Coming Back Around
Your assessment is very fair.
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Originally Posted by laniroj
To say the energy is dead downtown would be an understatement. It's less than dead. Upper downtown - somehow even worse. LoDo still has energy but nothing like pre-covid. I admire these developers taking the risk down there and wish them well.
Personally, my outlook for Downtown is akin to the immediate aftermath of the savings and loan era where downtown was just empty but in some ways it's almost worse now than it was then. The suburban folks now seem to be avoiding downtown entirely whereas in the 80's they were still coming downtown for shows, plays, shopping, etc. I honestly don't know if Downtown will recover, ESPECIALLY so if River Mile takes off.
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Above I compared Seattle and Denver downtowns.
With respect to Denver we could slice it up into various pieces. But as I have often stated, downtown Denver is really rather compact. Seattle's downtown by comparison is much more spread around.
Seattle's downtown has about 71 million square feet of office space. Denver by comparison has nearly 30 million square feet of office space.
If Asher Luzzatto succeeds in converting his four towers into residential that's a big chunk of space that becomes enlivened by residents (as
wong pointed out). He's looking at 2030 for finishing just two of the towers so it will feel like a slow slog at times.
Upper downtown will continue to struggle for years even if there is slow improvement. Having the redevelopment of 16th Street finished is huge but there will be fits and starts with retail. Partly it's the nature of retail, especially restaurants.
Last item, I still wouldn't be surprised if a few office towers get demoed. That could provide fresh ground for more conventional luxury apartments.