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Old Posted Feb 11, 2026, 6:41 PM
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Because French law doesn't view Martinique any differently than it does Brittany or Normandy. Nor does American law differentiate between Connecticut and Hawaii, despite Connecticut having been a state for 237 years, so far, while Hawaii has only been one for 66 years.

And DC residents do vote for POTUS.
From a legal and political point of view, you're right. Those five territories are France.

But that's not the only dimension we can see this. From a historical, socioeconomics Crawford has a point: Guadeloupe, Martinique were French colonies for over three centuries whereas they "became France" only in 1947 and only as a desperate political attempt by the French to hold to their empire. They've developed as very different societies from Metropolitan France.

Hawaii was completely overwhelmed by the US, be it due their planters and massive military presence making the natives a small minority. Hawaii socioeconomics is above national average and it's a very functional economy. That's not the case of the French overseas departments which have a very different culture, very distinct social problems and are completely dependent on the central government to keep running.
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