unlimited

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Yes, on Hubert Ct (this is why we should never name streets after businesses lol). The concept was terrible - you order at counter, pick up utensils on side and sit and eat your meal at rather uncomfortable tables. I think people were expecting what it’s like in Moncton - a regular sit down restaurant. So didn’t last long at all. I can see the current Swiss chalet building being a good fit with some major renos. Reality is Swiss chalet is a favoured spot for seniors who are ok with a mediocre meal for a decent price, so I’ve never seen the bar utilized much except when it first opened. So might be a better fit for St Hubert’s

I tried that St Huberts when it first opened. As I recall I didn't care for it and only went the once. Now that you mention it I think it was the concept/setup I didn't like as much as the food.

Talk over on Facebook's Retail Talk and Share says the new Swiss Chalet will be smaller with no bar and less dine in area.....more focus on delivery and takeout.
Someone also suggested the St. Hubert would be a very different concept to what was here and failed some years ago.
Interestingly, several posters were rooting for something like Jack Astors or Kelseys to take the old Swiss Chalet location.

Someone else brought up the rumour of the Keg at Eastpoint but I'm sceptical the numbers would work in SJ. I know someone who tried pretty hard to get a Keg franchise some years ago but got turned down due to the city size and demographics.


From AI....

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Target Demographic: The brand targets residents aged 25–64 with an annual household income of +$50,000.
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[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by sailor734

I expect the taller, eastern two Fundy Quay buildings will do that when looking from the Falls or the throughway approach to the Harbour Bridge. Especially if one or more turns out to be 20+ floors.

They’ll fill in the middle a bit, but that’s not a very prominent location.



There’s far more potential to fill out the skyline with 10-20+ storey projects in the more prominent zones of the Central Peninsula (as illustrated on the topographical map above), including the infamous Waterloo Village, which is perhaps the single neighbourhood most in need of investment and gentrification in all of Atlantic Canada… and just happens to be home to NB’s housing minister himself.

10-15+ storey projects in the two orange/red shaded areas of the map would do more to fill out the skyline than projects nearer sea level.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

They’ll fill in the middle a bit, but that’s not a very prominent location.



There’s far more potential to fill out the skyline with 10-20+ storey projects in the more prominent zones of the Central Peninsula (as illustrated on the topographical map above), including the infamous Waterloo Village, which is perhaps the single neighbourhood most in need of investment and gentrification in all of Atlantic Canada… and just happens to be home to NB’s housing minister himself.

10-15+ storey projects in the two orange/red shaded areas of the map would do more to fill out the skyline than projects nearer sea level.

Interesting elevation map. I would have thought Kings Sq was about the highest point.

I'm a little surprised there wasn't a fort built somewhere between Princess /Leinster and Carmarthen/Wentworth back in the 1780's. I guess they figured Fort Howe would do.

[bingun]

I noticed when you drive in on the highway from the East Side and reach the Seely St overpass, you can't see 99 King at all. It seems like the cathedral is hiding it completely, which is a little disappointing. That is a common first view of the Saint John skyline for many.

[bingun]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

Follow up on this. It was told that apparently a pretty good source who works for Debly Enterprises Ltd, (a local SJ company that specializes in heavy civil engineering), came forward and said that a pharmacy will be there. Question is which pharmacy?

Previous chatter from multiple sources said that they heard Swiss Chalet is moving to there. So is both going in that spot? or is it only a pharmacy that will be there and Swiss Chalet will actually be elsewhere at East Point? Swiss Chalet is for sure moving to East Point, confirmed by employees. Moving in August apparently, and will be a smaller location with no bar area and less seating.

Overall, it looks like two more new tenants will be opening at East Point soon.

August is right around the corner, so it must be a vacant unit, surely? The construction next to Princess Auto would have to be swift for that to happen.

Is it possible to put it in the larger vacant unit next to PetSmart? I can't recall if there is a vacant unit near Indigo?

I am no expert in the pharmacy business, but there is already a Pharmacy at Sobeys, Costco, Walmart, Lawtons, Shoppers, and Pharmasave. Do we think someone could be moving? Obviously not the ones within larger stores, but could one of the other three consider it?