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Old Posted Mar 27, 2026, 7:50 PM
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The Duncan site is in limbo due to market conditions and the CV caveat. The other Waterfront sliver site controlled by CV is cancelled as the proponent was tied to The Bend and the Duncan site. My editorial comment is the challenge was primarily the inflated pricing of the land and interference by government agencies controlling these properties. As the Vitafoam site is privately owned and financed, movement would move quickly if the when they say Go!

I’m more hopeful on this site than WF sliver site, Duncan or the St Regis…
hopefully it is something that becomes a gateway to the area
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2026, 9:02 PM
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That damn government preventing private industry form steamrolling every building for parking lots. *shakes fist*
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2026, 4:55 AM
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That damn government preventing private industry form steamrolling every building for parking lots. *shakes fist*
The government tore down the St Regis for a project that never came. Still waiting 10 years latter and they don’t even deal with the weeds…

Again the Caveat may be part of the problem. *finger wagging*

(Duncan is currently a parking lot, Waterfront Drive is currently parkland and St Regis is an unparked development site full of weeds).

Anyway just answered your query on the sites in question…

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Old Posted Mar 28, 2026, 2:34 PM
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The government tore down the St Regis for a project that never came. Still waiting 10 years latter and they don’t even deal with the weeds…

Again the Caveat may be part of the problem. *finger wagging*

(Duncan is currently a parking lot, Waterfront Drive is currently parkland and St Regis is an unparked development site full of weeds).

Anyway just answered your query on the sites in question…
There seem to be developers who are quite able to work with CV and follow their guidelines to get structures built that meet CV's goals of developing the downtown with an eye towards public as well as private benefits.

I wonder how many fly-by-night "developers" have come to CV with pretty renderings of their proposals and oodles of "guarantees" that yes, by jove we have the money and we'll definitely build this wonderful structure, only to turn around and say "oopsie, we don't actually have the "money", but we could build this scaled down thingie that doesn't meet CV's mandate"?

I believe the proper parlance is "bait & switch", and I would not be surprised to find out there is a cadre of "developers" who look at public funding for projects, lick their lips and start counting their profits, all due to their conviction that fooling the ignorant slobs at CV will be like taking candy from a baby.

My impression of CV is that their "caveat" is the core reason for their existence. I think any organization can encourage "development" by offing buckets of public money with no rules as to how it gets used. Fortunately, CV's mandate is to encourage development that actually benefits the downtown and the city overall, not just the pockets of developers.
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There seem to be developers who are quite able to work with CV and follow their guidelines to get structures built that meet CV's goals of developing the downtown with an eye towards public as well as private benefits.

I wonder how many fly-by-night "developers" have come to CV with pretty renderings of their proposals and oodles of "guarantees" that yes, by jove we have the money and we'll definitely build this wonderful structure, only to turn around and say "oopsie, we don't actually have the "money", but we could build this scaled down thingie that doesn't meet CV's mandate"?

I believe the proper parlance is "bait & switch", and I would not be surprised to find out there is a cadre of "developers" who look at public funding for projects, lick their lips and start counting their profits, all due to their conviction that fooling the ignorant slobs at CV will be like taking candy from a baby.

My impression of CV is that their "caveat" is the core reason for their existence. I think any organization can encourage "development" by offing buckets of public money with no rules as to how it gets used. Fortunately, CV's mandate is to encourage development that actually benefits the downtown and the city overall, not just the pockets of developers.
So how does one prevent this from happening?
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2026, 5:17 PM
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We were downtown yesterday, wanting to have lunch at a locally owned pub. Finding parking was (unsurprisingly) a hassle. We attempted, against my better judgement, to park in one of the myriad downtown parking lots. Every lot we entered was poorly maintained. Inadequate snow removal... numerous, massive potholes... we refused to pay to park at any of these places. We eventually found some street parking farther away. I'd rather walk than give money to these parasites.
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Also better to pay money to the city to park than to private lot owners any day
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2026, 5:37 PM
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other issue is most of these lots are reserved now so u cant even use them im finding
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Also better to pay money to the city to park than to private lot owners any day
That is my thinking as well. Another deterrent is all the different pay apps these places use. I refuse to download a bunch of different apps for different parking lots. The city uses Pay-By-Phone and that's the only app I use.
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That is my thinking as well. Another deterrent is all the different pay apps these places use. I refuse to download a bunch of different apps for different parking lots. The city uses Pay-By-Phone and that's the only app I use.
pay by what now?
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2026, 12:56 AM
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We were downtown yesterday, wanting to have lunch at a locally owned pub. Finding parking was (unsurprisingly) a hassle. We attempted, against my better judgement, to park in one of the myriad downtown parking lots. Every lot we entered was poorly maintained. Inadequate snow removal... numerous, massive potholes... we refused to pay to park at any of these places. We eventually found some street parking farther away. I'd rather walk than give money to these parasites.
Being in the parking game for 20 years, these parking management companies depend on the company that owns the property to facilitate maintenance costs. A majority of owners do not want to pay for repairs and just want a revenue stream coming in. Fencing, electrical and pavement repairs suffer where it presents to the parking experience.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2026, 1:56 AM
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We were downtown yesterday, wanting to have lunch at a locally owned pub. Finding parking was (unsurprisingly) a hassle. We attempted, against my better judgement, to park in one of the myriad downtown parking lots. Every lot we entered was poorly maintained. Inadequate snow removal... numerous, massive potholes... we refused to pay to park at any of these places. We eventually found some street parking farther away. I'd rather walk than give money to these parasites.
Unless you already have 2 outstanding parking management specific tickets, you don't need to pay at these lots if you really don't want to.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2026, 2:38 AM
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There seem to be developers who are quite able to work with CV and follow their guidelines to get structures built that meet CV's goals of developing the downtown with an eye towards public as well as private benefits.

I wonder how many fly-by-night "developers" have come to CV with pretty renderings of their proposals and oodles of "guarantees" that yes, by jove we have the money and we'll definitely build this wonderful structure, only to turn around and say "oopsie, we don't actually have the "money", but we could build this scaled down thingie that doesn't meet CV's mandate"?

I believe the proper parlance is "bait & switch", and I would not be surprised to find out there is a cadre of "developers" who look at public funding for projects, lick their lips and start counting their profits, all due to their conviction that fooling the ignorant slobs at CV will be like taking candy from a baby.

My impression of CV is that their "caveat" is the core reason for their existence. I think any organization can encourage "development" by offing buckets of public money with no rules as to how it gets used. Fortunately, CV's mandate is to encourage development that actually benefits the downtown and the city overall, not just the pockets of developers.

As the former chair of CV for 8 years, I can tell you that no developers bait and switch them. They do significant amounts of research and have a deep understanding of the development players and landscape. They always protect themselves with hard deadlines and buy back clauses.

They also don’t have buckets of money to give developers. The do sometimes administer TIF programs for the city. They have a bit of heritage money. But they don’t give money directly to developers as a rule.

There is always another side to the story. The Mayor at the time ordered CV to purchase the St. Regis and Carlton Hotels under pressure from True North after the Jets came back and the SHED District was being implemented. Both were significant hotbeds of crime. Closing them was an effort to improve the area. Obviously this is flawed because it just moves the problem and doesn’t fix it, but the immediate goal was to improve the area and to amalgamate land for True North Square.

The Carlton became part of that development but there is no stampede of developers for the St Regis site. One did come forward. They were not well regarded by CV so they created several backstops to the process. They forced the developer to do the remediation and demolition. They had a buy back clause with a penalty if the development didn’t happen within certain timelines. In the end CV made money on it and got the demo for free. The second scheme was similar. CV was careful with the developer because they knew the proposal was a long shot. It again failed but CV and the city were protected. Hopefully at some point a developer comes forward but CV can not be blamed for both buying the hotel and the lack of desirability of the site.

The waterfront sliver mentioned above is similar. If I recall correctly, a neighbouring property owner wanted the site for parking. CV said no.

The Duncan property is not being held up by government red tape as the poster likes to opine. He has always had a grudge against CV (and they against him) so don’t take his theories as truth. It is not a desirable site. The Calgary company that built The Bend had an option on it but after completing their first project, better understood the challenges of the area and walked away. CV doesn’t own it. They have tried to use their platform to help the private owner market and find private developers for it. The property owner set the price.

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Old Posted Mar 30, 2026, 2:43 PM
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As the former chair of CV for 8 years, I can tell you that no developers bait and switch them. They do significant amounts of research and have a deep understanding of the development players and landscape. They always protect themselves with hard deadlines and buy back clauses.

They also don’t have buckets of money to give developers. The do sometimes administer TIF programs for the city. They have a bit of heritage money. But they don’t give money directly to developers as a rule.

There is always another side to the story. The Mayor at the time ordered CV to purchase the St. Regis and Carlton Hotels under pressure from True North after the Jets came back and the SHED District was being implemented. Both were significant hotbeds of crime. Closing them was an effort to improve the area. Obviously this is flawed because it just moves the problem and doesn’t fix it, but the immediate goal was to improve the area and to amalgamate land for True North Square.

The Carlton became part of that development but there is no stampede of developers for the St Regis site. One did come forward. They were not well regarded by CV so they created several backstops to the process. They forced the developer to do the remediation and demolition. They had a buy back clause with a penalty if the development didn’t happen within certain timelines. In the end CV made money on it and got the demo for free. The second scheme was similar. CV was careful with the developer because they knew the proposal was a long shot. It again failed but CV and the city were protected. Hopefully at some point a developer comes forward but CV can not be blamed for both buying the hotel and the lack of desirability of the site.

The waterfront sliver mentioned above is similar. If I recall correctly, a neighbouring property owner wanted the site for parking. CV said no.

The Duncan property is not being held up by government red tape as the poster likes to opine. He has always had a grudge against CV (and they against him) so don’t take his theories as truth. It is not a desirable site. The Calgary company that built The Bend had an option on it but after completing their first project, better understood the challenges of the area and walked away. CV doesn’t own it. They have tried to use their platform to help the private owner market and find private developers for it. The property owner set the price.
Thanks for the info. One doesn't usually get this information through news releases. It's good to hear that CV has been mainly responsible with downtown development. Like you wrote, there are two sides to every story.

I'm also glad that, as you said, no developers bait & switch them, but my point was that there are developers who try to do that. I may not be using the textbook definition, but in this regard I used "bait & switch" as any attempt to promise one thing and deliver another. With the St. Regis site the developer may have honestly thought they had the money to deliver the project as promised, or they might have known they wouldn't ever have the money, I have no way of knowing. However, in my experience there is a segment of any profession that is corrupt and self-serving. I suppose I will often wonder if that is the case when a promising-looking project falls through.
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Unless you already have 2 outstanding parking management specific tickets, you don't need to pay at these lots if you really don't want to.
Im currently only banned from impark lol so I pay my daily rates at the other company, Platinum. I see them patrolling the lots regularly.
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Unless you already have 2 outstanding parking management specific tickets, you don't need to pay at these lots if you really don't want to.
Shhhh don't give out the secrets haha. People have been getting away with this for years. Noticed the more people did this, the more they patrolled/towed the lots
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Finding a fitting way to build in the Exchange District
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Monday, Apr. 13, 2026



Over the last few months, renowned Newfoundland musician Alan Doyle, best known as the lead singer of Great Big Sea, has been touring Canada. At each stop, he shared a “coffee walk” on social media, stepping off his tour bus to wander in search of a coffee while reflecting on places he has visited throughout his 40-year career criss-crossing the country.

His Winnipeg video went viral as he walked through the Exchange District and remarked, “I’m not an architecture buff, but the way I always describe it is this: if there are 100 good-looking buildings in Canada, 45 of them are in Winnipeg.”

This moment highlights how fortunate we are to have inherited the Exchange District.

Few cities have a large National Historic Site so deeply integrated into their downtown. Its preservation is due in part to Winnipeg’s historically slow growth, which limited redevelopment pressure. That’s beginning to change as new proposals emerge, and we must respond thoughtfully to ensure we pass future generations a place as valuable as the one entrusted to us.

This begins with renewed commitment to protecting the 150 heritage buildings within the National Historic Site, forming one of the most intact early 20th-century warehouse districts in North America. Their value lies not in individual landmarks, but in the collective whole, where every building contributes to a shared identity.

Protection requires policies that support reuse and restoration, along with enforcement to prevent demolition by neglect, like the beautiful, long-vacant Peck Building across from Burton Cummings Theatre, which is today surrounded by a fence to shield pedestrians as it crumbles. Protection also means ensuring developers deliver on promises, avoiding outcomes like at Albert and Arthur, beside Old Market Square, where a historic building was demolished with promises of redevelopment but is now a surface parking lot that fails to meet legal zoning and urban design requirements.

Preservation is vital, but the Exchange District’s future also significantly depends on what kind of new development fills the empty gaps, raising an important question: what should a new building in a heritage district look like?

While it may seem intuitive to want the new buildings to replicate historic styles, imitation most often weakens both old and new. Historic buildings matter because they are authentic, telling the story of their time and place. Copying them creates a false sense of history that can make a neighbourhood feel contrived rather than real.

It’s technically possible to truly replicate a historic building, but modern materials, construction methods, and building codes make it prohibitively expensive in most cases, especially for residential projects with tight budgets.

As a result, most attempts feel like half-hearted copies. Heritage buildings are more than a style. They reflect a complete system of design and construction that has largely disappeared.

Thick, load-bearing walls create depth, with windows set deep into the structure, casting strong shadows that convey a sense of mass. Brickwork is crafted with detail and texture, and ornamental elements like cornices are hand-carved from Tyndall stone.

Modern brick walls are only a few inches thick. Windows sit close to the surface casting narrow shadows. Materials and structural systems are lighter and largely mass-produced. Costly elements like stone ornament, deep cornices, and detailed masonry are often highly simplified or omitted.

Materials are frequently simulated, like brick or stone replaced with faux-masonry patterns painted on Styrofoam that looks artificial and ages poorly. As a result, historic shapes read as surface applied rather than integral. Buildings trying to be something they are not, create an artificial expression that diminishes the special neighbourhood character they aim to preserve.

If new Exchange District buildings are to be valued in the future, prioritizing high quality design matters far more than replicating historic imagery. A design that lacks thoughtfulness and creativity, whether modern or faux-historic, is harmful to the character of the neighbourhood, but a well-designed modern building can enrich and reinvigorate the area, introducing new energy while elevating the existing historic fabric.

A strong contemporary building can express new ideas while responding to context, working in harmony with surrounding heritage structures.

By studying and reinterpreting elements such as rhythm, proportion, massing, materiality, and street presence, new construction can complement the old without imitating it. This approach creates visual continuity with clarity and honesty. When handled successfully, the contrast of a new building does not compete but instead frames and highlights historic buildings, making their craftsmanship, weight, and texture more prominent.

An important example of new construction that fits well within the Exchange District is 127 Bannatyne, a ten-storey mixed-use building designed by AtLRG and developed by Concord Projects and Alston Properties.

Built on a former parking lot, it completes the historic street wall with a modern, textured masonry podium that respects the massing and proportions of its neighbours. Above, a tower clad in lighter materials rises and visually recedes, allowing the building to read as a lower structure anchored to the historic context.

At street level, a transparent and playfully articulated ground floor creates visual interest for pedestrians, with retail spaces that will soon house two restaurants, adding activity and life to the sidewalk. Through its thoughtful, contextual design, the building sits comfortably into its historic streetscape, elevating its neighbours, while expressing a clearly contemporary identity.

Its success offers a strong precedent for future development in the area.

The Exchange District is not just a collection of old buildings, but a living treasure that demands both protection and thoughtful evolution. With stewardship that prioritizes authenticity, and confidently demands high quality modern design, we can ensure that new development strengthens rather than diminishes what makes the area special.

If we are deliberate in our choices today, we can pass on a dynamic neighbourhood of complementary buildings, both modern and historic, all high-quality design, that future generations, and their touring musicians, will love and value even more deeply than we do today.
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The Ukrainian owned and operated Sho Coffee & Bar at 290 William Ave will be expanding into the space next door, presumably in the resurrected Saddlery Building at 284 William Avenue.

The owners also operate SOHO kitchen + wine in the former Chosabi space at 100 King St. it opened in September 2025.





















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A new rooftop patio is always welcome. Soho has been consistent in the Exchange so far. I hope this goes well for them!
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that will be a prime spot when market lands is done.
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